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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:03 AM Apr 2016

BBC Headline: "For Bernie, it's momentum versus MATHS..." LOL! Gotta love the Brits' humour...

For Mr Sanders every delegate counts if he wants to catch Mrs Clinton - a formidable task given the sizable lead she built up by routing the Vermont senator in contests across the South last month.
...

Mr Sanders, if his recent string of victories is to be anything more than a political footnote, will need to attract black and Hispanic votes in numbers he has yet achieve. If he can do that, then the narrative in this race stops being Mrs Clinton's inevitability and becomes a question of whether the front-runner can hang on.
...

If New York is the key, however, Mr Sanders's campaign there may be stumbling out of the gate. Today he received a raft of negative press for an interview he gave with the editorial board of the Daily News, a New York City newspaper, that critics say exposes his thin grasp on the issues - and foreign policy in particular.
...

"We've said for a long time that this primary is about who's really going to be able to get things done," the Clinton campaign said in a news release on Tuesday night. "And from reading this interview, you get the impression Senator Sanders hasn't thought very much about that."

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-35975079

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Excellent reality check from the British press.

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BBC Headline: "For Bernie, it's momentum versus MATHS..." LOL! Gotta love the Brits' humour... (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 OP
What, that's across the pond! Iliyah Apr 2016 #1
That's where I reside, Iliyah...across the big pond...LOL! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #2
He lost Blacks by 40 points tonight UMTerp01 Apr 2016 #3
Not if you have surrogates like Robbins Iliyah Apr 2016 #5
Jeezus, ain't that the truth! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #7
Or Nina Turner thinking Black support for Hillary is akin to people used to being ok with slavery UMTerp01 Apr 2016 #8
Yeap, West was great in IA and NH which was mostly white now he's unseen. That's left a uponit7771 Apr 2016 #14
Yea, funny stuff angrychair Apr 2016 #25
Oh, you mean Timmy "Two--TWO--TWO INSULTS IN ONE!!!" Robbins? LOL!!! MADem Apr 2016 #33
Excellent news from the field. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #9
And Clinton lost Independents by 44 points beedle Apr 2016 #40
Clinton just lost by 13 points. The math is that he is raking in all the votes he needs to Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #4
Right now the popular margin is 57-43. If that margin carries over into delegates, Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #6
a sanders landslide in ca is all he needs SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #17
Just for you...LOL! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #20
i have something for you SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #21
Lovely invite, but I live across the big pond, so will most likely Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #23
No, he isn't. And you might want to read that frighteningly obtuse NYDN interview. nt MADem Apr 2016 #34
That non issue is a horse dead on arrival. Why beat it? Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #37
Yeah and the BBC worked overtime to undermine Jeremy Corbin when he was running for bjo59 Apr 2016 #10
Can't wait to see Jeremy carry the country in the next GE! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #11
seen this? Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #38
Black families that live outside of the south still have family in the south Iliyah Apr 2016 #12
Precisely, the ties that bind are still there...no matter how many generations Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #18
The BBC has been doing the "math, math, math" thing for a while Number23 Apr 2016 #13
Careful. That factual thing called math doesn't go well over here. UMTerp01 Apr 2016 #15
By George I believe you've got it Iliyah Apr 2016 #19
"when you talk about ghettos traditionally, what you talk about is African-American communities. " uponit7771 Apr 2016 #16
How's that Cornel West surrogacy goin', Bern? Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #22
That patois is really infectious, innit? bvf Apr 2016 #24
Has it? Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #26
Your response is a perfect example of 1.b. bvf Apr 2016 #27
Save your concern for more deserving subjects, i.e. the poor Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #28
As opposed to the banks who keep sending in their $300,000? marmar Apr 2016 #32
They're not getting any smarter, are they? bvf Apr 2016 #45
No it's not. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #29
Uh huh. bvf Apr 2016 #35
Why not? Bad Dog Apr 2016 #41
Be sure to tell your frie-- er, peeps. bvf Apr 2016 #42
Peeps? Bad Dog Apr 2016 #43
Came in late, did you? bvf Apr 2016 #44
Late? Bad Dog Apr 2016 #46
One trick pony, you are. bvf Apr 2016 #47
I bet you're the life and soul of parties. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #48
On occasion. bvf Apr 2016 #49
You don't have to tell me. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #51
No--you tried for an accusation that was race-based, and you fell short. MADem Apr 2016 #36
Oh, stop it, will you? bvf Apr 2016 #39
KNR Thank you! Lucinda Apr 2016 #30
The pleasure is mine! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #31
Smashing! NurseJackie Apr 2016 #50
Thank you for this from the bbc, Surya! Cha Apr 2016 #52
 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
3. He lost Blacks by 40 points tonight
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:08 AM
Apr 2016

PA, NY, MD (where I live) will have more of a Black electorate percentage than Wisconsin so unless the whole "once Black people learn of Bernie they will be for him" thing actually starts translating, I don't see how he catches Hillary in the pledged delegate count. Being in MD and listening to Black talk radio, you're seeing pretty much the same thing with Black voters. Younger Blacks are more for Bernie but still mostly for Hillary. Older Blacks, particularly older Black women are solidly Hillary Clinton.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
7. Jeezus, ain't that the truth!
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:15 AM
Apr 2016


He's shaping up to be a disaster on wheels, not to mention that Rep. from Ohio and her "slavery" analogy.

 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
8. Or Nina Turner thinking Black support for Hillary is akin to people used to being ok with slavery
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:15 AM
Apr 2016

I mean what a dumb ass statement. Cornel West (aka Mr. Anti-Obama) being a Sanders surrogate has pissed off a lot of Black people I know. Then you have Susan Sarandon's recent comments. She lives in a reality that most people do not, particularly Black people. Then Nina Turner's comments were just stupid. Tell Black people why Sanders is good for Black people. Don't denigrate them to make your point about your candidate.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
14. Yeap, West was great in IA and NH which was mostly white now he's unseen. That's left a
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:25 AM
Apr 2016

... really bad taste.

angrychair

(12,278 posts)
25. Yea, funny stuff
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 04:11 AM
Apr 2016

Like that Clinton surrogate that said women that don't vote for Clinton will burn in Hell. Good times.
That other one that said young women vote for Sanders because men tell them too. Funny, right?

How about that time in 2008 when the Clinton campaign sent out a photo of Obama in traditional Solmali grab in a "not like us" meme. Classy, am I right.
Remember when Clinton herself answered questions by playing it sly when answering if he was born in America or really a Christian or not. Politics, huh?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
33. Oh, you mean Timmy "Two--TWO--TWO INSULTS IN ONE!!!" Robbins? LOL!!!
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:49 AM
Apr 2016

The guy managed to disrespect Asian-Pacific Islanders and black people in ONE SENTENCE!!!

Shit, George Bush should have hired him to run FEMA, because that was just a HECKUVAJOB, Timmy!!!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
9. Excellent news from the field. Thanks for posting.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:17 AM
Apr 2016
"I don't see how he catches Hillary in the pledged delegate count..."
 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
40. And Clinton lost Independents by 44 points
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:43 AM
Apr 2016


Which group is more likely to remain as Democratic voters if their supported candidate is no longer in the race?

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
4. Clinton just lost by 13 points. The math is that he is raking in all the votes he needs to
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:08 AM
Apr 2016

secure the nomination.

As for understanding issues: he foresaw the Panama disaster in 2011. Clinton was touting it. He voted against the IWR. Clinton voted to give King George his blank check to play real-life stratego and turn Iraq into a terrorist hellhole. She then went on to do a bit of regime change in Libya, because she wanted to show that she, too, can play with soldiers.

She is a two-trick pony: war and greed. I'll take his judgement over her "experience" any day: her experience consists of being wrong and never admitting it until it is too late.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
6. Right now the popular margin is 57-43. If that margin carries over into delegates,
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:13 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie will get 49 and Hillary 39.

DO THE MATH.

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
17. a sanders landslide in ca is all he needs
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:27 AM
Apr 2016

she has not done well in the west

time will tell

i like the math

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
23. Lovely invite, but I live across the big pond, so will most likely
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:57 AM
Apr 2016

have to stream Hillary's acceptance speech on-line.

Thanks anyway!

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
10. Yeah and the BBC worked overtime to undermine Jeremy Corbin when he was running for
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:17 AM
Apr 2016

leader of the Labor Party too. Lots of jokes, snarky comments, etc. All the mainstream media in the UK joined in that exercise as did the Labor Party organization as well. Too bad - the people elected Jeremy Corbin as leader of the Labor Party despite the concentrated attempt by the powers that be to keep him out.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
11. Can't wait to see Jeremy carry the country in the next GE!
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:20 AM
Apr 2016

NOT! He is unelectable, just like Bernie.

Watch for the looming leadership challenge.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
12. Black families that live outside of the south still have family in the south
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:23 AM
Apr 2016

Speaking ill of southern blacks is a big no no. Second, modern Black Americans can never equate what slavery really was. My great-father, rest his soul use to tell us horror stories. To them, any "white" meant pain and suffering and total disrespect.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
18. Precisely, the ties that bind are still there...no matter how many generations
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:28 AM
Apr 2016

ago their descendants came north. The Southern black culture is alive and well in many northern big city neighborhoods.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
13. The BBC has been doing the "math, math, math" thing for a while
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:24 AM
Apr 2016

Even when Sanders wins, the first thing they always seem to say is "but it will do little for Sanders' huge delegate deficit."

 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
15. Careful. That factual thing called math doesn't go well over here.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:26 AM
Apr 2016

I mean for a crew that understands the science of climate change I don't understand not knowing the reality of math. Thats not a dig at Bernie Sanders at all either but when did math become a bad thing. Its not a talking point. ITS WHAT IT IS!!!! Its how Obama won in 2008. He built that early lead and Clinton simply couldn't catch him.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
19. By George I believe you've got it
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:34 AM
Apr 2016


in 2008, HRC could not catch up with Pres O's pledged delegate count also she was winning the popular votes. Now, as fate may have it, HRC in for the win!

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
16. "when you talk about ghettos traditionally, what you talk about is African-American communities. "
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:27 AM
Apr 2016
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
22. How's that Cornel West surrogacy goin', Bern?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 03:54 AM
Apr 2016

Duh, the tone-deafness is remarkable.

And now, there's Nina Turner tellin' her peeps that, if they support Hillary, they're slavery-lovin' sellouts.

You can't make this stuff up.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
24. That patois is really infectious, innit?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 04:07 AM
Apr 2016

You probably can't help yourself. It's happened before.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
26. Has it?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 04:18 AM
Apr 2016

Full Definition of patois

plural pa·tois play -ˌtwäz


1
a : a dialect other than the standard or literary dialect b : uneducated or provincial speech

2
: the characteristic special language of an occupational or social group : jargon

Dropping one's Gs is a "patois"? I DID NOT KNOW THAT! LOL!

That all ya' got?

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
27. Your response is a perfect example of 1.b.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 04:27 AM
Apr 2016

As I said, it's catching.

You poor thing.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
28. Save your concern for more deserving subjects, i.e. the poor
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 04:33 AM
Apr 2016

dupes who keep sending in their 27 bucks.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
42. Be sure to tell your frie-- er, peeps.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:56 PM
Apr 2016

You've missed the point from the start, no doubt deliberately.

What a laugh.

Bad Dog

(2,044 posts)
46. Late?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 05:48 PM
Apr 2016

That video dates from the 80s. If you're going to reference Harry Enfield you could be a bit more up to date.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
47. One trick pony, you are.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 05:55 PM
Apr 2016

Feign ignorance, post a video.

Excuse me, make that two.

ys;dw

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
49. On occasion.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:43 PM
Apr 2016

I do tend to excuse myself from conversations with people once it's become clear they're incapable of grasping the most obvious points, however, like right here.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
36. No--you tried for an accusation that was race-based, and you fell short.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:00 AM
Apr 2016

Dropping a G is as common to the fictional Arthur Fonzarelli as it is to "Nina."

You're the "poor thing" in this equation, because what you just tried to do was ugly and wrong.

Of course, we see what you're up to every time your signature line pops up. You like to goad and bait--and it's obvious. That's ugly and wrong, too.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
39. Oh, stop it, will you?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:43 AM
Apr 2016

I did nothing of the sort, and you know it. Yours was a reach if I've ever read one.

As to my sig line, I think it's important to inform everyone what sorts of views are held by some people here, and how they're allowed to circulate despite hide after hide after hide.

Please direct your nonsensical complaints to the management. I'll abide by their decision. In the mean time, don't blame me if a gentle reminder makes you uncomfortable. Grow up.

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