2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBBC Headline: "For Bernie, it's momentum versus MATHS..." LOL! Gotta love the Brits' humour...
For Mr Sanders every delegate counts if he wants to catch Mrs Clinton - a formidable task given the sizable lead she built up by routing the Vermont senator in contests across the South last month.
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Mr Sanders, if his recent string of victories is to be anything more than a political footnote, will need to attract black and Hispanic votes in numbers he has yet achieve. If he can do that, then the narrative in this race stops being Mrs Clinton's inevitability and becomes a question of whether the front-runner can hang on.
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If New York is the key, however, Mr Sanders's campaign there may be stumbling out of the gate. Today he received a raft of negative press for an interview he gave with the editorial board of the Daily News, a New York City newspaper, that critics say exposes his thin grasp on the issues - and foreign policy in particular.
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"We've said for a long time that this primary is about who's really going to be able to get things done," the Clinton campaign said in a news release on Tuesday night. "And from reading this interview, you get the impression Senator Sanders hasn't thought very much about that."
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-35975079
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Excellent reality check from the British press.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)LOL.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)UMTerp01
(1,048 posts)PA, NY, MD (where I live) will have more of a Black electorate percentage than Wisconsin so unless the whole "once Black people learn of Bernie they will be for him" thing actually starts translating, I don't see how he catches Hillary in the pledged delegate count. Being in MD and listening to Black talk radio, you're seeing pretty much the same thing with Black voters. Younger Blacks are more for Bernie but still mostly for Hillary. Older Blacks, particularly older Black women are solidly Hillary Clinton.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)He's shaping up to be a disaster on wheels, not to mention that Rep. from Ohio and her "slavery" analogy.
UMTerp01
(1,048 posts)I mean what a dumb ass statement. Cornel West (aka Mr. Anti-Obama) being a Sanders surrogate has pissed off a lot of Black people I know. Then you have Susan Sarandon's recent comments. She lives in a reality that most people do not, particularly Black people. Then Nina Turner's comments were just stupid. Tell Black people why Sanders is good for Black people. Don't denigrate them to make your point about your candidate.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)... really bad taste.
angrychair
(12,278 posts)Like that Clinton surrogate that said women that don't vote for Clinton will burn in Hell. Good times.
That other one that said young women vote for Sanders because men tell them too. Funny, right?
How about that time in 2008 when the Clinton campaign sent out a photo of Obama in traditional Solmali grab in a "not like us" meme. Classy, am I right.
Remember when Clinton herself answered questions by playing it sly when answering if he was born in America or really a Christian or not. Politics, huh?
MADem
(135,425 posts)The guy managed to disrespect Asian-Pacific Islanders and black people in ONE SENTENCE!!!
Shit, George Bush should have hired him to run FEMA, because that was just a HECKUVAJOB, Timmy!!!
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)beedle
(1,235 posts)
Which group is more likely to remain as Democratic voters if their supported candidate is no longer in the race?
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)secure the nomination.
As for understanding issues: he foresaw the Panama disaster in 2011. Clinton was touting it. He voted against the IWR. Clinton voted to give King George his blank check to play real-life stratego and turn Iraq into a terrorist hellhole. She then went on to do a bit of regime change in Libya, because she wanted to show that she, too, can play with soldiers.
She is a two-trick pony: war and greed. I'll take his judgement over her "experience" any day: her experience consists of being wrong and never admitting it until it is too late.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Bernie will get 49 and Hillary 39.
DO THE MATH.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)she has not done well in the west
time will tell
i like the math
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)see you in philly this summer
i will buy dinner
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)have to stream Hillary's acceptance speech on-line.
Thanks anyway!
MADem
(135,425 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)bjo59
(1,166 posts)leader of the Labor Party too. Lots of jokes, snarky comments, etc. All the mainstream media in the UK joined in that exercise as did the Labor Party organization as well. Too bad - the people elected Jeremy Corbin as leader of the Labor Party despite the concentrated attempt by the powers that be to keep him out.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)NOT! He is unelectable, just like Bernie.
Watch for the looming leadership challenge.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Speaking ill of southern blacks is a big no no. Second, modern Black Americans can never equate what slavery really was. My great-father, rest his soul use to tell us horror stories. To them, any "white" meant pain and suffering and total disrespect.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)ago their descendants came north. The Southern black culture is alive and well in many northern big city neighborhoods.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Even when Sanders wins, the first thing they always seem to say is "but it will do little for Sanders' huge delegate deficit."
UMTerp01
(1,048 posts)I mean for a crew that understands the science of climate change I don't understand not knowing the reality of math. Thats not a dig at Bernie Sanders at all either but when did math become a bad thing. Its not a talking point. ITS WHAT IT IS!!!! Its how Obama won in 2008. He built that early lead and Clinton simply couldn't catch him.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)in 2008, HRC could not catch up with Pres O's pledged delegate count also she was winning the popular votes. Now, as fate may have it, HRC in for the win!
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Duh, the tone-deafness is remarkable.
And now, there's Nina Turner tellin' her peeps that, if they support Hillary, they're slavery-lovin' sellouts.
You can't make this stuff up.
bvf
(6,604 posts)You probably can't help yourself. It's happened before.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Full Definition of patois
plural pa·tois play -ˌtwäz
1
a : a dialect other than the standard or literary dialect b : uneducated or provincial speech
2
: the characteristic special language of an occupational or social group : jargon
Dropping one's Gs is a "patois"? I DID NOT KNOW THAT! LOL!
That all ya' got?
bvf
(6,604 posts)As I said, it's catching.
You poor thing.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)dupes who keep sending in their 27 bucks.
marmar
(79,733 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)A lot of people drop their gs over here. It's fairly common.
In written speech.
Yo.
Still doesn't make it jargon, just more naturalistic.
bvf
(6,604 posts)You've missed the point from the start, no doubt deliberately.
What a laugh.
bvf
(6,604 posts)Congratulations on your ability to post a video.
ys;dw
That video dates from the 80s. If you're going to reference Harry Enfield you could be a bit more up to date.
bvf
(6,604 posts)Feign ignorance, post a video.
Excuse me, make that two.
ys;dw
Bad Dog
(2,044 posts)I do tend to excuse myself from conversations with people once it's become clear they're incapable of grasping the most obvious points, however, like right here.
Bad Dog
(2,044 posts)I'm really quite captivated by your pithiness.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Dropping a G is as common to the fictional Arthur Fonzarelli as it is to "Nina."
You're the "poor thing" in this equation, because what you just tried to do was ugly and wrong.
Of course, we see what you're up to every time your signature line pops up. You like to goad and bait--and it's obvious. That's ugly and wrong, too.
bvf
(6,604 posts)I did nothing of the sort, and you know it. Yours was a reach if I've ever read one.
As to my sig line, I think it's important to inform everyone what sorts of views are held by some people here, and how they're allowed to circulate despite hide after hide after hide.
Please direct your nonsensical complaints to the management. I'll abide by their decision. In the mean time, don't blame me if a gentle reminder makes you uncomfortable. Grow up.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)