2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNew York: closed primary, registrations are over, diverse, the one state that loves Wall Street
How does Bernie win here?
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Not to mention:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511657658
jfern
(5,204 posts)dchill
(42,660 posts)Bernie from Brooklyn gets ZERO votes.
Right? Did I get it right?
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)isn't it?
revbones
(3,660 posts)fights for the 99%, occupiers from Occupy Wall St love him, polls swing big when he gets boots on the ground. Couple that with Hillary's unfavorables and corruption, as well as any fallout from the Panama deal, her free trade advocacy, lies to unions, etc...
You tell me. But then I'm guessing by your username you guys affiliated with her campaign know all this already...
TMontoya
(369 posts)That is a nothing movement nowadays and seens as a liability to most Democrats.
revbones
(3,660 posts)that don't approve of Wall St and look favorably on Bernie.
But that isn't the majority of NY, and NYC right now does not like De Blasio at all, he won't even win his re-election. Many associate De Blasio with Sanders so it turns a lot off.
We'll see in a couple of weeks.
TMontoya
(369 posts)kcjohn1
(751 posts)In NY. Only 2 million voted in '08.
The thing people don't realize is when a state has closed primary, voters tend to be registered to one party or another. Plus NY is heavily Dem state so huge chunk of the population is already registered as democrats. What Bernie has to do is get those who are registered out to vote.
hill2016
(1,772 posts)in New York given registration is over...
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)To get out the registration, I know the Sanders reddit group made over 100,000 calls in that time.
TMontoya
(369 posts)Is this a joke?
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)SheenaR
(2,052 posts)A joke? Hardly. The Sanders for President Reddit has been an integral part of the success on the ground. But with your extensive knowledge on display here tonight, you clearly already knew that.
Sorry if I interrupted your trolling. Just responding to your post which had a lack of understanding as to what's been going on for months.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)He wasn't even going to win Vermont...
Remember?
I'm reminded of this Onion piece...
http://www.theonion.com/article/retreating-clinton-campaign-torches-iowa-town-slow-52261
kcjohn1
(751 posts)No Independents, but I think Independents only make up 17% of the NY state.
Again lots of progressive registered dems. If Wisconsin was closed, he would be screwed because its relatively small state that has as many repubs as dems. NY because its large and progressive state has 2:1 DEM/GOP registration.
3 million registered dems didn't even vote in 08 which was epic in terms of turnout. Issue won't be there not enough people to vote for Bernie. If he can't win, its because he couldn't get people to come out to vote for him not because they couldn't vote, but rather his message is not getting through.
delrem
(9,688 posts)You guys started out by saying The USA Dem party, 90% behind Hillary Clinton, how can Bernie Sanders win?
And now you're freaked because something's happening here and you don't know what it is. Do you?
JPnoodleman
(454 posts)paulthompson
(2,398 posts)That's a big advantage for Sanders, due to the Sanders late surge trend, which I mention here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511657772
Basically, voters who decide at the last minute go towards Sanders in a big way. So he does badly with people who voted a week or more in advance, because they miss out on his late momentum with his huge rallies and ads and media coverage. Nearly every state up until now has had early voting, sometimes by overwhelming numbers (like in Arizona and Florida, where over 80% voted early).
I think that cancels out the closed primary factor.
Oh, and there's no early voting in the next four of out five states too.
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