2016 Postmortem
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Tonight, Bernie Sanders beat Hillary Clinton in Wisconsin, by double digits. Does it significantly change the delegate count? Depends on how youre viewing it. Does it change the tenor of the race? You bet. Does it put more wind at Bernie Sanders back going forward in the next half a dozen primaries? Absolutely.
Except, the mainstream media hasnt caught on yet to this phenomenon. Theyre stuck in repeat mode, making excuses and having sads.
Slate: Bernie Sanders Claims Big Win in Wisconsin, Faces Tough Road Ahead
Mashable: Bernie Sanders will probably win Wisconsin. It wont matter much.
Washington Post: Sanders wins in Wisconsin, keeping alive his improbable bid for the nomination
Politico: Sanders blows by Clinton in Wisconsin: Hes won seven of the past eight contests, but will it matter?
And then theres Fox, just about the only major network to report this:
Bernie Sanders beats Hillary Clinton in Wisconsin: Its about authenticity, stupid
Joob
(1,065 posts)Fox gets it right
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)When Bernie wins New York?
GreatGazoo
(4,612 posts)so little time left to do so.
anothergreenbus
(110 posts)Actually we have no friends in the media.
Even so call progressive blogs who now seem to be on the take.
hereforthevoting
(241 posts)When Fox makes the most sense out of all of them.
Further, when they actually make a valid point in the headline.
Heck, just a few months ago I would read the HECK out of the Daily Beast. Oooops.
BainsBane
(57,757 posts)The facts really aren't that complicated. Bernie did very well last night, but even so he didn't hit the targets he needs to catch up to Clinton's lead. You see, he's already really far behind. He cut into her 263 earned delegate lead by about 10-13. Certainly better than a loss, but not enough to make up for how far behind he is. Silver says he needs something like 58% of the vote from here on out to catch up. It's better than 64%, where he was on March 15, so he's gained ground, but he still faces an enormous uphill battle to win the nomination.
That presumably doesn't matter to you as much as what you seem to believe is the press' responsibility to make you feel better.
Their job is to report the news. Not coddle supporters of a candidate who trails by some 2.5 million votes. In fact, their job isn't to coddle anyone. That people expect the news to affirm their emotional views is one of the reasons cable "news" has become such complete crap.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)So yeah, it is certainly not bad for Bernie, but not anything that changes the race.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)They try to create self-fulfilling prophecies. If the supporters of a candidate are relentlessly told their candidate has no chance, it can depress turnout.
Rather than so much breathless ego driven and inbred horse race coverage, they should be giving voters more chance to see and evaluate the candidates for themselves.
anothergreenbus
(110 posts)Actually according to 538 Bernie exceeded his necessary delegates for Wisconsin. If the pattern continues, he will win. Clinton is bailing her sinking ship as fast as she can while the media cheers her on. Just another bailout.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)link?
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)anothergreenbus
(110 posts)She pushed through the Panama trade deal for Obama. I wonder how much money the Clintons have stashed off shore?
paulthompson
(2,398 posts)From the Guardian, of all places. It's the headline right now:
"Sanders beats Clinton as Cruz crushes Trump"
The funny thing about that, and I just checked the numbers right now, is that Sander's margin of victory was 13.4 points while Cruz's margin of victory was 13.2 points. So I guess "beating" is more impressive than "crushing" these days!
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Tarc
(10,601 posts)babylonsister
(172,759 posts)when faux news gets it right and leaves the other sites in the dust.
reddread
(6,896 posts)what has she promised the rest of them?
Tarc
(10,601 posts)WI was one of the last open primary states, so the clock is about to strike midnight for Sanderella...
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)ProTip: that's called a "rhetorical" question; no need to demonstrate that you actually can.
We've understood from the get-go that most of the corporate media is in the bag for Princess Weathervane. Fox got this one right only because it has no dog in the Democratic fight.
Tarc
(10,601 posts)5 respectable news outlets say one thing, 1 says the opposite, and the one is the one that has for years been derided, ridiculed, and dismissed by Democrats.
For Christs sake, wake the $%^@ up. Faux News doesn't give a damn about Sanders, his chances against Clinton, or any of that. They post a story propping him up because the longer the Democratic primary is contested, the better it is for their conservative viewers and financiers.
You are the exact kind of Sanders supporters that they hoped to dupe.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha...
Trust me, sweetcheeks, I know exactly why they elected to post that headline. I also know exactly why the other corporate "news" outlets chose to report the latest Sanders win in the manner they did, an awareness you seem to lack. The spectacular irony of you telling me to "wake the fuck up" is, well...spectacular.
Tarc
(10,601 posts)You will be ridiculed.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Believe me, that's not in the cards.
Tarc
(10,601 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Dang it...and I thought I was being careful about writing for my audience here.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)turn around. It's only called Clinton's News bs when a tiny tiny tiny portion is somewhat pointing to a somewhat favorable or factual info. Majority of the time they are 24/7 negative against HRC but hey that ok.
Tarc
(10,601 posts)The lack of self-awareness in some of these people is amazing.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)He is proud of how his staff can turn a Bernie victory into a defeat. Graphics and all.
He really is revolting at times.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)when he wins ...oh she will be the nominee (no credit for his win) she will be the nominee over and over...and the new one that Clinton must have given orders to the networks....she is the front runner she is the front runner she is the front runner....are you getting sleepy....
Red Oak
(699 posts)We think we get "news", we think the Democratic party as it exists today is for the little guy.
It is just propaganda.
People are now seeing what consolidation of corporate owned media looks like. People are seeing what the Democratic establishment looks like.
Too bad Hillary hasn't released those transcripts yet. Couple those with the Panama Papers and you would see the true underbelly of our "for the people" Democratic Party.
Bernie would be a breath of fresh air.
Go Bernie!
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)His entire run has been a tough road, and it will stay that way up until the very last state to vote. Even if he wins, it's going to be a photo finish, nose and nose. Which means the establishment will be looking for even more ways to stack the deck against non-establishment candidates in future. Even more delegates to conservative states, fewer to liberal states, with some cheap excuse as to why they need to reallocate. Even more supers, perhaps. Greater pushes for early voting to lock down votes before insurgent campaigns have a chance to talk to voters, teamed up with on the day voter suppression, since that's working so well this year. More voter ID laws to disenfranchise the most liberal of voters. Anything and everything to shut the liberal end of the spectrum out of the process while making it easy for the conservative end.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)As to delegates per state, I doubt that will happen.