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Vattel

(9,289 posts)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 03:59 PM Apr 2016

Clinton's preferred drug policies would be a disaster for Mexicans.

Legalization is the only way to substantially reduce the misery and death caused by the drug wars (violence resulting from competition between drug cartels) and the war on drugs (violence resulting from the Mexican government's attempts to fight the drug cartels). Clinton keeps saying that we need to do more research before we legalize even marijuana. For Mexico, that means the murder and terror continues.

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loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
1. Legalizing marijuana would also cut down on opioid use and overdoses
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 04:04 PM
Apr 2016

It would be better to decriminalize addiction entirely so that a person whose preference is opoioids could get a dose of morphine rather than breaking the law to purchase a more dangerous drug.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
4. The argument for legalization is so overwhelming at this point
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 04:13 PM
Apr 2016

that one has to wonder how Clinton can be so clueless. The costs of the war on drugs to Americans in terms of mass incarceration and AIDS and US gang violence and costs of the sort you mention are all important to point out. Americans sometimes forget, though, that Mexicans bear some of the worst costs of our failure to legalize. And I might add that other Latin American countries also suffer immensely.

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
2. it ain't just in Mexico
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 04:09 PM
Apr 2016

the drug war has countless negative effects here too:

- political corruption
- police brutality & militarization
- negative health consequences for marginalized but harmless and peaceful individuals
- loss of privacy
- obscene costs (over $1 trillion has been wasted on it to date)
- pushing drugs onto the black market leads to inability to control access for minors

etc. etc.


BUT private prison operation is a mega business and guess who they contribute heavily to?

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
7. Well, this is a US election and US policy
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 04:19 PM
Apr 2016

so US citizens' needs should be the first taken into account.

There's actually quite a lot that Mexico could do to put a stop to the drug war if it wanted to. If they legalized it would make a world of difference over there also. I would not put the primary responsibility for Mexican needs on the US government where Mexico's government fails to take commonsense actions that would be a great relief to their population as well as reducing the strength of cartels on both sides of the border.

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
5. Any politician that advocates continued prohibition is corrupt.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 04:14 PM
Apr 2016

To maintain the cannabis plant at schedule 1 status is pure corruption. The only thing dangerous about the cannabis plant is being arrested for it. The oppressive law destroys lives and the majority of the time it is black people and brown people that are getting their lives destroyed and ended by law enforcement. Advocates of prohibition support a racist tyrannical law used to oppress the poor and minorities.

Clinton supports destroying lives. She has no value for human life. She believes in authoritarian, tyrannical, intrusive big mother government that exploits the poor and minorities for the gain of those at the top. Prohibition is only about greed nothing else. And Hillary's greed and lack of respect for human life and human rights is well documented. Power control and greed are her only motivators.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
8. Since Mexico is not a province of the US
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 04:22 PM
Apr 2016

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That discussion is happening in Mexico. I almost expect legalization when all is said and done. Trust me, the DEA will not be happy.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
9. But the high demand for the product is in the USA.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 08:34 PM
Apr 2016

So isn't the real solution legalization in the US?

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