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Gone "vetting" Some one has. BS and his investments (Original Post) Jitter65 Apr 2016 OP
Aren't those funds your 401k can invest in? revbones Apr 2016 #1
Money in politics is wrong what does investing have to do with politics? Joob Apr 2016 #2
That was my first thought as well. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #3
He claims that WS and industries are evil, thus putting his money in them synergie Apr 2016 #9
That's kind of stupid isn't it? revbones Apr 2016 #15
great indictment against 401ks ibegurpard Apr 2016 #4
spot on! Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #23
Yeah, the socialist is the corrupt one when it comes to corporate money. killbotfactory Apr 2016 #5
Oh noes... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #6
. merrily Apr 2016 #11
Way to miss the point. The point is, Wall Street has not invested in Sanders and expects no return merrily Apr 2016 #7
LOL Cal Carpenter Apr 2016 #8
Except he is a Democratic Socialist, not a socialist. merrily Apr 2016 #16
He said he is against the culture of fraud on Wall Street. Subprime mortgages and Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #10
Jesus WTF?? beedle Apr 2016 #12
Snake-Oil Sanders, at it again! CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #13
It really is infuriating at this stage of the primary season you have NO CLUE about Bernie & WS jillan Apr 2016 #14
Horrible: He buys stuff from corporations too. GeorgeGist Apr 2016 #17
Thankie for the info! Lucinda Apr 2016 #18
Bernie the hypocrite. Complained about trade deals then bought socks made in China. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #19
Wow - and Clinton feels sorry for Bernie supporters??? jmg257 Apr 2016 #20
LOL. OMG, BERNIE HAS A 401K!!!!!!!! mhatrw Apr 2016 #21
Lame n/t tralala Apr 2016 #22
gone vetting, and this is all they found Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #24
 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
1. Aren't those funds your 401k can invest in?
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 02:08 PM
Apr 2016

Maybe I'm wrong, but this seems a little ridiculous.

He's never claimed investing was wrong. Just robbing investors...

Joob

(1,065 posts)
2. Money in politics is wrong what does investing have to do with politics?
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 02:12 PM
Apr 2016

What? Are the banks and corporations going to have to do what Bernie Sanders says because he gave THEM money?
lol oooh nooo.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
9. He claims that WS and industries are evil, thus putting his money in them
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 02:19 PM
Apr 2016

is a bit hypocritical. And yes, his positions and his attacks on these points are ridiculous, but those are his chosen positions, they just don't match what he actually does, when it comes to investment and donations. It's the problematic sides of declaring one's purity and abusing others for ridiculous reasons.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
15. That's kind of stupid isn't it?
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 02:45 PM
Apr 2016

He's never said there shouldn't be investments. Trying to twist things around so far is a bit ridiculous.

ibegurpard

(17,081 posts)
4. great indictment against 401ks
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 02:13 PM
Apr 2016

Turning Americans against pensions was one of the greatest scams the financial industry pulled in the 80s and 90s

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
6. Oh noes...
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 02:16 PM
Apr 2016

Is this another 'kitchen sink' attempt by HRS supporters to try to make the meme Bernie's anti capitalism?

When has Bernie ever stated he's against capitalism?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. Way to miss the point. The point is, Wall Street has not invested in Sanders and expects no return
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 02:16 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Mon Apr 4, 2016, 02:55 PM - Edit history (1)

from him on its investment.

Sanders put small amounts of money in publicly-traded stocks and expects a return on his investment, just like millions of other Americans, pension funds, etc.

The false equivalency you are attempting seems pathetic, desperate and completely lacking in an understanding of what the issue is.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
8. LOL
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 02:18 PM
Apr 2016

Yeah, I'm sure he would be more respected if he just buried any retirement plan in cash in his backyard.

Socialism is an economic system, not a lifestyle choice.

FFS.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
16. Except he is a Democratic Socialist, not a socialist.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 03:08 PM
Apr 2016

Democratic Socialists believe in working within capitalism and within the Democratic Party.

Nanjeanne

(6,588 posts)
10. He said he is against the culture of fraud on Wall Street. Subprime mortgages and
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 02:20 PM
Apr 2016

dirivatives and speculation.

Read this 2014 article showing how when wages increased significantly on Wall Street - growth in the economy decreased significantly.

Between WWII and 1980, the wages of financial workers were the same as those who worked in non-financial industries. Then the two lines split apart with Wall Street extracting an enormous premium. Do the financiers deserve it? And how would we know if they do or don't? The answer should depend on how much value the financial sector, in fact, produces for our economy. Is there a correlation between the explosion in Wall Street incomes and economic growth?

Yes, there is, but it's negative. As Wall Street wages rise, economic growth slows down.

1950s (1950-1959): 4.17 percent
1960s (1960-1969): 4.44 percent
1970s (1970-1979): 3.26 percent
1980s (1980-1989): 3.05 percent
1990s (1990-1999): 3.2 percent
2000s (2000-2009): 1.82 percent


http://www.alternet.org/economy/american-economy-recover-we-need-fewer-people-working-wall-st-making-much-less-money

Why is it that people are so inclined to want to take things to extreme levels? Sanders says we need regulation on Wall Street because of the culture of fraud. Rather than discuss regulation and how and what - it's "OH NO. BERNIE WASN'T TO DESTROY WALL STREET AND HE THINKS PEOPLE WHO PUT MONEY INTO THEIR 401K MUTUAL FUND ARE BAD!!!!"
 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
12. Jesus WTF??
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 02:22 PM
Apr 2016

I saw this nonsense being posted by real dimwits on twitter. I was going to post it here as an example of the bullshit that some Clinton supporters will try to pull, but I thought to myself, "no, this is just too stupid, if I post that as a criticism of Hillary supporters they will ridicule me for bringing this kind of crap and claiming it's coming from Hillary supporters".

I seem my fears (and overestimation of the intelligence and integrity of Clinton supporters) were unfounded.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
14. It really is infuriating at this stage of the primary season you have NO CLUE about Bernie & WS
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 02:39 PM
Apr 2016


I used to be an elementary school teacher so let me try to explain it to you like you were in one of my classes...

Lesson #1: People who work often have a 401k which is retirement fund. It is a place to save money for when you are no longer working and have no income coming in. Most 401k plans are a combination of investments in stocks and bonds.

Lesson #2: There are people who work on Wall Street that want to make as much money as they possibly can. Sometimes they do that by investing in risky investments, investments that pay a higher return on the money but if it was a bad investment people can lose a lot of money.
Some of these people will give lots of money to people that work in Washington DC for our government. The reason they do that is to make sure these people who work in Washington DC do not interfere with what they are doing.
It is not good when people who work at Wall Street give money to people that work at Washington DC because the people in Washington DC will not be making sure that the people in Wall Street aren't doing anything bad that might cause the people who have 401ks to lose their savings accounts.

Are there any questions?

GeorgeGist

(25,570 posts)
17. Horrible: He buys stuff from corporations too.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 04:13 PM
Apr 2016

His whole 401k is worth barely more than the $675K Hillary made giving 3 secret speeches to Goldman Sachs.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
19. Bernie the hypocrite. Complained about trade deals then bought socks made in China.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 04:41 PM
Apr 2016

Which side is he on?

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
20. Wow - and Clinton feels sorry for Bernie supporters???
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 04:42 PM
Apr 2016

because "Sanders owns stock" or something.

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