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babylonsister

(172,759 posts)
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:35 AM Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders wins – again – and the Clinton Media Network tweaks

http://smokinghotpoliticaljunkies.com/bernie-sanders-wins-again-and-the-clinton-media-network-tweaks/

Bernie Sanders wins – again – and the Clinton Media Network tweaks


Tonight, Bernie Sanders beat Hillary Clinton in Wisconsin, by double digits. Does it significantly change the delegate count? Depends on how you’re viewing it. Does it change the tenor of the race? You bet. Does it put more wind at Bernie Sanders’ back going forward in the next half a dozen primaries? Absolutely.

Except, the mainstream media hasn’t caught on yet to this phenomenon. They’re stuck in repeat mode, making excuses and having sads.

The Daily Beast: Bernie Sanders Wins Wisconsin, Changes Nothing

Slate: Bernie Sanders Claims Big Win in Wisconsin, Faces Tough Road Ahead

Mashable: Bernie Sanders will probably win Wisconsin. It won’t matter much.

Washington Post: Sanders wins in Wisconsin, keeping alive his improbable bid for the nomination

Politico: Sanders blows by Clinton in Wisconsin: He’s won seven of the past eight contests, but will it matter?

And then there’s Fox, just about the only major network to report this:

Bernie Sanders beats Hillary Clinton in Wisconsin: It’s about authenticity, stupid
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Bernie Sanders wins – again – and the Clinton Media Network tweaks (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2016 OP
I live in bizarro world Joob Apr 2016 #1
What will they do RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #2
So many news outlets lining up to sacrafice their credibility on the altar of Hillary, GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #3
I's good to know who our friends are. anothergreenbus Apr 2016 #11
It's a weird rare day hereforthevoting Apr 2016 #4
Yeah, the media is totally in the tank for Clinton BainsBane Apr 2016 #5
+1 He was about 3% below Nate's minimum that he needed Lucinda Apr 2016 #8
I agree the media's job should be to inform....But they feel they need to create narritives Armstead Apr 2016 #10
You're right about the media being in the tank. anothergreenbus Apr 2016 #12
Let's see a spreadsheet showing state by state how many votes Sanders is behind. mhatrw Apr 2016 #17
Bern Path al bupp Apr 2016 #35
Thanks! nt mhatrw Apr 2016 #36
Hillary needs to drop out so the party can unite behind the liberal candidate. B Calm Apr 2016 #6
LOL Lucinda Apr 2016 #9
How about naming her Secretary of Integrity? anothergreenbus Apr 2016 #13
Here's my favorite paulthompson Apr 2016 #7
Its called reality which many Bernie supporters on this site seem not to understand. DCBob Apr 2016 #14
It is an amusingly sad day when Camp Sanders turns to Faux News for their "authentic" reporting. Tarc Apr 2016 #15
No, it's fairly pathetic babylonsister Apr 2016 #16
as friendly as she is with Rupert Murdoch reddread Apr 2016 #18
You'd have a point, if Faux News was actually right Tarc Apr 2016 #19
Could you possibly be any more ridiculous? Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #20
Oh, poor little you Tarc Apr 2016 #22
Wait, you actually think I saw Fox as caring about Sanders? Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #23
As long as you continue to claim "Fox got this one right" Tarc Apr 2016 #24
By you? I'd have to have an iota of respect for the critic to give even a single fuck. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #25
Ho-hum Tarc Apr 2016 #26
Eyes glazing over at the big words? Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #27
Wait until fake news starts vetting BS then we will see the total 180 degree Iliyah Apr 2016 #28
Fox News is the enemy! We have always been at war with Fox News! Tarc Apr 2016 #30
Fake news is still the number one propaganda machine Iliyah Apr 2016 #33
You missed Chuck Toad. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #21
Before Bernie winning it was he has to win this he has to or doomsday...then bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #29
Truly an eye opener Red Oak Apr 2016 #31
Slate was at least realistic. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2016 #32
Please don't blame voter suppression issues on the Dems, especially HRC. Iliyah Apr 2016 #34

GreatGazoo

(4,612 posts)
3. So many news outlets lining up to sacrafice their credibility on the altar of Hillary,
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:48 AM
Apr 2016

so little time left to do so.

 

anothergreenbus

(110 posts)
11. I's good to know who our friends are.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:16 AM
Apr 2016

Actually we have no friends in the media.
Even so call progressive blogs who now seem to be on the take.

hereforthevoting

(241 posts)
4. It's a weird rare day
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:48 AM
Apr 2016

When Fox makes the most sense out of all of them.

Further, when they actually make a valid point in the headline.





Heck, just a few months ago I would read the HECK out of the Daily Beast. Oooops.

BainsBane

(57,757 posts)
5. Yeah, the media is totally in the tank for Clinton
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:55 AM
Apr 2016


The facts really aren't that complicated. Bernie did very well last night, but even so he didn't hit the targets he needs to catch up to Clinton's lead. You see, he's already really far behind. He cut into her 263 earned delegate lead by about 10-13. Certainly better than a loss, but not enough to make up for how far behind he is. Silver says he needs something like 58% of the vote from here on out to catch up. It's better than 64%, where he was on March 15, so he's gained ground, but he still faces an enormous uphill battle to win the nomination.

That presumably doesn't matter to you as much as what you seem to believe is the press' responsibility to make you feel better.
Their job is to report the news. Not coddle supporters of a candidate who trails by some 2.5 million votes. In fact, their job isn't to coddle anyone. That people expect the news to affirm their emotional views is one of the reasons cable "news" has become such complete crap.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
8. +1 He was about 3% below Nate's minimum that he needed
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:08 AM
Apr 2016

So yeah, it is certainly not bad for Bernie, but not anything that changes the race.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
10. I agree the media's job should be to inform....But they feel they need to create narritives
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:10 AM
Apr 2016

They try to create self-fulfilling prophecies. If the supporters of a candidate are relentlessly told their candidate has no chance, it can depress turnout.

Rather than so much breathless ego driven and inbred horse race coverage, they should be giving voters more chance to see and evaluate the candidates for themselves.

 

anothergreenbus

(110 posts)
12. You're right about the media being in the tank.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:22 AM
Apr 2016

Actually according to 538 Bernie exceeded his necessary delegates for Wisconsin. If the pattern continues, he will win. Clinton is bailing her sinking ship as fast as she can while the media cheers her on. Just another bailout.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
17. Let's see a spreadsheet showing state by state how many votes Sanders is behind.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:12 AM
Apr 2016

link?

 

anothergreenbus

(110 posts)
13. How about naming her Secretary of Integrity?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:28 AM
Apr 2016

She pushed through the Panama trade deal for Obama. I wonder how much money the Clintons have stashed off shore?

paulthompson

(2,398 posts)
7. Here's my favorite
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:04 AM
Apr 2016

From the Guardian, of all places. It's the headline right now:

"Sanders beats Clinton as Cruz crushes Trump"

The funny thing about that, and I just checked the numbers right now, is that Sander's margin of victory was 13.4 points while Cruz's margin of victory was 13.2 points. So I guess "beating" is more impressive than "crushing" these days!

Tarc

(10,601 posts)
15. It is an amusingly sad day when Camp Sanders turns to Faux News for their "authentic" reporting.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:33 AM
Apr 2016





babylonsister

(172,759 posts)
16. No, it's fairly pathetic
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:40 AM
Apr 2016

when faux news gets it right and leaves the other sites in the dust.

Tarc

(10,601 posts)
19. You'd have a point, if Faux News was actually right
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:35 AM
Apr 2016

WI was one of the last open primary states, so the clock is about to strike midnight for Sanderella...

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
20. Could you possibly be any more ridiculous?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:40 AM
Apr 2016

ProTip: that's called a "rhetorical" question; no need to demonstrate that you actually can.

We've understood from the get-go that most of the corporate media is in the bag for Princess Weathervane. Fox got this one right only because it has no dog in the Democratic fight.

Tarc

(10,601 posts)
22. Oh, poor little you
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:45 AM
Apr 2016

5 respectable news outlets say one thing, 1 says the opposite, and the one is the one that has for years been derided, ridiculed, and dismissed by Democrats.

For Christs sake, wake the $%^@ up. Faux News doesn't give a damn about Sanders, his chances against Clinton, or any of that. They post a story propping him up because the longer the Democratic primary is contested, the better it is for their conservative viewers and financiers.

You are the exact kind of Sanders supporters that they hoped to dupe.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
23. Wait, you actually think I saw Fox as caring about Sanders?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:55 AM
Apr 2016

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha...

Trust me, sweetcheeks, I know exactly why they elected to post that headline. I also know exactly why the other corporate "news" outlets chose to report the latest Sanders win in the manner they did, an awareness you seem to lack. The spectacular irony of you telling me to "wake the fuck up" is, well...spectacular.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
25. By you? I'd have to have an iota of respect for the critic to give even a single fuck.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:10 AM
Apr 2016

Believe me, that's not in the cards.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
27. Eyes glazing over at the big words?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:12 AM
Apr 2016

Dang it...and I thought I was being careful about writing for my audience here.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
28. Wait until fake news starts vetting BS then we will see the total 180 degree
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:21 AM
Apr 2016

turn around. It's only called Clinton's News bs when a tiny tiny tiny portion is somewhat pointing to a somewhat favorable or factual info. Majority of the time they are 24/7 negative against HRC but hey that ok.

Tarc

(10,601 posts)
30. Fox News is the enemy! We have always been at war with Fox News!
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:31 AM
Apr 2016

The lack of self-awareness in some of these people is amazing.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
21. You missed Chuck Toad.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:43 AM
Apr 2016

He is proud of how his staff can turn a Bernie victory into a defeat. Graphics and all.

He really is revolting at times.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
29. Before Bernie winning it was he has to win this he has to or doomsday...then
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:25 AM
Apr 2016

when he wins ...oh she will be the nominee (no credit for his win) she will be the nominee over and over...and the new one that Clinton must have given orders to the networks....she is the front runner she is the front runner she is the front runner....are you getting sleepy....

Red Oak

(699 posts)
31. Truly an eye opener
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:36 AM
Apr 2016

We think we get "news", we think the Democratic party as it exists today is for the little guy.

It is just propaganda.

People are now seeing what consolidation of corporate owned media looks like. People are seeing what the Democratic establishment looks like.

Too bad Hillary hasn't released those transcripts yet. Couple those with the Panama Papers and you would see the true underbelly of our "for the people" Democratic Party.

Bernie would be a breath of fresh air.

Go Bernie!

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
32. Slate was at least realistic.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:36 AM
Apr 2016

His entire run has been a tough road, and it will stay that way up until the very last state to vote. Even if he wins, it's going to be a photo finish, nose and nose. Which means the establishment will be looking for even more ways to stack the deck against non-establishment candidates in future. Even more delegates to conservative states, fewer to liberal states, with some cheap excuse as to why they need to reallocate. Even more supers, perhaps. Greater pushes for early voting to lock down votes before insurgent campaigns have a chance to talk to voters, teamed up with on the day voter suppression, since that's working so well this year. More voter ID laws to disenfranchise the most liberal of voters. Anything and everything to shut the liberal end of the spectrum out of the process while making it easy for the conservative end.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
34. Please don't blame voter suppression issues on the Dems, especially HRC.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:45 AM
Apr 2016

As to delegates per state, I doubt that will happen.

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