2016 Postmortem
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http://garnetnews.com/2016/04/04/bernie-sanders-invested-wall-street/revbones
(3,660 posts)Maybe I'm wrong, but this seems a little ridiculous.
He's never claimed investing was wrong. Just robbing investors...
Joob
(1,065 posts)What? Are the banks and corporations going to have to do what Bernie Sanders says because he gave THEM money?
lol oooh nooo.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)synergie
(1,901 posts)is a bit hypocritical. And yes, his positions and his attacks on these points are ridiculous, but those are his chosen positions, they just don't match what he actually does, when it comes to investment and donations. It's the problematic sides of declaring one's purity and abusing others for ridiculous reasons.
revbones
(3,660 posts)He's never said there shouldn't be investments. Trying to twist things around so far is a bit ridiculous.
ibegurpard
(17,081 posts)Turning Americans against pensions was one of the greatest scams the financial industry pulled in the 80s and 90s
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)killbotfactory
(13,566 posts)really?
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)Is this another 'kitchen sink' attempt by HRS supporters to try to make the meme Bernie's anti capitalism?
When has Bernie ever stated he's against capitalism?
merrily
(45,251 posts)
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merrily
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from him on its investment.
Sanders put small amounts of money in publicly-traded stocks and expects a return on his investment, just like millions of other Americans, pension funds, etc.
The false equivalency you are attempting seems pathetic, desperate and completely lacking in an understanding of what the issue is.
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)Yeah, I'm sure he would be more respected if he just buried any retirement plan in cash in his backyard.
Socialism is an economic system, not a lifestyle choice.
FFS.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Democratic Socialists believe in working within capitalism and within the Democratic Party.
Nanjeanne
(6,588 posts)dirivatives and speculation.
Read this 2014 article showing how when wages increased significantly on Wall Street - growth in the economy decreased significantly.
Yes, there is, but it's negative. As Wall Street wages rise, economic growth slows down.
1950s (1950-1959): 4.17 percent
1960s (1960-1969): 4.44 percent
1970s (1970-1979): 3.26 percent
1980s (1980-1989): 3.05 percent
1990s (1990-1999): 3.2 percent
2000s (2000-2009): 1.82 percent
http://www.alternet.org/economy/american-economy-recover-we-need-fewer-people-working-wall-st-making-much-less-money
Why is it that people are so inclined to want to take things to extreme levels? Sanders says we need regulation on Wall Street because of the culture of fraud. Rather than discuss regulation and how and what - it's "OH NO. BERNIE WASN'T TO DESTROY WALL STREET AND HE THINKS PEOPLE WHO PUT MONEY INTO THEIR 401K MUTUAL FUND ARE BAD!!!!"
beedle
(1,235 posts)I saw this nonsense being posted by real dimwits on twitter. I was going to post it here as an example of the bullshit that some Clinton supporters will try to pull, but I thought to myself, "no, this is just too stupid, if I post that as a criticism of Hillary supporters they will ridicule me for bringing this kind of crap and claiming it's coming from Hillary supporters".
I seem my fears (and overestimation of the intelligence and integrity of Clinton supporters) were unfounded.
CalvinballPro
(1,019 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)I used to be an elementary school teacher so let me try to explain it to you like you were in one of my classes...
Lesson #1: People who work often have a 401k which is retirement fund. It is a place to save money for when you are no longer working and have no income coming in. Most 401k plans are a combination of investments in stocks and bonds.
Lesson #2: There are people who work on Wall Street that want to make as much money as they possibly can. Sometimes they do that by investing in risky investments, investments that pay a higher return on the money but if it was a bad investment people can lose a lot of money.
Some of these people will give lots of money to people that work in Washington DC for our government. The reason they do that is to make sure these people who work in Washington DC do not interfere with what they are doing.
It is not good when people who work at Wall Street give money to people that work at Washington DC because the people in Washington DC will not be making sure that the people in Wall Street aren't doing anything bad that might cause the people who have 401ks to lose their savings accounts.
Are there any questions?
GeorgeGist
(25,570 posts)His whole 401k is worth barely more than the $675K Hillary made giving 3 secret speeches to Goldman Sachs.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Which side is he on?
jmg257
(11,996 posts)because "Sanders owns stock" or something.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)tralala
(239 posts)Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)You are just so precious