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saturnsring

(1,832 posts)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:33 AM Apr 2016

Factchecker: 3 Pinocchios for Sanders over Clinton oil & gas donations

The Sanders campaign is exaggerating the contributions that Clinton has received from the oil and gas industry. In the context of her overall campaign, the contributions are hardly significant. It’s especially misleading to count all of the funds raised by lobbyists with multiple clients as money “given” by the fossil-fuel industry.

Three Pinocchios
http://americablog.com/2016/04/factchecker-3-pinocchios-sanders-clinton-oil-gas-donations.html
first he steals her data
then gripes about superdelegates
then tries to steal superdelegates
now just flat out lies about her

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Factchecker: 3 Pinocchios for Sanders over Clinton oil & gas donations (Original Post) saturnsring Apr 2016 OP
Oh yes, do focus on Pinocchios, while the biggest gold heist and money laundering ViseGrip Apr 2016 #1
That will NOT stand in the way of the rabid fans. Facts no longer matter. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #2
It is subjective. earthside Apr 2016 #3
Or as I like to say rock Apr 2016 #4
Oh, is that supposed to override the fact that Clinton is for war and fracking and djean111 Apr 2016 #5
Saying the word 'Pinocchio' is the latest Hillary meme AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #6
Whew-the lobbyists from FF industry are only a "very small percentage" of the total jmg257 Apr 2016 #7
Take 347 on this. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #8
 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
1. Oh yes, do focus on Pinocchios, while the biggest gold heist and money laundering
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:41 AM
Apr 2016

scheme has been revealed.

So far they have 600 American names. That's more than all of the house and senate. We know there are celebrities and anyone who has enough, but still doesn't want to pay their fair share.

I'll just bet, out of the 600, you won't find Bernie Sanders on this list.

But keep focusing on Pinocchios, while we have missed out on 32 trillion of taxable income, for many countries. Hillary is a part of all that is wrong here, making laws including loopholes for themselves.
Legal, yes, Integrity to lead? Hardly. Panama Papers are soooo much more.

But just keep posting about 'Pinocchios', it's just rich.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
2. That will NOT stand in the way of the rabid fans. Facts no longer matter.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:41 AM
Apr 2016

This is a death match for them -- win at all costs.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
3. It is subjective.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:04 PM
Apr 2016

It just goes to show you the world in which the Clinton's live that several million dollars is "hardly significant."

Her defenders have to take this stretch, too.

Kind of sad.

And, Americablog ... really.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
5. Oh, is that supposed to override the fact that Clinton is for war and fracking and
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:24 PM
Apr 2016

the TPP and cluster bombs and such? Is that supposed to override those things which will affect so many of us in very bad ways? That is supposed to convince me to support a Third Way Neocon hawk? Who has already said she is open to more abortion restrictions, and would just take away from some Social Security beneficiaries, to give to other Social Security beneficiaries, instead of raising the cap? Really?

ISSUES. So, no fucking way could I support Clinton, who, as far as I can tell, has a whole cargo container full of wooden noses.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
7. Whew-the lobbyists from FF industry are only a "very small percentage" of the total
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:57 PM
Apr 2016

from lobbyist bundlers.

"It’s especially misleading to count all of the funds raised by lobbyists with multiple clients as money “given” by the fossil-fuel industry....
The second problem the Washington Post factchecker had with Sanders’ claim is that the donations aren’t “significant” at all. They’re a very small percentage."

From Greenpeace:
"All told, the campaign to elect Hillary Clinton for president in 2016 has received more than $4.5 million from lobbyists, bundlers, and large donors connected the fossil fuel industry."

And that is argued to be only a "very small percentage" from lobbyists?!?...
Thanks - I feel SOO much better now!
:Sarcasm:


Anyway - why all the poutrage?

"Hillary Clinton told supporters that lobbyists should be exposed and publicly called out.
"Maybe use social media? Maybe make a concerted effort to really call these people out all the time, get some social pressure on them, get people to know their names," Clinton suggested,"

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
8. Take 347 on this.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:59 PM
Apr 2016

You'd think somebody would come up with a new pile of metabolic byproducts to throw out there by now.

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