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Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:54 AM Apr 2016

Think You're Not Biased Against Women Leaders? Take the Test



Biases, and the stereotypes on which they are based, are a powerful obstacle for women seeking leadership positions. Researchers have found that stereotypes about leadership are decidedly masculine. Although people are less likely to have explicit biases today than in the past, implicit or unconscious bias remains powerful.

Most people have some implicit bias about gender and gender roles. Even people who strongly value gender equity and would prefer to see more women in leadership positions may find that their implicit biases work against their intentions.

If asked, most of us would say that discrimination against women in the workplace is wrong and unacceptable. Unfortunately, research shows that treating women and men equally in hiring decisions, job evaluations, and leadership positions is more of an ideal than a reality. So if we agree that sex discrimination is wrong, why is it still happening? One answer is that many of us harbor unconscious biases that can affect our judgment, even though we may be unaware of them. Uncovering these unconscious, or implicit, biases can be the first step to eliminating them.

So how do we uncover them? AAUW has collaborated with Project Implicit and Harvard University researchers to create a test that looks at the mental associations we make between gender and a variety of concepts, many of which affect our beliefs about women in positions of leadership.



Take the test here:

http://www.aauw.org/article/implicit-association-test/



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Think You're Not Biased Against Women Leaders? Take the Test (Original Post) Haveadream Apr 2016 OP
I think H's problems have nothing to do with being a woman. nt artislife Apr 2016 #1
Likewise, her being the most qualified to be President is independent of her gender. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #9
Judgement vs Experience... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #35
Let's see: Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #52
Twist and spin. longship Apr 2016 #64
I didn't spin anything. I disagreed with her vote on the war. If that is your one and only issue... Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #70
Nope! That is not my only issue. longship Apr 2016 #75
Independent...shit it isn't even in the same room .. artislife Apr 2016 #116
She certainly has impressive qualifications in turning the middle east into a shithole jfern Apr 2016 #120
Correct. It was an oasis of peace and tranquility for 5000 years until she became Secy of State. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #122
Does saying "no, I do not want to take a test" make me biased against female leadership? n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #2
Yes n/t cosmicone Apr 2016 #25
. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #79
No. nt. sibelian Apr 2016 #46
It may show more that you BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #56
Were you among those begging Warren to run? daleanime Apr 2016 #3
Warren is not running. athena Apr 2016 #17
You're for Hillary.... daleanime Apr 2016 #37
Thread win! merrily Apr 2016 #27
I was! I guess I hate my gender! nt artislife Apr 2016 #117
You've posted this in the wrong forum--This is about the Democratic Primary election TheDormouse Apr 2016 #4
Can't do this on an iPhone but I'll do it later. Agschmid Apr 2016 #5
Great test. athena Apr 2016 #6
How in the hell does this test even work? B2G Apr 2016 #7
Damn it. Orsino Apr 2016 #8
Gender has no bearing in my choice Trajan Apr 2016 #10
Did you take the test? athena Apr 2016 #11
"Beat" even slight gender bias? Heavens, I hope not. merrily Apr 2016 #29
I'm proud of my belief that women make better leaders. athena Apr 2016 #36
That answer angrychair Apr 2016 #77
I believe I was accused of "sexism" (against men), not of "bias". athena Apr 2016 #83
First, putting "sexist" in quotation marks when my post did not use that word is dishonest. at best. merrily Apr 2016 #84
As a Sanders supporter, I got the opposite result. Chan790 Apr 2016 #81
Thank you for your thoughtful reply Haveadream Apr 2016 #95
I passed Madam Mossfern Apr 2016 #12
It said I was bias slightly, missed one in the beginning but they kept moving things around Joob Apr 2016 #13
interesting Locrian Apr 2016 #14
I was thinking the same thing Madam Mossfern Apr 2016 #18
The order didn't make any difference for me. athena Apr 2016 #19
Exactly, they set these things up all dumb... sibelian Apr 2016 #47
You really think they don't compensate for that? athena Apr 2016 #51
" Your data suggest a moderate association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader " Bad Thoughts Apr 2016 #15
I'm a sexist swine. HassleCat Apr 2016 #16
The results have nothing to do with the "e/i" test B2G Apr 2016 #20
Untrue. Wow. bettyellen Apr 2016 #43
Then explain how I took the test twice B2G Apr 2016 #44
It also measures the speed at which you answer. bettyellen Apr 2016 #50
Lying? B2G Apr 2016 #53
The methodology is explained on the site- has been used before to uncover unconscious bettyellen Apr 2016 #58
Did I say I was disappointed? B2G Apr 2016 #60
You were bothered by the results enough to attack the study- without any basis or knowledge. bettyellen Apr 2016 #67
"You really think that Harvard is lying about the study results to you?" Yes. Chan790 Apr 2016 #94
So, you think they are lying. I'm not surprised as GDP has become CT central. bettyellen Apr 2016 #102
No, I don't think they're lying. I actually caught them red-handed. n/t :) Chan790 Apr 2016 #103
Well that was interesting. I could feel the difficulty in associating women and leader compared to bettyellen Apr 2016 #21
Same Haveadream Apr 2016 #33
I know I went much slower on those, trying to get it "right". bettyellen Apr 2016 #40
Oh Gee I support women leaders! What a waste of my time. jillan Apr 2016 #22
Fun. More implicit association tests from Harvard: rachacha Apr 2016 #23
Kicked and highly recommended n/t cosmicone Apr 2016 #24
Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #26
I know for a fact I am biased again ONE woman leader. Autumn Apr 2016 #28
Then again, you've lived in your skin a significant amount of time, even if you are only 22. merrily Apr 2016 #31
Yes I am But have sadly enough neglected it for a few weeks. Autumn Apr 2016 #38
Oh, dear. My only point was that the head of the Elizabeth Warren Group has no merrily Apr 2016 #90
It's so obviously rigged. B2G Apr 2016 #34
Yeah, it was a complete waste of time to me. Autumn Apr 2016 #39
There is only one woman leader running for president. athena Apr 2016 #41
I supported her to the very end in 08 because I wanted to see a woman president in my lifetime. Autumn Apr 2016 #54
In that last video, athena Apr 2016 #61
You are seeing what you want to see. Bill clearly reached for her to kiss her Autumn Apr 2016 #71
What do you see Bill's hand doing in the video? athena Apr 2016 #72
What exactly is the point of the kissing video? bettyellen Apr 2016 #73
The point of the kissing video? I felt like posting it. Autumn Apr 2016 #80
So, it was a pointless personal jab. Got it. bettyellen Apr 2016 #85
"Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female." Shandris Apr 2016 #30
As if I would be perfectly happy supporting a MAN who was for war and fracking and the TPP djean111 Apr 2016 #32
result: "Your data suggest a slight association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader" Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #42
"Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female." Scuba Apr 2016 #45
My results: 'Your data suggest a strong association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader' whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #48
"Your data suggest a slight association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader" Tarc Apr 2016 #49
My results. BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #55
I see the delegation from tumblr has arrived in the comments section... VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #57
Still not a Hilary supporter. beedle Apr 2016 #59
The OP didn't mention Hillary, BTW LisaM Apr 2016 #62
Exactly Haveadream Apr 2016 #82
I read such an interesting statement on this the other day... LisaM Apr 2016 #89
What knee jerk reactions? The negative reactions toward Clinton are mostly the result of Zorra Apr 2016 #100
I think you are being a little disingenuous. LisaM Apr 2016 #104
Seriously? Every reasonably perceptive poster immediately, and intuitively, Zorra Apr 2016 #110
It was posted in GD_P, not in GD. You don't see any significance there? I do. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #106
Fascinating! Thank you for posting this. I enjoyed taking it. Glorfindel Apr 2016 #63
Often women are the worst- Its called Queen Bee Syndrome Baobab Apr 2016 #65
That's sexist. This is the kind of thinking that keeps women down. athena Apr 2016 #69
"Your data suggest a moderate association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader" redgreenandblue Apr 2016 #66
Well I associate with a woman as a leader but do not support Clinton dr60omg Apr 2016 #68
Hehee, took the test, and sounds like they are more confused than me nolabels Apr 2016 #74
"Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female." SMC22307 Apr 2016 #76
Suggests a moderate association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader. Xyzse Apr 2016 #78
According to the test, I strongly associate women with leadership. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2016 #86
Mine showed a strong association of male with supporter and female with leader. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #87
That's what I got too whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #98
I had an issue with the use of "Michael" as an exclusively male name. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #88
. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #91
"Your data suggest a strong association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader" bunnies Apr 2016 #92
"Your data suggest a slight association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader" ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #93
"Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female." Dem2 Apr 2016 #96
Sarah Palin is a woman. mmonk Apr 2016 #97
I am biased towards WOMEN as leaders. Avalux Apr 2016 #99
It says I associate females as leaders, men as supporters. bobbobbins01 Apr 2016 #101
The test is bogus. GeorgeGist Apr 2016 #105
Because the test first teaches your muscles to use the same key for Male and Leader. ieoeja Apr 2016 #107
It's not just about correct answers. auntpurl Apr 2016 #109
This test has flawed methodology. auntpurl Apr 2016 #108
Including you? whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #111
Including me what? auntpurl Apr 2016 #115
I'm against Hillary Clinton's policies and judgement. I wouldn't vote for Margaret Thatcher either. Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #112
Reported results thus far show 10 to 1 automatic preference for female leaders Haveadream Apr 2016 #113
"Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female." JackRiddler Apr 2016 #114
"Your data suggest a slight association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader" hereforthevoting Apr 2016 #118
Haveadream, do you have to take a test to prove you're biased against race or can you just admit it? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #119
My results: LWolf Apr 2016 #121
 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
35. Judgement vs Experience...
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:30 PM
Apr 2016

She has the most experience at making the worst choices.

Iraq War, Patriot Act, Libya, Syria, NAFTA, TPP, Keystone XL, Fracking, Panama Free Trade Deal, and I could go on and on.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
52. Let's see:
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:48 PM
Apr 2016

With Clinton:
Iraq: Disagree
Patriot Act: Disagree
Libya: Agree
Syria: Agree
NAFTA: Agree
TPP: Agree
Keystone XL: Agree (sort of -- the whole controversy over the pipeline was a sham)
Fracking: Agree (but I support it more than she does)

I could go on, but you get the picture. Bernie fans are under the assumption that they are the only ones who thought about the issues and made a decision.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
70. I didn't spin anything. I disagreed with her vote on the war. If that is your one and only issue...
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:14 PM
Apr 2016

... vote for the candidate who has just one issue in his arsenal.

longship

(40,416 posts)
75. Nope! That is not my only issue.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:26 PM
Apr 2016

However, the blowback from that particular vote sticks in ones throat.

That is why, if Hillary Clinton achieves the nomination my vote in November will be the most difficult of my life.

That, and her opposition to $15 minimum wage, and her support for Wall Street, and her support for the privatization of prisons, and, and, and. It goes on and on. There is no apparent end to Hillary's conservative policies.

I am an FDR Democrat. That means Hillary is not my gal. In fact, she is counter to everything I believe in. The only thing that saves her is that the GOP is even worse.

I don't think that is something one wants to hang their credibility on.

Hillary Clinton! Not as bad as Trump or Cruz!

No wonder she polls so badly with independents.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
122. Correct. It was an oasis of peace and tranquility for 5000 years until she became Secy of State.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:28 AM
Apr 2016

athena

(4,187 posts)
17. Warren is not running.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:12 PM
Apr 2016

If she were running, with Bernie running against her, I bet you would still be for Bernie. She's not as "pure" as Bernie claims he is. And sadly, most people seem to associate the words "pure", "principled", "integrity", "leadership" more with "male" than "female".

Not I. I actually seem to associate "leader" slightly more with "female." I'm also for Hillary. Coincidence? I think not!

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
37. You're for Hillary....
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:32 PM
Apr 2016

I'm not. There for I must be a sexist. Coincidence? I think not!

Nice that what I'm thinking doesn't even enter into the discussion, have a lovely day!

TheDormouse

(1,168 posts)
4. You've posted this in the wrong forum--This is about the Democratic Primary election
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:57 AM
Apr 2016

not about gender bias.

athena

(4,187 posts)
6. Great test.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:04 PM
Apr 2016

I got:
"Your data suggest a slight association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader"

No wonder I'm for Hillary!

athena

(4,187 posts)
11. Did you take the test?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:08 PM
Apr 2016

It would be interesting to see what Bernie supporters get. I, as a Hillary supporter, got a slight association of "Leader" with "Female" and "Supporter" with "Male". Can you beat that?

athena

(4,187 posts)
36. I'm proud of my belief that women make better leaders.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:31 PM
Apr 2016

It shows that decades of conditioning have not succeeded in brainwashing me.

By the way, your claim that being pro-woman is "sexist" shows how little you know about feminism and racism. You can't be "sexist" in favor of a discriminated-against minority, just as you can't be "racist" in favor of a discriminated-against racial group.

angrychair

(8,677 posts)
77. That answer
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:31 PM
Apr 2016

Shows you don't understand the terms.
Racial and gender bias is not specific to any skin color, sexual orientation, biological gender or national origin.
Bias is bias, regardless of who is doing it or why.

I do not need a test to tell me if I have a gender or racial bias as I know I do not. I know who I am as a person and how I view my spouse, sister, friends and colleagues.

So did we all have a gender bias when we voted for PBO in 2008? Were you screaming about gender bias in 2008? How about 2009? Or 2015?

I do not doubt your heart is in the right place and I believe we need to do more to ensure equality in education, pay and leadership positions for women and minority groups.
I do not believe you get there attempting to degenerate me or others as a person because I support Sanders and not Clinton. My decision to not support Clinton in the primary has nothing to do with her biological gender.
Thank you and I hope you continue to ensure that women have equal access to all services and opportunities.



athena

(4,187 posts)
83. I believe I was accused of "sexism" (against men), not of "bias".
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:42 PM
Apr 2016

As for your comments about not needing a test to determine whether you're biased against a group: just by virtue of living in a sexist, racist, and homophobic society, we are all a little sexist, racist, and homophobic, regardless of our gender, race, and sexual orientation. Even though I was relieved, and even delighted, by the results I got on the test, I would never declare that I am not sexist. At times, I notice sexist tendencies in myself and fight them. The most dangerous thing is to declare that one is not sexist, racist, or homophobic. As long as we are willing to question ourselves, we leave the door open to empathy and improvement.

I did not denigrate anyone as a person because they support Sanders. I do, however, observe a lot of sexism in the Bernie campaign, both in Bernie and among his supporters. That is not to say that every single Bernie supporter is sexist, but the sexism out there in the criticisms of Hillary is undeniable.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
84. First, putting "sexist" in quotation marks when my post did not use that word is dishonest. at best.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:42 PM
Apr 2016

Second, how dare you presume to instruct me about gender bias, especially when you have to dishonestly put the word "sexist" in quotation marks so to do."



Third, my post had nothing to do with racism. Why did your reply?

Fourth, if you are proud of your gender bias and challenge people to be even more biased than you, I can do nothing but be sad for you and anyone like you and use the ignore function.

Please try to do better.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
81. As a Sanders supporter, I got the opposite result.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:38 PM
Apr 2016

...which interests me because:

a.) I'm genderfluid. maab
b.) I'm accused almost daily of being a misandrist. (Which is pretty much factually true. I strongly dislike other biological males as a general rule. About 55% of my close friends are women, but about 80% of my acquaintances are women.)
c.) Have done best in my life with female supervisors.
d.) A strong base of my opposition to Clinton is that I think her economic positions make her terrible for the interests of women.
e.) Identify as a feminist.
f.) Come from a household where my mother is far-and-away the major breadwinner. (She's a weapons-systems engineer and the Exec. VP of a defense manufacturer; my stepfather is a grocer.)

(note that males hardly factor into my thinking across-the-board)

All in all, from a sociological standpoint, I find the results suspect...the use of color and the hand-switching probably had a larger impact on my results than my inherent biases. I had 5x as many errors in the second half of the test than the first half. I'm also highly left-hand dominant. If they ran the sections in the opposite order, my result almost certainly switches.

Joob

(1,065 posts)
13. It said I was bias slightly, missed one in the beginning but they kept moving things around
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:09 PM
Apr 2016

Of course towards the end They Put Male/Leader Female/Supporter, they should have done the opposite

Because, I got used to the game by the time it got there so my judgement was faster. This game IS bias. lol

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
14. interesting
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:09 PM
Apr 2016

I took the test (got even support m/f) - but I think the order of the tests can bias results (since it's a response test), unless they compensate for becoming familiar with the 'game'.

There should be a 'practice' example before you take it. And no, I don't want to take it again ....

Madam Mossfern

(2,340 posts)
18. I was thinking the same thing
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:12 PM
Apr 2016

When they switched up, I had to retrain my muscle memory.
Since it had male/leader as first, that's how one would respond well into the switch.

athena

(4,187 posts)
19. The order didn't make any difference for me.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:14 PM
Apr 2016

I got "male" with "leader" first and still got a slight preference for female leaders.

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
47. Exactly, they set these things up all dumb...
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:44 PM
Apr 2016

All you're really doing is getting better at the physical requirements of the test itself.

athena

(4,187 posts)
51. You really think they don't compensate for that?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:48 PM
Apr 2016

Given how easy it is to compensate for it, I would be amazed if they didn't even try.

Bad Thoughts

(2,514 posts)
15. " Your data suggest a moderate association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader "
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:09 PM
Apr 2016

Does that mean my choices for candidates are valid?

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
16. I'm a sexist swine.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:11 PM
Apr 2016

The test showed I had no gender preference, but I do not prefer Clinton over Sanders.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
20. The results have nothing to do with the "e/i" test
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:16 PM
Apr 2016

It's all in how you answer the other questions.

I took it twice providing different answers and got polar opposite results.

Lame.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
44. Then explain how I took the test twice
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:43 PM
Apr 2016

getting none of the i/e choices wrong, and got totally different results based on the multiple choice questions being answered differently.

The 2 questions I answered differently were sexual orientation (straight vs lesbian) and profession (nonprofit vs public sector).

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
50. It also measures the speed at which you answer.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:48 PM
Apr 2016

The demographic questions are just for their analysis apart from the results.
You really think that Harvard is lying about the study results to you? What the hell.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
53. Lying?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:51 PM
Apr 2016

Do you think everything that comes out of Harvard is without flaws or inherent bias?

Do YOU know the methodology they used to determine results? I would love to see it.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
58. The methodology is explained on the site- has been used before to uncover unconscious
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:58 PM
Apr 2016

bias against POC. They use the demographic breakdowns to study the results of the *test only* between different groups.
This is SOP for this kind of research.

Sorry your results disappointed you to the extent you that need to attack the researchers. It's eye opening for many.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
60. Did I say I was disappointed?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:00 PM
Apr 2016

No, I didn't.

It's pointless to discuss this with you since you obviously aren't willing to entertain an opinion different than your own.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
67. You were bothered by the results enough to attack the study- without any basis or knowledge.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:11 PM
Apr 2016

Interesting reaction.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
94. "You really think that Harvard is lying about the study results to you?" Yes.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:05 PM
Apr 2016
Are you aware of how often misdirection is used in the design of opt-in sociological studies to prevent participants from gaming the results or in order to measure something other than the stated intention of the study?

(Read about the Milgram experiment sometime...the participants were told that the purpose of the study was to measure negative-feedback as a learning tool ("Does receiving a shock when answering incorrectly encourage the shock recipient to retain information better in order to answer correctly in subsequent rounds of questioning?&quot ...in reality, what was being measured was the willingness of participants (the "Teacher" or shock-giver; all shock-recipients ("learners&quot were actors and no actual shocks were administered.) to engage in what they believe to be a lethal act because they were told to do it by an authority figure.)

Pretty often. Part of that is and has to be to conceal what is actually being measured and how the metric is being quantified, even after participation is finished so that participants cannot "give away" the methodology to future participants.

In this case, I don't have to think. After my previous response (where I supposed that switching the order of the sections and which attributes were assigned to which hand initially would flip the results), I pulled the code of the page curious to see what they had done to address that potential issue. The section order is arbitrary between two order-sets so they did address that...but there is no code or javascript in that page for measuring the response time of keystrokes. They're not measuring the speed of anything...they want you, as participant, to think they are so they can protect their study methodology from tampering or being gamed to produce the result desired by the participant.
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
102. So, you think they are lying. I'm not surprised as GDP has become CT central.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:27 PM
Apr 2016

And I have for thirty years seen people argue against any study that shows they have any bias at all.
So many perfect people, so many flawed studies, LOL.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
21. Well that was interesting. I could feel the difficulty in associating women and leader compared to
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:19 PM
Apr 2016

men and leader slowing me down. Did my best to overcome it, but could not completely.

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
33. Same
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:30 PM
Apr 2016

Interesting challenge, isn't it? The association is so strong it is not dissimilar to the famous Stroop Effect color test. Similar theoretical model.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroop_effect

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
40. I know I went much slower on those, trying to get it "right".
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:35 PM
Apr 2016

I don't think I fully saw how fully fucked up sexist many of the places I worked for were until I went to a place that had a load of women in management. It was the first time in my career women were actually listened to in meetings and not routinely disregarded or mocked. It was like night and day.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
26. Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:22 PM
Apr 2016



Thank you for contributing to the AAUW's research on the topic of gender and leadership.

Below is the interpretation of your AAUW Implicit Association Test (IAT) performance

Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female.


Here is a little more information about how the AAUW IAT assesses your performance and why the associations measured by the IAT matter.

If you are quicker to associate Leader-related terms with Male names with than with Female names, the test will indicate that you have an implicit association (bias) of men with leaders. Likewise, if you are quicker to associate Supporter-related terms with Female names, the test will indicate an implicit association (bias) of women with supporters.

Social psychologists use the word “prejudiced” to describe people who report and approve their own negative attitudes toward groups of people who are different from themselves. Yet, “prejudiced” does not describe most people who show a stronger implicit association with traditional stereotypical gender roles (e.g., Male with Leader or Female with Supporter). What the IAT shows is that most people have implicit or unconscious biases that do not reflect and may even contradict what they consciously believe. So although we would not characterize such people as prejudiced, it is important to know that implicit biases can predict behavior. Thus, it is critical to be aware that when we relax our conscious efforts to be egalitarian, our implicit biases can lead to prejudiced and discriminatory behavior.

If you would like to know more about AAUW or Project Implicit, please see the links below

Implicit Association Test Details * About Project Implicit * Implicit FAQs

For more information about the AAUW IAT, click here or see future AAUW publications on this topic at aauw.org. To get regular updates about how AAUW promotes the success of women and girls, follow us on Facebook or Twitter. You can support our work by joining AAUW as a member.

The study is now complete and you may close your browser at any time.

Autumn

(44,972 posts)
28. I know for a fact I am biased again ONE woman leader.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:26 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton. Because of Hillary Clinton. I find it strange that you get the wrong answer if you put a female name in the leader column and the same red X if you put a male in the supporter columns and vice versa as the test went on. I lost interest when I noticed that. I thinks it's a bullshit test and I wasted my time.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
31. Then again, you've lived in your skin a significant amount of time, even if you are only 22.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:30 PM
Apr 2016

(22 being the fake age I assign myself on the internet). Do you really need a test to tell you if you are biased against women?

BTW, are you still head host of the Warren Group?

Besides, it's not as though a fairly intelligent person cannot see where the questions are going and make the test come out however he or she wants it to come out.

Autumn

(44,972 posts)
38. Yes I am But have sadly enough neglected it for a few weeks.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:33 PM
Apr 2016

I know I am biased against one certain woman. Extremely biased.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
90. Oh, dear. My only point was that the head of the Elizabeth Warren Group has no
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:55 PM
Apr 2016

need to worry about whether she has a gender bias.

I was not even in the same universe as implying you need to work harder as host of the Warren Group! Anyway I'm guessing that most of the Warren Group trolls probably left her group to start trolling the Bernie group as soon as most of the members of the Warren Group started supporting Bernie for President. It's only if she challenged the PTB or seemed a threat to Hillary that they beserked.


If I'm right, there's probably very little to do in that group anyway.

athena

(4,187 posts)
41. There is only one woman leader running for president.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:35 PM
Apr 2016

There probably won't be another one in our lifetimes. And you're biased against her, despite her qualifications, despite her liberalism, and despite her decades of hard work to help minorities.

Here is an article supporting my claims in the previous sentence. If you bother to read the whole thing, you will see that liberals really have no reason to be against Hillary.
http://www.thenation.com/article/can-hillary-clinton-win-over-the-left/

Autumn

(44,972 posts)
54. I supported her to the very end in 08 because I wanted to see a woman president in my lifetime.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:51 PM
Apr 2016

What I thought was the proudest day in my life was when I caucused here in CO for her, now I realize I should have been on the other side of the room. But I am proud that the last caucus I will ever do was for Bernie Sanders.
I still do want to see a woman president in my lifetime, I just don't want Hillary Clinton anywhere near the White House.

Climate change and fossile fuels, one of the most important issues we face.



Would you trust her? I sure as hell don't, she flip flops on everything and don't even get me started on her recent Reagan AIDS/HIV history revisionism



Yeah Bill was a cad but this IMO shows that only the powerful that can assit her in her quest for the presidencyare important to her

athena

(4,187 posts)
61. In that last video,
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:03 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary is about to kiss Bill when he motions toward Obama, who is waiting. So she turns to Obama. The fact that this is being passed around as a "snub" just says people see what they want to see.

By the way, I was for Obama in 2008. Hillary is a much better candidate now than she was then. She has a lot more experience. Moreover, if we hadn't elected Obama then, we wouldn't have had a Black president in our lifetimes, just as we won't have a female president in our lifetimes if we don't elect her now.

Autumn

(44,972 posts)
71. You are seeing what you want to see. Bill clearly reached for her to kiss her
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:18 PM
Apr 2016

she turned and Bill's kiss hit the air by her head. I fear Hillary's experience and her her judgment were sadly lacking on Bush and Iraq and as SOS she pushed for regime change and turned Syria into a hell hole, just as Iraq became a hell hole.
I don't want Hillary as a president,
If she's the only chance for a woman president ever in my lifetime I'm happy to pass. Thanks to Obama we dodged a bullet in 08 and I'm not about to jump in front of one now.

You have a nice day

athena

(4,187 posts)
72. What do you see Bill's hand doing in the video?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:21 PM
Apr 2016

Do you not see it pointing towards President Obama? Do you not see her turn away almost reluctantly?

We do, indeed, see what we want to see. That includes you, not just me.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
73. What exactly is the point of the kissing video?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:22 PM
Apr 2016

This is as stupid as the shit with Bernie and his wife. Are we just piling on the stupid because someone else "did it first"?

Autumn

(44,972 posts)
80. The point of the kissing video? I felt like posting it.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:34 PM
Apr 2016
if you don't like it ignore the post and have a nice day.
 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
30. "Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female."
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:28 PM
Apr 2016

Well duh?

It's almost like being raised by a bunch of conservatives has literally no effect on implicit feelings, but rather how we comport ourselves and utilize our own minds.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
32. As if I would be perfectly happy supporting a MAN who was for war and fracking and the TPP
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:30 PM
Apr 2016

and cluster bombs, etc. What tripe.

What the fuck ever happened to ISSUES? Hot steaming piles of demographics and sexism are being shoveled all over the fucking place, as if the ISSUES are not what differentiate Bernie and Hillary. FFS.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
48. My results: 'Your data suggest a strong association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader'
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:45 PM
Apr 2016

So much for that assumption. Next...

Tarc

(10,472 posts)
49. "Your data suggest a slight association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader"
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:48 PM
Apr 2016

Works for me.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
55. My results.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:52 PM
Apr 2016

Thank you for contributing to the AAUW's research on the topic of gender and leadership.

Below is the interpretation of your AAUW Implicit Association Test (IAT) performance

Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female.

And I am a Hillary supporter!

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
59. Still not a Hilary supporter.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:58 PM
Apr 2016

Thank you for contributing to the AAUW's research on the topic of gender and leadership.

Below is the interpretation of your AAUW Implicit Association Test (IAT) performance

Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Someone should ask Hillary to take the test.


LisaM

(27,792 posts)
62. The OP didn't mention Hillary, BTW
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:04 PM
Apr 2016

It simply mentioned women leaders, which I think is a fair topic for a political website. The knee-jerk reactions against Hillary suggests (to me) that there is a lot of subconscious, at least, disdain for her because she's a woman. It's a very, very neutral test (unless they've stacked it against the sex of the test taker through the original ID questions). No one who hates Hillary needs to worry about taking this test.

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
82. Exactly
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:41 PM
Apr 2016

Almost as though there are some who are not even curious about what might be their own unconscious biases. This is an important area of inquiry in a country that has never elected a woman leader in hundreds of years of history.

LisaM

(27,792 posts)
89. I read such an interesting statement on this the other day...
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:52 PM
Apr 2016

It was something along the lines of, your first reaction to something is what you've been conditioned to say or think. What you say next is much more in line with what you believe deep down.

I'm paraphrasing, but that made such an impression on me.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
100. What knee jerk reactions? The negative reactions toward Clinton are mostly the result of
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:20 PM
Apr 2016

informed people, of any gender, understanding that Hillary is a hard core Third Way corporatist candidate, with questionable ethical standards, and a great deal of negative political baggage dragging along behind her.

If Elizabeth Warren was the female candidate in question under the same circumstances, negative reactions toward her would be a fraction of what they are toward Clinton.

I'm not saying that there is not some sexist bias against Clinton occurring, of course there is. But the gender bias angle is deliberately and enormously overestimated by low information single issue voters playing a total identity politics game.

LisaM

(27,792 posts)
104. I think you are being a little disingenuous.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:34 PM
Apr 2016

The OP was asking in generic terms for people to take an online quiz about inherent gender bias, and before the ink was dry on the post, invectives about Hillary started flying.

Any problem with removing Hillary from the equation and just taking the quiz?

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
110. Seriously? Every reasonably perceptive poster immediately, and intuitively,
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 03:10 PM
Apr 2016

knew the OP was a Clinton supporter simply because of the fact that the OP posted this test in General Discussion: Primaries, during Primary season.

If the OP had posted the test in the Feminists Group, or HOF Group, or even, (at a stretch), in General Discussion, you might have a case.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
106. It was posted in GD_P, not in GD. You don't see any significance there? I do.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:37 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton is being implicitly referred to in this thread, else it needs to be locked for being in the wrong forum.

Glorfindel

(9,714 posts)
63. Fascinating! Thank you for posting this. I enjoyed taking it.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:06 PM
Apr 2016

My results showed a slight bias toward women as leaders and men as supporters. In fact, most of my immediate superiors have been women, so I guess that explains it.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
65. Often women are the worst- Its called Queen Bee Syndrome
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:10 PM
Apr 2016

Some women who have managed to get to the top are quite hostile to other women, QUITE hostile.

Just a data point.

athena

(4,187 posts)
69. That's sexist. This is the kind of thinking that keeps women down.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:14 PM
Apr 2016

Women can be bad, but men, when they're bad, are much, much worse to women than a woman will ever be. If you haven't experienced this, count yourself lucky.

ETA: Women at the top can also be extremely good, both to women and men. We should be talking about that, rather than perpetuating negative stereotypes about women. (I won't even repeat it; it's that offensive.)

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)
66. "Your data suggest a moderate association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader"
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:11 PM
Apr 2016

Would not read too much into it though. I think the reason for this result is that the correlation between "female" and "leader" was tested later during the test, during a time at which I was already "better" at the test, and hence responded quicker.

I think this sort of test will likely not work on people who play a lot of video games.

dr60omg

(283 posts)
68. Well I associate with a woman as a leader but do not support Clinton
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:13 PM
Apr 2016

That is an issue with associative tests particularly associative tests that come to a conclusion and then ask a secondary question would I like to see a female president in my lifetime. This test is also biased against people of a certain age.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
76. "Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female."
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:28 PM
Apr 2016

Am I supposed to feel bad about that?

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
78. Suggests a moderate association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:33 PM
Apr 2016

Interesting.

To me it does not really matter. I can see mismanagement in both genders.

My parents worked hard, both of them. My father did take the more nurturing role however.
He was the cook(taught us how to cook), neither of them helped in homework, my mother did not take care of me as a child. She went to work, and had a maid take care of me.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
86. According to the test, I strongly associate women with leadership.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:49 PM
Apr 2016

Still doesn't make me associate Hillary Clinton with leadership.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
98. That's what I got too
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:16 PM
Apr 2016

I was genuinely curious and was as fast and accurate as possible. I figured I'd get a neutral result, and was surprised by the assessment. Maybe Hillary's not woman enough for my support.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
88. I had an issue with the use of "Michael" as an exclusively male name.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:52 PM
Apr 2016

Whoever put this test together never watched The Waltons.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
93. "Your data suggest a slight association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader"
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:04 PM
Apr 2016

I voted for Bernie in the Texas Primary... A good leader is a good leader, genitals aside.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
96. "Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female."
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:12 PM
Apr 2016

Thank you for contributing to the AAUW's research on the topic of gender and leadership.

Below is the interpretation of your AAUW Implicit Association Test (IAT) performance

Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female.

_______________________________

I hate taking tests at this age. I thought it might unearth a preference as I assume most people have biases they are unaware of.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
99. I am biased towards WOMEN as leaders.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:17 PM
Apr 2016

I am a leader and I'm a woman. That's why I know a fraud when I see one and am supporting Bernie!!

GeorgeGist

(25,311 posts)
105. The test is bogus.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:35 PM
Apr 2016

I got every response correct yet the 'test' concludes:[font highlight=yellow]

Your data suggest a moderate association of Female with Supporter and Male with Leader.


 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
107. Because the test first teaches your muscles to use the same key for Male and Leader.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:48 PM
Apr 2016

First test, left is Male.
Second test, left is Leader.
Third test, left is Male and Leader.
Fourth test, left is Male and Leader.
Fifth test, left is Female.

I did not even bother after that. Knowing there were only two more tests, I could already tell that I had been programmed to more rapidly associate Male and Leader. That was not going to immediately go away.

You got them all right, but you presumably were slower with the Female and Leader test for this reason. You had to overcome the teaching.

As you say, the test is bogus.


auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
109. It's not just about correct answers.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 03:04 PM
Apr 2016

It's measuring your reaction time. If it takes you longer to answer the female/leader ones, then you get the results you posted.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
108. This test has flawed methodology.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 03:00 PM
Apr 2016

Practice effects are when you get better at a task through repetition. If the test had reversed the order of the matchup between female/leader and male/leader, or at least made the order random for different participants, it would have less bias.

That said, I KNOW people are biased against female leaders.

Nanjeanne

(4,915 posts)
112. I'm against Hillary Clinton's policies and judgement. I wouldn't vote for Margaret Thatcher either.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 03:23 PM
Apr 2016

I was quite fond of Tarja Halonen of Finland. Mary Robinson of Ireland was really good for her country and so was Mary Patricia McAleese who followed her. Ruth Dreifuss of Switzerland was a member of the Social Democrat Party and did great things for Switzerland for 9 years. There are many wonderful leaders around the world who are women. But when I look for leadership, I look for what a person stands for - what their vision of their country is - and I choose accordingly. Hillary isn't my chose.

ETA: Took the test - my results were: Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female. Which I would expect.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
114. "Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female."
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 03:43 PM
Apr 2016

That's my result.

Unsurprising, since this isn't an "implicit association" test, it's a test of how quickly and accurately you type in response to a stimulus on screen. And I'm a good typist.

Total bullshit test of nothing.

But okay, life in Cambridge is expensive and you gotta haul in the funding somehow.

But let me tell you what's really bullshit - posting this here as if it's relevant.

People here especially oppose Clinton because of her odious politics. Period.

hereforthevoting

(241 posts)
118. "Your data suggest a slight association of Male with Supporter and Female with Leader"
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 06:25 AM
Apr 2016

A couple of times I selected the male name as female.

Too bad there are no worthy females to vote for this Spring. But Fall is coming soon!

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
119. Haveadream, do you have to take a test to prove you're biased against race or can you just admit it?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:15 AM
Apr 2016

I'm 50 and have had 6 female bosses and 4 male bosses, I've even worked in a female dominated field where I'm the only male in the office at two locations.

4 Male bosses: let me be me, shot the shit, talked sports, took me to lunch

The good female: very similar, not uptight, knew I liked to entertain the others and appreciated me. Laughed at my jokes.

5th male boss wasn't my direct boss, he was the program director, and worked in cahoots with a young, female manager who was awesome to my face but afraid to tell me anything other than I'm awesome and bring so much to the team. So he attended all of my supervisions and tried to intimidate me while she sat their blank faced. So fuck those two, I liked her a lot but knew she felt otherwise about me. Ultimately, I reported both of them to the Department of Labor. I would have just quit and moved on, but they picked a fight with me.

1 female boss: she wasn't an onsight boss so she relied on the 23-26 year old women, very inexperienced in life, poor social skills, and unliked by young adult clients because they spoke down to them, to watch me closely. I was twice their age and a natural at my job. But I made my coworkers feel inferior about themselves. The program director, a man, thought I was awesome so I stayed as long as I wanted. Totally ignored the criticism from my boss because it was based on reports from pathetic coworkers.

1 female boss: SOOOO uptight, very condescending, horrible people skills, thought my comedy act reflected poorly on her and gave me busy work. She got fired after 1 year, I was with the company for almost 7 years, but lost that job on Day 1 of the Great Recession. She was replaced by one of the good female bosses.

good bosses, gender neutral:
1. Not uptight
2. Appreciate me
3. Good people skills
4. Shoot the shit

Bad bosses, gender neutral:
1. Shitty people skills
2. Uptight
3. Micromanagers
4. Network of spies


Now you go!

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
121. My results:
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:08 AM
Apr 2016

Your data suggest no automatic preference between Male and Female.


And, while I definitely want to see a woman president in my lifetime, Hillary Rodham Clinton is not that woman.

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