2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumANY election process which reverses legitimate votes is anti-democratic and wrong
...that is all.

Alan Kestrel @AlanKestrel750 2h2 hours ago
Even after Clark County Dem Convention, Ralston is reporting a virtual Clinton lead in NV. https://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/sanders-likely-flips-two-delegates-after-dominating-clark-convention

berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)And Clinton did her fair share of cheating during it.
Vinca
(54,340 posts)The delegates who were elected yesterday have nowhere near the influence of the super delegates.
We're complaining about a legitimate pothole that needs to be fixed; I get that. But meanwhile the overpass has collapsed and people are trapped under it.
Like most of Hillary's vocal fans, their only principle is 'what benefits Hillary most at this moment?'.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)His vote essentially cancels out the votes of everyone he represents. Would you agree that he has not only reversed legitimate votes, but in fact reversed all of them?
bigtree
(94,672 posts)...and historically and otherwise, those votes always go to the person with the most delegates.
So, no, I don't agree they cancel out anything, at least they haven't and don't really have a chance in hell of succeeding if they intend to.
Hell, in 2008, even Bill Clinton cast his SD vote for Obama.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)But I can't help but to think you are being somewhat selective. At this point I can comfortably say that the whole system is revealing it's self as largely anti-democratic. The moves being made during this cycle shows how easily the rules can be manipulated to better suit one side.
I want to make sure that everyone gets a chance to make a "legitimate vote" and to also make sure that it's counted once it's cast.
That said, what happened in Nevada can't be blamed on Bernie and his supporters.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)bigtree
(94,672 posts)...I can only remember them voting en masse for the candidate with the most delegates.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)If the same Sanders supporters who are cheering what happened in Nevada....cry at the DNC if the super delegates hand the nomination to Clinton?
Rules are rules, right?
HughLefty1
(231 posts)Now the HRC supporters got a little taste of what we have been going against this entire election cycle. It's undemocratic. This is not what the founding fathers were thinking when they set up the rules for our nation.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)DanTex
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