CNN is reporting that Clinton Campaign is going to "take off the gloves" for New York...

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

I hope she knows that is a losing strategy... The more she attacks the more his supporters rally behind him. I remember in the early days when we were polling way way down in national polls when an attack popped up from her we would raise a bunch of money off it in reaction...

[TSIAS]

1. Bring it on n/t

[timmymoff]

5. Bring it don't sing it

and try not to flip flop on those stances if you can Your Corporate Majesty!

[CentralMass]

42. I think that Bernie has ample counter measures should he chose to reciprocate.

[timmymoff]

45. With the panama papers

TPP and nafta, he can hammer her all night long. She is in big trouble, her supporters know it as well. She may not because she is a terrible campaigner.

[CorporatistNation]

62. The AMMO Box Is OVERFLOWING! NO NEED TO INVENT STUFF TO DESTROY HILLARY!

HILLARY HAS PERSONALLY CREATED EVERY IOTA OF MATERIAL THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE USED AGAINST HER...

THE NEWEST IS THIS MONEY LAUNDERING "PROGRAM" THROUGH THE DNC IN CONCERT WITH 33 STATES AND THE ASSOCIATED "BOUGHT OFF" SUPER DELEGATES ALIGNING WITH HILLARY FOR CERTAIN "CONSIDERATIONS..." :guffaw! guffaw!

Watch and learn just HOW this "program" was engineered to funnel ca$h to Hillary's campaign... Courtesy of Cenk and TYT and Counterpunch... Here is their analysis about how the DNC is "laundering" money for Hillary... Elections being bought by billionaires Debbie? Nah... Really... Listen to Cenk and review CounterPunch investigation of the DNC State Party Billionaire and Super Delegate power purchase money laundering arrangement to make Hillary "THE Shoe in" for the Democratic Party Presidential Nomination in 2016!

[Dustlawyer]

57. I think y'all misunderstood CNN and the point they were making.

She is taking off her gloves in NY to show Trump that her hands are bigger, that's all!

Feel the Bern!

[Proud Liberal Dem]

120. You know

it didn't end well for the last person who said that. Just sayin' Besides, it's STILL a much steeper climb for Bernie than it is for Hillary.

[Vattel]

2. She got real dirty in Nevada and I think it helped her to win

and break Sander's momentum from NH. So I worry that she will do the same in NY.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

7. I think Sanders is better prepared now to defend himself...

The more recent debates he was much more effective, I especially loved Miami's debate

[Vattel]

15. You can't really defend yourself against things like TV ads three days before the vote.

[litlbilly]

24. turns out, Bernie won Nevada so theres that.

[Punkingal]

8. Reid stole Nevada for her.

She didn't win it legitimately.

[amborin]

30. and she fraudulently distributed the fake fliers saying she was for $15

[stillwaiting]

122. Exactly. Dirty tricks secured the Nevada win which in the end didn't work since there was not...

... enough enthusiasm for HRC to turn out for the next caucus round.

There is video proof of dirty tricks during the Nevada precinct level caucus in Vegas. Horribly corrupt.

[Wilms]

3. Yikes!

[ViseGrip]

4. This time around, Hillary's campaign has not been becoming of her at all.

She's getting downright ugly.

[metroins]

13. No she hasn't

Hillary has been using complete kid gloves the entire time.

There's sixteen kagillion trillion x infinitely things to hit Sanders on. She's barely touched him.

Sanders has been hitting her with almost no response.

[daleanime]

33. Like?

[metroins]

36. I guess we'll find out tomorrow

No need for me to point it out.

[roguevalley]

70. you should. but then you don't have bupkis so ...

[metroins]

71. I'll let the campaign do it for me

So I don't catch a hide tonight.

[SwampG8r]

106. Hides dont matter anymore

Embrace it like your brethren have and speak your true mind.

[hellofromreddit]

40. Subway tokens

Totally superimportant.

[daleanime]

58. Didn't know that Bernie smoked....

much less on the Subway, he should know better.

[amborin]

37. no, Bernie has not taken the gloves off even once; article about this very topic in NY Times;

[metroins]

39. He has personally attacked her

Since December.

[immoderate]

52. What do you consider a 'personal attack?'

Example?

--imm

[AgerolanAmerican]

56. telling the truth

to Clinton, that's a personal attack

and it kind of is, given what the truth about her is

[immoderate]

94. Bernie tells the truth to everybody.

Personal attacks will sound something like, "you're too fat," or "you smell bad," or "you're ugly." Things like "your policies will enable destruction of the environment," while serious, don't qualify as personal attacks.

--imm

On edit: I misread at first, but I'll let it stand as I was only marginally snarky.

[amborin]

87. no, he hasn't; he has called attention to her paid speeches, but very mildly; that's not a personal

attack; it's simply pointing out her indebtedness to big banks

[metroins]

88. Lol

And many many other speculations.

You'll ask for proof and I'll tell you to Google it.

I won't further attacks on the Democratic front runner.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

50. she is acting like she is in bosnia and is running from the incoming

lol

[metroins]

51. Another personal attack nt

[SoLeftIAmRight]

53. she lied - i piont it out - and that is wrong

think - it helps

[metroins]

69. And we'll laugh

At Bernies hypocrisy tomorrow and beyond.

I personally believe in policy discussion but Bernie has been in the gutter for months.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

74. Climate change and the sixth global mass-extinction event is happening now

and she thinks war on isis is the greatest challenge - policy - hers sucks

[metroins]

76. You're talking policy

And I agree with your post.

[roguevalley]

72. given that my baby boy was a soldier then running from real actual live snipers,

I PERSONALLY don't believe it can be said enough. She LIED. Fact. No personal attack there.

[amborin]

89. personal attack would be like: hey, HRC, you look positively unstable lately;

[metroins]

92. ... nt

[Aerows]

97. Hillary Clinton has asserted multiple times

that she landed under sniper fire, and that the plane had to use evasive maneuvers.

That was a lie - a big one, and she got caught in it after footage was displayed of that particular day.

Pointing out that someone told a giant fib is not a personal attack, it is stating a fact. Brian Williams did the same thing, and nobody claimed it was a personal attack against him - they just stated that he had a grandiose idea about how heroic he was, which is the same in this particular situation with Hillary.

If I'm not mistaken, Bill O'Reilly made statements that implied he was in a war zone, and happened to be 400 miles from it. Nobody called it a personal attack when he was rightfully called on the carpet for it.

[metroins]

98. Sounds like a personal attack to me

I see no policy listed in your post.

[SwampG8r]

109. How about

If a person is caught repeatedly in a lie designed to give them false credibility regarding military experience that person should not be allowed to set military policy.
Personal attack or policy statement?

[Nite Owl]

54. Lol

[Zira]

63. +10000

[Renew Deal]

100. Only someone that didn't experience the 2008 primary would say something like that

[MattP]

6. Jonathan Karl clone reports

[TDale313]

9. Big mistake. People in Vermont will tell ya...

Attack Bernie and his numbers go up. It boomerangs. People like and trust him- ya attack and you just look like the asshole.

[GreenPartyVoter]

105. Shhhhhhh!!! Don't give them any help!

LOL

[Red Oak]

10. She has to. Lose New York and it is game over for Clinton

[reformist2]

16. Exactly. Suddenly, Hillary finds herself in HUGE trouble. She's going to age 5 years this month.

[Hydra]

55. She was in huge trouble pre-NV

A bit of cheating later and she was back in business. I don't think it'll be that easy this time though...I'm sure that's why she went all volcanic temper tantrum on the Greenpeace Girl- pure panic from her team's polling.

[disillusioned73]

23. My thoughts..

exactly.. the Clinton campaign is seeing the numbers & they are not trending well.. the kitchen sink is coming... AGAIN

[Red Oak]

26. Bernie must have a whole "Hill" of kitchen sinks right now

[Major Hogwash]

28. Well, she has already lost New York, so it is already game over for Hillary.

Her remarks about Nancy Reagan a few weeks ago about how Nancy pioneered the national conversation about HIV/AIDS is going to cost her big in New York state.
And her speeches to Wall Street are going to cost her many, many votes in New York state, as well.

Not to mention that Bernie is from Brooklyn, the original home of the Dodgers!

[Trajan]

47. I was born of a Brooklyn born and raised mother ...

and surrounded by Brooklyn born and raised aunts and uncles ....

There is no way even the Clinton's can get away with bullshit ...

Bernie is bona fide .... It's his to win in his home state .....

[Red Oak]

60. +1 Hillary is from Illinois and Arkansas

While she was obviously a New York Senator through political manipulation, do New Yorkers really feel she is one of their own?

I doubt it.

Bernie is the real deal.

[reformist2]

11. Not a good idea, Hill. You know what they say - people with glass jaws, shouldn't throw punches.

[morningfog]

12. There is only one reason they are saying that: suck ass internal polling in NY.

Make no mistake, this past week's vileness had everything to do with NY.

They are worried. They are afraid. They see it slipping, yet again.

Bring it on. Hillary is going to do her nasty shit and it will back fire on her.

[reformist2]

20. You mean I shouldn't believe the crap polls telling me she's up by 30 points???

[litlbilly]

25. latest polls are saying 10 points. He will be up by that come NY election day

[Red Oak]

32. Yes - from 40% lead to 12% to 10% latest

You can feel New York trending toward Bernie and this Wisconsin win will do nothing but accelerate it.

If Bernie had a parking ticket in high school, Clinton and the muckrakers are about to tell you about it.

So much for discussing policy - hey team Hill?


BTW - we are all still waiting for those transcripts.

[roguevalley]

78. he was down what? 40 points in Wisconsin and he beat her by 11-12%. He's only

down in New York by 11-12 %. He gains that much on her EVERY SINGLE CONTEST. She will lose New York.

[Marr]

81. +1, I think you're right. /nt

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

14. And to my fellow Bernie supporters we must pledge now!

To make 50-100 calls a day as best you can until New York comes around... If we push phonebanking hard in New York we can crush her like a bug.

[daleanime]

38. +1

[azmom]

64. Yes, let's do it.

[CorporatistNation]

65. The Phone Operation Is A BEAUTIFUL AND SIMPLE PROGRAM TO USE!

I've used it and my friend called Wi. for an hour this afternoon. Just gave another $50 Bucks!

[dana_b]

91. I am going to do my best

I have a shitload of stuff to do but i will make time for some phone banking

[dana_b]

17. difference: when she ""take off the gloves" - she lies

when he takes off the gloves, he just tells the truth and she complains that he's attacking her.

The good news is that New Yorkers don't fall for it.

[Marr]

83. She also underestimates the intelligence of voters.

Her campaign keeps making these attacks that are just insulting to the average person's intelligence-- like the 'he voted against the auto bailout' thing in Michigan.

[dana_b]

86. yes, and she forgets that people are very quick w/the internet

Anything she says or claims will be looked up in a matter of minutes so if she really is going to "attack" him, she better make damn sure that she tells the TRUTH because it will make things worse for her otherwise.

[itsrobert]

18. I wouldn't blame her if she did, but it's not going to happen

She's got this.

[Triana]

19. OK. . . .

...but these attacks only seem to energize the Berners.

[pa28]

21. If she has to fight this desperately to win her home state how does she win the GE?

This should be a huge red flag for anyone still laboring under the idea Hillary is the most electable candidate.

[YASSIR THE FAT]

113. She already won her home states.

There's that. Many of the New Yorkers consider Clinton a carpetbagger.

[notadmblnd]

22. ....

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. Mahatma Gandhi
Read more at: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/mahatmagan103630.html

[oregonjen]

27. Perfect quote!

[BernieforPres2016]

29. I hope she doesn't know it's a losing strategy

Please do it. Please please pretty please. Show the panic.

[CoffeeCat]

31. Yes, yes and yes

I just posted this in another thread.

Clinton has been unhinged lately. It's been embarrassing for her.

Understandable though. She's being investigated by the FBI, she may be interviewed soon, she's blown a 20+ point lead in her "home state" of NY. Her finger jabbing screed at that Greenpeace activist didn't do her any favors.

Hillary needs to do some mindful meditation. She doesn't need to whip her campaign into ludicrous speed.

But please! Far be it for me to judge. I welcome this, because when Hillary gets in cray cray mode, she tends to slide off the deep end and make decisions purely out of fear.

Bernie will be riding off the WI momentum and he's going to wind handily in WY, so he'll have that going for him.

<snicker>

[beedle]

34. Ohhh, scary ...

what are you going to do Hillary, get WaPo to give Bernie some more 'Pinocchio Awards'?

Tax returns of the poorest Washington Politician; Hillary oil donors are REALLY ONLY 0.4% wink wink, he's lying;

As long as you want to look mean, vindictive and petty please continue ... that subway token "scandal" is a good start BTW.


ETA: Good move - a concession tweet. Keep those troops inspired and confident.

[winter is coming]

35. Shh. Hand her the anchor and back away slowly. n/t

[slipslidingaway]

59. ^^^^^! :) nt

[1StrongBlackMan]

43. I hope this is not the case ...

as Bernie will be subjected to the "challenges" that HRC has been facing and Sanders has been spared. It would likely hurt the Bernie camps feelings.

I view this as an exhibition match, where the HRC camp is sparing and pulling punches; whereas, the Bernie camp is all out fighting.

Should the HRC camp do it's thing, it will lead to ugliness.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

61. Bring every motherfucking thing you have. All of it, and whenever you feel like it.

There will be no prisoners, I hope both sides see that. So let's do this motherfucker to the death. I'm ready. You?

[1StrongBlackMan]

99. I'm neither the candidate, nor connected to the campaign ...

I have nothing to bring.

But from your language, you appear to be advocating for scorched earth primaries.

That's dumb.

[Bluenorthwest]

114. Your candidate already scortched the Earth herself

Hillary's Claims:
"It may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about HIV/AIDS back in the 1980s and because of both president and Mrs. Reagan — in particular Mrs. Reagan — we started a national conversation, when before nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it, and that too is something I really appreciate with her very effective low-key advocacy. It penetrated the public conscience and people began to say, hey, we have to do something about this too.

New York History:
ACT UP: Target City Hall, WNBC News 4 New York

WNBC-TV News 4 New York at 6:00 PM. Coverage of ACT UP's Target City Hall, March 28, 1989. A re-edited report by Gabe Pressman for the 6:00 PM edition of News 4 New York.

[1StrongBlackMan]

117. Who is my candidate?

[JackRiddler]

44. This is so going to work for Sanders.

What is she going to do, call him a carpetbagging profiteer warmonger? The one often effective dirty card to play in a presidential primary here would be to call him weak on Israel. Sanders is just the right guy to try that on. It will be fun.

[me b zola]

102. I think that she will have her superpacs blast NYC with nasty, lying ads

...and her campaign will say that they had nothing to do with them. I think that good guerilla campaigning will counter the effect of her slime attack.

[lunasun]

116. I predict subliminal red baiting and BS specifics on promises in NY like breaking big finance

She could win big with that attitude or lose even more with the voters who get turned off.

Must think it is a risk worth taking . Sanders must be too close for her in NY to change course in her debate style
I hope both sides stay classy and smart for Dems to shine in comparison to the R(ude) party

[JackRiddler]

118. I predict it won't be subliminal.

But the red-baiting as adjunct to a full-frontal that he's weak on Israel. Straight from 1984, it will be. (The year, though the book is also relevant.) And even though it will backfire. They can't help it, it might as well be their nature.

[KingFlorez]

45. It's about time

Go Clinton!

[timmymoff]

49. We Bernie supporters have been saying go Clinton for a long time.

Go home to whatever state you are from. Go somewhere, but go quickly. Go screw yourself! Go fly a kite! Just go. This will be the beginning of the end for her. After all, we would be gone by Super Tuesday.

[CentralMass]

48. A new campaign song ;-)

[bbgrunt]

82. perfect tune!

[Half-Century Man]

66. After reading all the rabid responces from Camp Weathervane...

I've discovered I can't get angry at them anymore. No more so than I could at a flailing panicked swimmer at the pool.
I won't engage them, just wait for them to exhaust themselves and help them to the side in a bit.

I'm sure Ms. Clinton doesn't realize the era where she was relevant has passed. The world is in the hands of the newer generations now; and the one selected as "Sensei" was someone she marginalized in her head for decades. Things once seen as legacies, are now viewed as obstacles to the forward progress of human civilization.



On Edit: I live in Rock CO. WI. With 100% of the polls reporting, Bernie wins 60.4 to 39.2.....a 21.2 margin.
Yay.

[bbgrunt]

84. good job Rock co! Now if you could just do the same to that asshat ryan...

seriously, I almost feel the same about those flailing swimmers--just remember they will end up blaming you no matter the outcome.

[Half-Century Man]

93. I met the Berniecrat trying to unseat Ryan.

Nice guy, smart and caring. He can be coattailed easily.

[bbgrunt]

95. I agree about Bernie.

I used to live next door in walworth, so I know the struggle and appreciate your efforts.

[GreenPartyVoter]

107. Awesome news!

[BuelahWitch]

67. She's gonna throw a Carpetbag at him....

[CentralMass]

73. Great one.

[bbgrunt]

85. hahaha!

[Marr]

68. It's like she's stuck in 1993.

This election season is defined, right and left alike, by voter disgust with the establishment. Hillary is widely disliked and considered untrustworthy. Sanders is considered trustworthy.

Getting more aggressive with Sanders will work against her.

[liberal_at_heart]

75. it's tax return season. I have bills to pay but will have some extra money I can

donate each and every time Hillary attacks Bernie.

[Deadshot]

77. She can't win cleanly so she's going to play dirty.

That's the sign of desperation.

Bernie is only behind Hillary by 249 pledged delegates with 1,966 still available.

[passiveporcupine]

79. The sad part is, if she had a winning strategy, and she was a popular candidate

she would never need to go all negative on a great guy like Bernie. And it's pretty hard to go negative and be honest, on a guy like Bernie.

I am sure it will win her some votes. But I suspect it will lose her more.

Ugly tactics usually don't work for long.

[SheenaR]

80. I said it elsewhere

But no campaign "frontrunner" which was secure about its "insurmountable" lead would ever resort to going negative. It's a bad bad idea.

[dana_b]

90. this:

Van Jones ‏@VanJones68 45m
note to @HillaryClinton: NOT advisable.

[7wo7rees]

96. Well this should be rich! No pun intended.

Go Hill!

[Mike Nelson]

101. Agree...

...and she doesn't need to take off the gloves. The Daily News just took off for her... I wonder about CNN's characterization and choice of words. She could get tougher on specific issues, but neither Democratic candidate will look good as a Trump, Cruz or Rubio. I hope they do not go that route. Hillary's winning, too, but getting slimy would put her chances of winning in serious jeopardy.

[B Calm]

103. I hope her Young Republican roots come out and she starts pointing

her finger at the liberal Bernie Sanders.

[GreenPartyVoter]

104. Going from the gutter down into the sewers. What's below that?

[Volaris]

110. That very, very dark part of ourselves that we don't like to talk about at cocktail parties...

But according to the SO's seven year old son, that's also where some pretty awesome Ninja Turtles live, so I suppose it can't be all bad down there lol

[GreenPartyVoter]

121. LOL

[HereSince1628]

108. Does that mean more crap that Sanders is an evil gun-loving medicaid-stealing white patriarch?

It's the only thing that seems to have worked this election cycle.

[Volaris]

111. Trying to call Bernie Sanders a Republican can't be anything but

the very Height of Projection...

[HereSince1628]

112. Good one, but for that I need to add he's into tax-and-spend

[Volaris]

115. Given the release of the Panama Papers the other day,

And the obscene amounts of corporate money that is NOT being taxes as it rightfully should, I would counter that being TAX and Spend probably isn't all that effective an attack (at the moment..I'll concede that in the General, against idiot Republicans, it might carry more weight).

I'll vote for the Democratic Nominee in the general, whomever that may be. But this is why we NEED dynamic and hard fought Primaries, so we know what our PARTY Position on important issues will look like in September and October.

Good luck (to all of us) in New York!

[JackRiddler]

119. Republican and Communist.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

123. Exchanging the steel gauntlets for brass knucks?