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pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 05:23 PM Apr 2016

So what's the deal with the Bernie campaign's $10.5 million accounting discrepancy?

The discrepancy in numbers that the FEC is asking him to explain?

$10.5 is kind of a big number to mess up on.

Is there some explanation that he's put out there somewhere? And, no, this has nothing to do with Act Blue. That's on another line of the forms.



http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/542/201603300300040542/201603300300040542.pdf

FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION WASHINGTON, D.C. 20463
SUSAN JACKSON, TREASURER BERNIE 2016
PO BOX 905
BURLINGTON, VT 05402
IDENTIFICATION NUMBER: C00577130
REFERENCE: JULY QUARTERLY REPORT (04/01/2015 - 06/30/2015)

Dear Treasurer:
RQ-2
March 30, 2016
Response Due Date 05/04/2016

This letter is prompted by the Commission's preliminary review of the report referenced above. This notice requests information essential to full public disclosure of your federal election campaign finances. Failure to adequately respond by the response date noted above could result in an audit or enforcement action. Additional information is needed for the following 1 item(s):

- Line 17(a)(i) of the Detailed Summary Page of your report discloses a total of $3,279,505.25in contributions from individuals. The sum of the entries itemized on Schedule A-P, however, indicates the total to be $13,745,417.64. These amounts should be the same. Please amend your report to clarify the discrepancy. (11 CFR § 104.3(a) and (b))

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So what's the deal with the Bernie campaign's $10.5 million accounting discrepancy? (Original Post) pnwmom Apr 2016 OP
Sniper fire? RobertEarl Apr 2016 #1
Really? That's your go-to eh? Lucinda Apr 2016 #9
Heh. RobertEarl Apr 2016 #11
Dude can't even keep up with campaign donations when there is software that does it Lucinda Apr 2016 #13
It's not all good RobertEarl Apr 2016 #20
Oh yeah, POTUS is responsible for financing and managing computer functions, big part of job. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #26
If he cant manage to hire people that can run software, I don't think I want him in charge Lucinda Apr 2016 #27
reported correctly on all other forms. explained days ago Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #2
Where's the answer then? Has this FEC letter been debunked? pnwmom Apr 2016 #3
response due date: may 4 right there in your post Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #4
There's zero reputable sources for this. Just Hillary’s 2 propaganda sites nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #6
I just checked Snopes and it's not listed there. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #19
Response due date. So? How can it have been debunked if he hasn't responded? pnwmom Apr 2016 #15
Why do you even think its true? It exists nowhere else but on propaganda sites nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #17
I checked Snopes and it's not listed there. nt pnwmom Apr 2016 #21
I'd answer that means its so whacky its not even on the radar riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #23
The earlier FEC documents that were put on PV were also covered by USA today. pnwmom Apr 2016 #24
Then link that and I'll look at it. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #25
Here. pnwmom Apr 2016 #28
That's not the same issue at all from your OP riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #29
you might want to take down the OP grasswire Apr 2016 #5
let it stay Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #8
You didn't debunk this from me two days ago. If there's an answer, what's stopping you pnwmom Apr 2016 #14
your source is an automatic debunk Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #18
Why not just answer with a link? Is this a true FEC letter? If Bernie's campaign pnwmom Apr 2016 #12
There's no response and no record of it other than these 2 propaganda sites riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #16
The podium bird told him he could do it !!! /sarcasm uponit7771 Apr 2016 #7
It is a good question. Lucinda Apr 2016 #10
Eh, 6 of one... Dem2 Apr 2016 #22
More nonsense. Just part of Hillarys' dishonest mud slinging campaign. Ignore. imagine2015 Apr 2016 #30
His campaign has gotten two other letters from the same FEC person. pnwmom Apr 2016 #31
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
11. Heh.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 06:09 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie had such overwhelming numbers of donors that it was hard to keep up with the millions of numbers.

H has so much trouble she had trouble keeping up with all the sniping.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
13. Dude can't even keep up with campaign donations when there is software that does it
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 06:13 PM
Apr 2016

How would he handle the POTUS?
I don't think I am going to have to worry about it though.
So it's all good.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
20. It's not all good
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 06:36 PM
Apr 2016

The donations are good, but the lies from H about snipers is all bad.

Has H looked into the speech transcripts yet? I sure would like to read what she promised the banksters. If she has trouble finding her speech material now, what does that say about her as POTUS? Can she even remember what she says from day-to-day? It is evident she is lost in the daze.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
27. If he cant manage to hire people that can run software, I don't think I want him in charge
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:07 PM
Apr 2016

of the big things.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
2. reported correctly on all other forms. explained days ago
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 05:34 PM
Apr 2016

And People's View is still a debunked troll banned from DU.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
3. Where's the answer then? Has this FEC letter been debunked?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 05:44 PM
Apr 2016

I was asking the question in the OP because I haven't been able to find a link. If Bernie's campaign has addressed this, could you give me one?


Thanks.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
4. response due date: may 4 right there in your post
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 05:53 PM
Apr 2016

All i had to do was google a few sentences to see no media on this except peoples view and daily caller

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
15. Response due date. So? How can it have been debunked if he hasn't responded?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 06:15 PM
Apr 2016

But if he has, what's the response?

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
23. I'd answer that means its so whacky its not even on the radar
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:20 PM
Apr 2016

My dog can sing Happy Birthday in Spanish! Its not on Snopes so it must be true.

Your sources are known propaganda sites and without the source documents to see what supposedly needed to be reconciled, there is nothing to see here.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
24. The earlier FEC documents that were put on PV were also covered by USA today.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:25 PM
Apr 2016

People here were saying that those were fake.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
25. Then link that and I'll look at it.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:45 PM
Apr 2016

Ill warn you though that without the different original forms that are being asked to be reconciled, its impossible to determine anything.

As I've said before though, bad data input will ensure the numbers won't match and a simple typo correction is all that's required. When it happened to me I was sent a polite request to reconcile the document. That was it. Very similar to what I read here.

Have you been audited? I have. Three times. If the govt believes you're in trouble, there aren't nice letters like this one. You're assigned a personal agent, directed to your hearing date, and given a vague and threatening directive to bring all relevant paperwork. Its menacing.

And I'm a small business owner, not a Presidential campaign.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
29. That's not the same issue at all from your OP
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:36 PM
Apr 2016

Your OP is about Bernie's 2nd quarter 2015 disclosure about an apparent accounting error (but of course we have zero info on that - only the 2 propaganda sites with no source documents ).

Please note Bernie only formally announced his candidacy in late May 2015 so the OP FEC document reconciliation request is applicable to Bernie’s earliest days as a candidate.

Your news links are about approximately 100 donors out of 6.5 million who gave over the $2700 limit.

I believe the FEC simply allows the candidate to return the overage, maybe pay a fine...

Its not as though shit doesn't happen ...

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/01/07/obama-campaign-fined-big-for-hiding-donors-keeping-illegal-donations

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
8. let it stay
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 06:03 PM
Apr 2016

Its funny when you see them post the same thing over and over, pretending like it's some important new scandal, when you just debunked the same post from the same person 2 days ago.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
14. You didn't debunk this from me two days ago. If there's an answer, what's stopping you
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 06:13 PM
Apr 2016

from giving it to me now?

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
18. your source is an automatic debunk
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 06:24 PM
Apr 2016

I give you permission to post it again when any other news source picks it up, k?

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
12. Why not just answer with a link? Is this a true FEC letter? If Bernie's campaign
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 06:12 PM
Apr 2016

has had a response, what is it?

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
16. There's no response and no record of it other than these 2 propaganda sites
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 06:20 PM
Apr 2016

Without seeing the raw filings, there's no way to say what's happening.

It looks like a simple reminder that their data entry has a wrong entry and needs fixing.

I file quarterly payroll taxes and if I screw up on the data entry (has happened 1x in my 25 years and 1x to my sister's biz), I'm sent a letter very similar to this seeking the corrections.

I corrected the data and sent the reconciled forms.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
22. Eh, 6 of one...
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 06:57 PM
Apr 2016

$10.5 mil...


Just kidding, I don't care for this Democratic circular firing squad bullshit.

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