I am shocked that my wife just said this:

[Democratopia]

Obama is a communist, he goes around the world apologizing and he wants America to be like Europe.

We have been married nearly three years, and although I know she's a Republican, I have never heard her say things like that before. I am appalled every time I hear somebody says those things. I think I am going crazy.

[Cane4Dems]

1. please correct her!

ask her to produce evidence

[Democratopia]

54. I do and she can't!

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. I'm sorry, but I think your wife has been drinking the koolaid.

[Hutzpa]

15. Don't you just hate these

husband, wife, sister, brother, uncle, aunt, cousin, friend, sister-in-law, brother-in-law, uncle-in-law, mother-in-law, neighbor's dog statement?

[JNelson6563]

91. Yes, just like "concern" posts.

If you're just "reporting" what those around you say, it's just observation, not an anti-Dem statement, right?

[Democratopia]

111. Meaning? Are you calling me a liar?

[JNelson6563]

137. Anything is possible.

I am not familiar enough with your posts to know.

Just thought I'd throw out the observation regarding how some with less than good intentions operate sometimes.

Maybe you're one, maybe you're not.

Julie--who won't be kicking this BS thread again so don't expect future replies

[Union Label]

143. Yes it's possible

I have a rush and beck loving idiot in my immediate Family, thankfully the rest of us are sane.

[kardonb]

26. politics....

she was just quoting (verbatim) cray Todd Aikin's line .

[BlueDemKev]

3. I feel sorry for you.

[SCliberal091294]

4. Don't let her

vote. I expect by next election that you will be able to turn her into a democrat.

[Democratopia]

55. I can't control what she does, nor do I want to!

[nobunnyclue]

106. I hate to say it...

... but there is a contingent of women who just don't like Obama this cycle. When they can't pin down a criticism, they fall back on one of the tar brushes that they have heard on talk radio, TV, or from water-cooler secretary talk. I've heard women call him a socialist, communist, liar, murdered, terrorist, etc. etc. It's always ad hominem attacks that don't have much basis in with reality, and that more than anything is what I find upsetting - whether Romney wins or loses, there is a contingent of morons ready to line up an support the next charismatic guy to come along, enthrone said person as head of the most powerful military in the world, and set the stage for some really bad history repeating itself!

[Ineeda]

125. It's insulting to relegate the irrationality as gender-specific.

"A contingent of women"????????? This insanity crosses gender lines.

[Cal33]

129. Yes, and I read that there are far more women voting for Obama than men. nt

[Frank Cannon]

5. I think you and your wife...

Need to get to know each other better.

[MissNostalgia]

6. Did you marry young?

??

[Democratopia]

56. No, We dated for 5 years!

[seabeyond]

7. uh oh. took ten years for hubby to start voting dem. kerry and obama twice.

it can happen.

[lumpy]

32. My husband, after about 10 years and lots of political discussion, finally saw the

light also. I gave him an historical/political education he was badly in need of, seriously.

[Democratopia]

57. Thanks. That gives me hope!

[DRoseDARs]

8. Pull a Chris Mathews on her: Ask her to define "communist" and watch her sputter. nt

[AspenRose]

34. "Study it out!" LOL.

[dmr]

39. Achhhhh ....

[berni_mccoy]

120. LFMAO That was awesome. My son watched that and was stunned an adult could be that stupid.

I informed him that yes, it's true, adults can be idiots.

[Democratopia]

58. I did and she said he wants to redtribute wealth!

I said that was not the definition and Romney want to redistribute wealth - from the poor to the rich.

[MADem]

9. Obviously politics aren't central to your relationship. Or they weren't.

I can't imagine being married to someone who doesn't share my political/social justice perspective.

I don't envy you.

[marlakay]

28. I have a good friend married to republican

For 30 years...only since things have gotten so divided last ten years has it been a problem. He is a moderate.

She said when they were young sex was hot and they didn't talk politics at all, they hike together and ski still do...

[MADem]

38. I suppose everyone has their own way of relating to others.

I think words and ideas are "core" to a relationship. "Doing stuff" is fun but not nearly as meaningful to my mind...but hey, different strokes for different folks.

[Democratopia]

113. Well my wife and I have many things in common, many interests are the same and we

always have a lot to talk about other than politics. She has very little interest in politics but has strong opinions that are more like a faith than based on reality.

[Democratopia]

59. It is difficult, because she refuses to talk about it.

[Walk away]

10. Your first mistake was marrying Ann Coulter! nt

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

11. Tell her you were planning on taking her on a romantic trip to Europe

but cancelled the tickets when you discovered how she feels about them over there.

[Democratopia]

60. I am from Europe, so imagine how what she said went down!

[Politicalboi]

12. Tell her the female leader of Teabaggers says

Women shouldn't vote. Convince your wife that the Tea lady is right.

[Pakid]

13. Take some advice from an old guy

Never ever marry a Republican unless you are one.

[Democratopia]

61. Advice too late! But thanks!

[demosincebirth]

14. Know a good lawyer?

[Drunken Irishman]

16. Divorce her.

[berni_mccoy]

121. Was thinking it...

but wasn't going to say it

[CoffeeCat]

17. You aren't married to a woman...

...with big glasses, a really bad 80's haircut and a penchant for saying, "Study it out! Study it out!" all the time, are you???

[Daniel138]

18. You married Ann Coulter??

[TexasBushwhacker]

19. Well Mary Matalin and James Carville have been married 19 years

They say politics is off limits at home. I figure they must have great sex.

[krawhitham]

44. and Carville has not been relevant in 19 years

1992 was the last time he did anything worth a shit

[lunatica]

98. Only if sex is the substitute for talking politics and they like it rough

Fuck! I just grossed myself out!

[CTyankee]

112. gawd, that must be a freak show...

[Floyd_Gondolli]

20. I'll never understand why people marry Republicans

It would be a deal breaker for me and has been a deal breaker in the past. That being said you've got to educate her and turn her away from the dark side. It can be done.

[Democratopia]

62. I would have said the same, but I still loved her!

[Dustlawyer]

21. If apologizing for our troops urinating on dead Muslims, whatever she wants to call it, I am guilty

too! Our politics have gotten waaay out of hand. Why can't we have frank discussion about the issues? Because we cannot even agree on what the facts are! Our media, which use OUR airwaves, produce nothing but propaganda. When I was young, we used to hear about how bad TASS, or whatever the Soviet media was called then, lied to the Soviet people. I could never have imagined it would happen here, but we have taken it to a new level. The powers that be do this intentionally b/c they OWN the media! They loot our tax dollars from the government no matter who is in office. Get your wife to sit with you, and you two start with what are the facts and go from there. Good luck!

[Democratopia]

64. I appreciate your reply. I agree with what you say,

but she is brainwashed and won't even listen to another side.

[mnhtnbb]

22. Better put a lock on Faux News or your marriage is going to be in trouble.

[Democratopia]

65. She never watches the news except at her parents!

[ancianita]

136. You need to tell her to grow up and separate from her parents' info bubble.

Give her at least three to five other ways -- you can come up with something -- to regularly keep a "connection" with her parents. Very likely they are using this political bubble they share as a loyalty test across family generations. It's pretty common. But you can beat them at this loyalty/love test manipulation, and help her gain a grasp on the larger reality of being an adult daughter with them, not just their past idea of a daughter. Think on this.

[VPStoltz]

23. That's the kind of stuff Recons when they are so seething with hatred they can't see straight.

[genna]

24. It is going to be a long night for your marriage on Nov 6th

Either way, you'll be screwed.

[Democratopia]

66. Yes, I want Obama to win for personal reasons too!

[rightsideout]

25. But Europe isn't Communist . . .

. . . and Communists don't apologize.

[Democratopia]

67. Yep. She said she was talking about Greece.

I said what about Germany, Switzerland, Norway, Sweeden, Belgium, Luxemburg. She said those don't count!

[GCP]

87. What about the UK, France, Spain, Portugal

I could go on. I'm sorry for you.

[Baitball Blogger]

27. Unless our country gets better than it has been in the last twelve years,

you two are in for some rough times.

[Democratopia]

68. I believe things are going to get better! They have to!

[IrishSean723]

29. Yikes.

She better be ridiculously hot.

[svpadgham]

30. Ugh.

[SunSeeker]

42. LOL nt

[renate]

48. what a PERFECT use of that quote!

That's wonderful!

[MrsCorleone]

31. I am so sorry, Democratopia.

Married to a Fox News republican?

(((Shudders)))

That's gotta be rough.

Hang in there.

[Democratopia]

69. Thank you very much.

[woolldog]

33. They've gotten to her.

So sorry.

[Democratopia]

70. It feels like that. I knew zombies were a metaphor!

[AspenRose]

35. You aren't alone - my husband's a republican

2004 was hell.

2008 he didn't even vote.

I feel your pain.

[budkin]

52. You guys should swap!

:lol

[Democratopia]

72. Thank you. My condolences to you too.

[MFM008]

36. you know i hate to be small

but I dont have any friends or family that disagrees with me about pollitics and I dont want any. These beliefs go to the core of someones character. If you believe in someone like Romney we have nothing to discuss. Im to old to waste what time I have left trying to talk a zombie out of biting my leg off.

[Democratopia]

75. I am usually like that too.

[lonestarnot]

37. You have a batshit crazy wife. It is no wonder you have gone crazy. For better or for worse.

I know some damn good divorce attornies.

[Democratopia]

76. Thanks! Her whole family are like that.

[TexasTowelie]

89. Then you can divorce her family too! nt

[lonestarnot]

109. LOL.

[Democratopia]

116. I am not divorcing her! But I wish I could divorce her family!

They drive me crazy. I could tell you stories about them that would make your teeth go curly.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

40. Time To Get A New Wife/nt

[niyad]

41. welcome to DU--why in the HELL would you marry a republican?????

stick around. this place has kept what little is left of my sanity intact for lo these many years, and maybe it will help you, too.

[Democratopia]

77. I appreciate that. Thank you.

[krawhitham]

43. It is time to find a new wife

Seriously don't put yourself through this for the rest of your life. You will live longer

[Democratopia]

78. But I enjoy a challenge!

[Iris]

94. Or working with the challenged?

[NCLefty]

45. How long did you know here before you got married?

[Democratopia]

79. 5 years. As I say, of course I knew she was a Republican,

but never have I heard her speak like that. I get so mad when I hear Republicans use those phrases. I am shocked by it.

[NCLefty]

85. Well it sounds like you guys don't talk about politics much

And I recommend you continue to not :/

[fujiyama]

46. I have friends of different political stripes

but I don't think I could be in a serious relationship with a right winger of any sort. Likewise, I couldn't deal with someone making such ignorant and idiotic statements.

I can understand politics not being at the core of your relationship, and of course people's politics and ideologies do change over time but as others have mentioned, often times politics do correspond with our world views - of compassion, tolerance, empathy, social justice, and religious beliefs.

I guess it just depends on how big a role politics and current events play in your life, and the impact it has on you and your relationship. How much time do you spend reading about it? How much time do you think about it? Many of us on this site are political junkies, so that would make it doubly difficult to forge a relationship with someone prone to making totally ignorant comments. I can deal with a person not being certain of some particular issue or holding somewhat ambiguous views on certain issues, but willful ignorance and uninformed opinions posed as facts would be a huge turn off for me.

Good luck either way.

[Democratopia]

81. I agree with you, and I am a political junkie myself.

At her core, I have always believed she shares my values, but I also believe she has been brainwashed by the propoganda. Really, she has little interest in politics. I am finding the situation very difficult,

[Kennah]

47. I feel your pain, being in a heteropolitical marriage myself

I've been avoiding saying ANYTHING to my wife on matters of politics. She got out of the shower, I was DUing polls and surfing, and she mentioned jobs going to China, again. I asked if she'd heard about Sensata. No. So I played the video on Youtube. Showed her a couple of articles.

She asked why Obama wasn't bringing it up. Said I didn't know why, and a lot of people are asking that.

I pulled up a CNN video story and played it. In it, they noted that Romney hasn't been with Bain since Sensata was acquired. With that, she responded, "See, see, see. He didn't work there then."

I tried to point out that this is what Bain did. They acquired companies, stripped them down, sold them off, and bankrupted the company.

"But he didn't work there at that time."

It's what they do. Besides, he's a major shareholder in Bain. Didn't matter. The issue was a non-starter for her. Then she blamed the workers of Sensata, and I had to leave the room, or we'd be fighting again.

"Well, they're working for a shitty company, Bain, so it's their fault." I tried to point out that Bain acquired Sensata. The people working for Sensata didn't seek out Bain. Didn't matter. It was done.

Fortunately, if she votes for Romney, her vote will never matter for Romney in Blue Washington state.

[Democratopia]

82. Funny, I had a similar conversation that went the same way.

I said: "Romney owns the company, he makes tens of millions out of it. Imagine if you owned a company and they treated workers like that, you would do something about it." She didn't believe it. She has bought into this idea that the "liberal media" is full of lies. It is a form of brainwashing.

[cliffordu]

49. nice. What else is going on??

[AzNick]

50. My ex wife will vote Romney... issue is my daughters

They are in that period of their life where they believe all that their mom tells them, including that their dad is the devil.

I can't tell you the crap my daughters tell me. Oh, and Arpaio is for the animals... They are 13 (twins).

I could not live with a republican, seriously. My current GF is independent, leans right, but she can't stand Limbaugh and her baby papa, who is a dittohead.

At least we agree on a few things.

[Democratopia]

83. Thanks. I just wish we could at least talk, but she thinks all my opinions

are based on the "liberal media."

[Iris]

93. What does she think hers a based on? Reality?

[budkin]

51. How the hell can you be married to someone like that?

I would be out the door in about a minute.

[Democratopia]

84. Part of me feels like that. It is very difficult.

[Democratopia]

53. Thanks to everyone who replied

She saw me posting this thread and was furious an said I was mean. Well, we had an big argument that lasted five minutes, because I changed the subject and said let's talk about our anniversary plans, before it got out of control. I am shocked, but I know she gets this from her parents. There is no reasoning with her. I have to accept she has been brainwashed.

She can never give any example to support what she says. On every topic she is has a Democratic principle, but thinks Republicans have the best solution. I will never understand her. I accept it because she has no interest in politics and doesn't understand the implications of what she is saying. Yes, it infuriates me. I cannot change her, but I hope one day she will see the light.

I think another four years of Obama will help, as I don't believe she will be able to keep saying he has made things worse. Unemployment rate 7.8% now, it could be 5.8% then. I also think that when Obamacare is providing healthcare for tens of millions more people that it will be hard for her to say that should be taken away. I think the majority will think that.
Thank you for the replies, I really appreciate it, and I am sorry some others have a similar experience. It is a test of toilerance.

[BlueMan Votes]

63. You should have done a better job vetting your spouse.

I never went more than one date with any repug gal.

It really turns me off.

I can't even imagine being married to one.

OMG...You're James Carville, aren't you?

[WallaceRitchie]

80. Agreed

There is a difference in fundamental views on humanity between the two parties these days... between selfishness and generosity, between me and we, between batshit crazy and common sense, between myths and science.

No way in hell would I ever be in a relationship with a Republican, let alone marry or potentially create more little Republicans.

[Democratopia]

86. I am from Europe and never had experience of Republicans

before. I am as shocked today as the first time I ever heard Limbaugh, Beck, or Hannity etc. Where I come from, I just never knew that level of hatred. Those people just don't get media jobs, because very few people tolerate it. I didn't know about it, and had no understanding that they were poisoning the minds of so many Americans. I am sometimes overwhelmed at how nasty things can be here.

[GCP]

88. Bingo.

I'm UK born, I lived in the US for 31 years, but have retired to the UK as my husband and I couldn't take the nastiness and idiocy any longer.

[Democratopia]

103. Yes, it is very hard to deal with. They called the Tories the nasty party,

but I never really knew what nasty was until I came to America. I have got very distressed about the way things are here. If Romney wins, I think I will have a breakdown to see him undo all the good things Obama has done. Obama has the edge, but of course events can take over, and I think things will improve a lot as the economy continuies to get better. So in 2016 Republicans won't be cashing in votes on the economy and how can they campaign to take away healthcare from tens of millions of people who will have healthcare thanks to Obamacare? Plus when you consider the older white GOP voters are dying off and minorities are expanding, it would be very difficult for them to win in 2016. The GOP will have to reinvent itself to win power again and move away from the nastiness and the extremes. So I am anticipating that things will get less nasty.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

71. Sorry, but going crazy sounds sane in this case.

If this is true, I feel sorry for you.
I bet there were plenty signs you chose to ignore.

[WallaceRitchie]

74. Communist Sympathizer alert

There was a communist sympathizer onstage tonight...

And his name was Mitt Romney.

Romney praised China and said they want the world to be free... not Obama.

[darkangel218]

90. +1 n/t

[Democratopia]

104. Hi darkangel. I keep seeing n/t, but can't figure out what it means.

[darkangel218]

119. n/t means "no text" in the message,

Which saves people from clicking on a post which only has the title message but not the body message.

[Democratopia]

123. Ahhh! Thank you. Finally I see! n/t

[darkangel218]

124. Youre welcome :) n/t

[Why Syzygy]

92. tag n/t

[polichick]

95. Do you have children with her? Tough spot for kids.

[Democratopia]

108. No, we don't have children. We don't talk about politics often

as she refuses to do so, so these problems don't arise often, but after this I feel I am at a new low. I don't need my wife to reafirm my own beliefs. She has liberal values, but at the same time she is loyal to the Republican Party. I know that makes no sense. It is like a faith. There is reasoning. I can deal with that, but as I say, I have never heard her repeat those sort of things that you hear Republicans say.

[polichick]

142. Well, I'd think twice before bringing kids into it...

Sure would be hard to watch your precious child being indoctrinated with the crazy beliefs of that cult.

Best of luck to you!

[scheming daemons]

96. Your slip is showing, and you aren't fooling anyone

You've been a concern troll since you got here... and you just created a fake wife with a fake meme so you could get the words "Obama is a communist" into google searches of DU.


Other here might be naive... but I know what you're up to.

[Democratopia]

100. Provide links to back up your allegations. You are a nasty bully.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

132. Didn't you say the other day....

....you were "taking a break" from here?

Yet here you are.

[Democratopia]

102. You make me sick. Calling me a troll. I challenge anyone to look back at my posts

I am sick to death of being abused by bullies.

[scheming daemons]

105. lol.... yeah... you're being abused

[Democratopia]

107. You called me a troll and a liar. That is bullying behavior.

I asked you to provide evidence to support your allegations, because certainly anything I have posted isn't evidence. You have not been able to do so. I expect your next move will be to block me or try to get me banned to save your face. Alternatively, you could do the right thing and apologise. I posted this thread because I have nobody I can talk to about this. I wanted to reach out and share my situation. I am very emotional and would appreciate it if you didn't bully me.

[scheming daemons]

110. dude... its the internet

You're not being "bullied".

You're being called out.

Your tactics are obvious. Your faux outrage is amusing.

[Democratopia]

114. I am being smeared by a bully. If you find any of my posts that suggest I am a troll post them here

so everyone can see you arn't making stuff up. Otherwise man up and apologise.

[Jakes Progress]

139. Do you have anything to prove your allegations?

Without supporting your charges, you are just blowing wind.

I would be glad to agree with you, if you could provide some support for what are now baseless allegations.

Please don't be one of those people.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

127. +1 . I'm surprised no

one else saw this.

[Why Syzygy]

138. Noticed..

The entire thread is full of them. Quite a coupe.

[smorkingapple]

97. I'd divorce her on the spot. That's just disqualifying crazy talk from someone I have to live with.

It's one thing to favor Republicans because of low taxes, blah blah blah but once you go the tea party route as my partner, kick rocks honey...

[brooklynite]

99. Ask her to prove it to you...

All of the President's speeches are recorded. Have her try and find an actual example of the President "apologizing", rather than simply a Rush Limbaugh snippet.

[Democratopia]

101. Thanks. I did ask her that when we argued. She yelled she doesn't need

to because he does it all the time.

[KatyMan]

115. no offense, dude

but your union is doomed. You do not share core moral beliefs. Take it from one who knows. (This is KatyMan's wife). I was married to a Republican, conservative for 11 years. He didn't show his true colors until he was about 36 or so. (We married when he was 28). Divorced him after 11 years of marriage and two young daughters. Best thing I ever did (well, besides marrying KatyMan) We do and have always been civil to each other since the divorce, even sharing holiday dinners and vacation once. But I am forever thankful that I got out of the marriage. No regrets ever.

[Democratopia]

122. I don't think anyone could love me more than she does.

I am glad the best things came from your marriage, even though the marriage was difficult. I find some of the things my wife does difficult and inconsiderate, but I have tried to see the reasons for that. But these are not to do with political beliefs. These are differences you could find in many relationships. She has had self-esteem issues and I think being a Republican is to do with a need to be part of a club, her parents approval and also being brainwashed. Her parents have Fox News on all the time. Her actual values are the same as a Democrat. I think this is why she won't talk about politics. She can't articulate why she supports Republicans. It comes from the heart (her feeling that the Republican Party is her home, that she is accepted by Republicans and being a Republican is part of her identity) not the head. There is no logic to it. I have to accept that she is misguided and look for the areas that connect us, nit divide us. That is a challenge.

[dgraz007]

117. Maybe you should divorce her

My first husband was a Republican. It got to a point of hating him, because of these similar kinds of remarks. He was also a racist. I know..should have known better. I am much happier now.

[Democratopia]

126. I am sorry to hear that. I did hate my wife for a minute. Her family are racist.

But I don't believe she is racist. I have never seen any evidence at all for that. I believe she was repeating stuff from her father or from Fox News (she only watches news if she visits her parents) that she doesn't question. I don't find it acceptable and told her. I believe if Obama wins the election and they see the economy do well again, a lot of this anger, based on the idea that its all Obama's fault that things are like they are now, will evaporate.

[treestar]

118. Try the Soledad Obrien clip

Where she has the speeches out and can't find any apologies.

As to the second, what's wrong with Europe? Most right wingers like to think of their European heritage. It is the white, Christian continent isn't it?

Also the right wing pundits make fools of people and probably laugh at them after work - those two statements are pure right wing punditry and make the person who quotes them look like a puppet. Appeal to her pride in thinking for herself.

[Democratopia]

128. Thank you for your advice.

I am incensed when I hear Republicans say these things, but for my wife to say that when I come from Europe! I did ask her what was wrong with Europe, and she said, "Greece!"


Appeal to her pride in thinking for herself.

Yes, that is a good idea. I will do that next time there is an incident. Thank you very much.

[MatthewStLouis]

130. Eeek! She's got ROMNESIA!

Maybe she should quit her job and apply to Sensata. See if they are hiring...

If all else fails, Obamacare will ensure your insurance covers this preexisting condition.


Seriously, I feel for you. My sister is in the same boat. Any and all political discussions are banned from her house.

[4_TN_TITANS]

131. Anyone who complains about America becoming like Europe...

Obviously hasn't been to Europe.

[Catherine Vincent]

133. What you should do is punish her until after the election

Make her sleep on the couch.

[Jersey Devil]

134. This is one of those things that makes life grand

I can imagine the fights and arguments! But, the making up, well, that sort of makes it all worth it or you wouldn't still be married, would you?

[ancianita]

135. Tell her to look at it this way: Which is the greater "apology," a diplomatic tour to establish

international networks -- Obama's apology tour -- OR a corporate tour to send millions of American jobs to China, India and Mexico -- Romney's apology tour. Which apology has done greater damage to America's strength and security -- Obama's loss of face or Romney's loss of income.

I would argue that if she were to vote for Romney and IF he should win, the world would demand that he apologize before he could even be given serious diplomatic recognition or respect, so badly has he bungled our international face before the world -- in England, Germany, Israel, the Middle East and don't even bring up Greece! Ask her if she cares if America is not isolated because of the world's bad opinion of its president.

[Jakes Progress]

141. Sorry. But I couldn't live with stupid.

I don't mean to call your wife names, but her actions are those of a stupid person.

I did date a woman who voted for reagan. She supported a woman's right to choose. Supported gun laws and restrictions. Celebrated civil rights. But she voted for reagan. That kind of stupid made her very unappealing to me. I was out of there. Now, I'm married to a nice. intelligent, beautiful Democrat.

[barbtries]

144. wow.

my parents had a mixed marriage but that was in the olden days, when republicans shared the same facts as the rest of the world. i'm sorry.
at this point in time i don't think i would even proceed to get involved with a republican. what are you going to do? how did you respond?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

145. I wish America was like Sweden! Take your wife to Sweden