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hill2016

(1,772 posts)
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:04 PM Apr 2016

if everyone gets something from Bernie, who is the one actually paying? ever wondered that? I do.

the young get free college and maybe get loan forgiveness
older adults get universal health care
seniors get increased social security benefits

who actually pays?

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if everyone gets something from Bernie, who is the one actually paying? ever wondered that? I do. (Original Post) hill2016 Apr 2016 OP
Nice republican talking points. "Free stuff" nt revbones Apr 2016 #1
these are all on his website hill2016 Apr 2016 #2
Yeah, I'm sure it says "Free stuff" take your republican talking points off this site revbones Apr 2016 #4
Woohoo! Republican talking points? Bull-friggin-shit. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #55
I think you're talking about yourself. You should try reading them. Might help. nt revbones Apr 2016 #59
Oh,go back to bed. pangaia Apr 2016 #3
This sure looks and smells like the next meme trial balloon being floated here. TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #22
You, as well. No sense thinking about issues. Let's just sleep through it. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #56
juvenile questions -evidence of zero grasp of any issues amborin Apr 2016 #5
Are you a republican? Who is paying for the mess in Libya? Huh? ViseGrip Apr 2016 #6
More evidence of right-wing infiltration. Broward Apr 2016 #7
And if everyone gets nothing from Hillary, where does your money go? nichomachus Apr 2016 #8
The tooth fairy tralala Apr 2016 #9
Cool you are still up...and on a school night! jmg257 Apr 2016 #10
LOL..nt pangaia Apr 2016 #34
Well, you see, the person that does not want to work for the first couple decades of his adult life seabeyond Apr 2016 #11
Pathetic Kalidurga Apr 2016 #14
I need a translator to read what that person wrote. libtodeath Apr 2016 #46
It's your lucky day. I have a translator. Kalidurga Apr 2016 #67
Same but about K-12 education tralala Apr 2016 #18
You have a very low opinion of Americans beedle Apr 2016 #25
R u voting for cruzer? Sure sounds like it. pangaia Apr 2016 #35
This is literally Newkularblue Apr 2016 #39
You forgot "Unicorns and Fairies" TheFarS1de Apr 2016 #12
All in all out. You aren't that stupid are you? Maybe you are. morningfog Apr 2016 #13
Talk about Republican talking points. Right out of the playbook, page one at that. ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #15
Just you. Oh, and all Libertarians. TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #16
The better question is who isn't paying their taxes now. Gregorian Apr 2016 #17
I take it the OP is worried about the billionaires losing some of their wealth for the common good. reformist2 Apr 2016 #19
Yep - it might cut into some of her/his off shore bank accounts. Hill2016 has plenty. nt jmg257 Apr 2016 #38
So the one percenters aren't getting anything senseandsensibility Apr 2016 #20
do you seriously think that 1% of the people hill2016 Apr 2016 #40
If the people that make 99% of the money actually paid 99% of the taxes, there'd be no problem. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #42
the 1% does not make 99% of the money. hill2016 Apr 2016 #47
That's because capital gains aren't taxed like actual working for a living income. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #49
Bernie's crazy idea is to use tax money on things we actually need rachacha Apr 2016 #21
Just as long as the fat pie slices of your beloved military-industrial complex aren't threatened! villager Apr 2016 #23
There is no doubt whatsoever. pangaia Apr 2016 #37
I'm just trying to figure out why YOU are paying Downwinder Apr 2016 #24
You do. HassleCat Apr 2016 #26
They're paid by taxes, just like everything else. ZombieHorde Apr 2016 #27
How do they manage to do it in Europe? dflprincess Apr 2016 #28
Why do you prefer your tax dollars going to Chasstev365 Apr 2016 #29
Nope I don't even think about it Politicalboi Apr 2016 #30
"Older adults get universal health care" - wow, what a radical idea Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #31
You do. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #32
Sounds like a republican talking point. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #33
Are you against free K-12 too? jfern Apr 2016 #36
they hill2016 Apr 2016 #41
His plans are all hypothetical. If they went into effect there would have to be a lot more tax DanTex Apr 2016 #43
Another day at free republic I see. libtodeath Apr 2016 #44
Berniebros' parents. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be Apr 2016 #58
There it is. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be Apr 2016 #62
Its disgusting that bros is equivalent to hoes in your world, yes. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be Apr 2016 #65
Why do we park in the driveway and drive on the parkway? Ever wondered that? I do.. Fumesucker Apr 2016 #48
did bill and hillary go to the food bank to feed Chelsea when they were flat broke? n/t floppyboo Apr 2016 #50
Right wing talking points from a Hillary supporter--who would have ever expected that! BillZBubb Apr 2016 #51
There is so much waste hereforthevoting Apr 2016 #52
Let's nationalize the auto industry and provide free cars redstateblues Apr 2016 #53
How does the military get all those free planes, and ships and, drones and bombs? nt My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #54
You don't feel like looking this up yourself? It's all on his website, easy to find and understand. JudyM Apr 2016 #57
We ALL do... choie Apr 2016 #60
It is misguided thinking and poor leadership and policies decision that have people like you making CentralMass Apr 2016 #63
Since you apparently have no idea how Google works.... Shadowflash Apr 2016 #66
You do. The NSA is currently working with Bernie to get your name and address. Expect the bill in jillan Apr 2016 #68
It would cut into my nanny budget Prism Apr 2016 #69
 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
4. Yeah, I'm sure it says "Free stuff" take your republican talking points off this site
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:05 PM
Apr 2016

and back to your day job.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
55. Woohoo! Republican talking points? Bull-friggin-shit.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:49 AM
Apr 2016

You honestly don't have a clue about the impact of these economically crippling proposals? Wow!!


btw -- I expect you on the front lines screaming "Nice republican talking points!!" every time one of your compatriots dusts off a Rovian smear of HRC. You'll be there, right?

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
8. And if everyone gets nothing from Hillary, where does your money go?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:07 PM
Apr 2016

Into her pocket as usual.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
11. Well, you see, the person that does not want to work for the first couple decades of his adult life
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:09 PM
Apr 2016

can get his free college and health care off the backs of the workers burden to pay the taxes for that free college and health care. seems like a deal to all those that graduate from college and then doesn't get a real paying job for a couple decades. Can play in Marxism and socialism and hook up one electricity to a landlords outlet. Quite the deal.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
67. It's your lucky day. I have a translator.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:02 PM
Apr 2016

I hate children who have parents to poor to pay for their college or who won't work full time and go to college and starve for 8 years while trying to get a college degree cuz poor people always want free chit.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
25. You have a very low opinion of Americans
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:30 PM
Apr 2016

other countries that have "free stuff' don't seem to have this problem ... is it just Americans that are this lazy and corrupt? What makes you think Americans are so inferior?

Newkularblue

(130 posts)
39. This is literally
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:21 PM
Apr 2016

Weapons grade stupid...

When you invest in people and educate them, they get good jobs and make more money. When they make more money they pay more taxes than were spent on thier education...

And if they did manage to 'take a decade off' (assuming they dont require.. oh.. FOOD or anything) when they do go to work they.... wait for it... pay taxes.

Good night

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
17. The better question is who isn't paying their taxes now.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:12 PM
Apr 2016

It's the fact that we have a military which is literally ten times the size it should/could ought to be.

Our problems are not financial. They're political. We have the money.

It's the same question you asked, just looking at it from the perspective of fairness. Right now things aren't fair, or we wouldn't have such a great income difference.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
19. I take it the OP is worried about the billionaires losing some of their wealth for the common good.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:13 PM
Apr 2016

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
38. Yep - it might cut into some of her/his off shore bank accounts. Hill2016 has plenty. nt
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:58 PM
Apr 2016

senseandsensibility

(24,978 posts)
20. So the one percenters aren't getting anything
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:14 PM
Apr 2016

They're paying for it because they can, and because they've reaped all the benefits of our hard work for decades. Also, hill, no one claimed that the one percenters would get anything, let alone Bernie. But I guess that's what is really bothering you.

 

hill2016

(1,772 posts)
40. do you seriously think that 1% of the people
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:20 AM
Apr 2016

can pay for the other 99% of the people? Health care, college, social security?

NO. The maths only works if the middle class pays more in taxes. Which Bernie has NEVER been honest about.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
42. If the people that make 99% of the money actually paid 99% of the taxes, there'd be no problem.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:25 AM
Apr 2016

But the 1% of the income earners get to pay for the wars that make all the money for those at the top.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
49. That's because capital gains aren't taxed like actual working for a living income.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:32 AM
Apr 2016

Like the 5 Walmart heirs have more wealth than the bottom 60,000,000 Americans.

rachacha

(173 posts)
21. Bernie's crazy idea is to use tax money on things we actually need
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:14 PM
Apr 2016

Or we could just fund more wars and keep subsidizing corporate welfare.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
23. Just as long as the fat pie slices of your beloved military-industrial complex aren't threatened!
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:15 PM
Apr 2016

I really really do want to vote for Hillary in the fall if she is the nominee.

But with these gleefully diarrhetic rightwing talking points constantly posted in her "favor," it increasingly raises profound doubts about her.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
37. There is no doubt whatsoever.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:57 PM
Apr 2016

She is a corporatist who runs with her corporate buddies.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
27. They're paid by taxes, just like everything else.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:32 PM
Apr 2016

This primary is turning DU toward the right, which is interesting to watch.

dflprincess

(29,346 posts)
28. How do they manage to do it in Europe?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:35 PM
Apr 2016

So sad to see the U.S. falling further and further behind the rest of the world with our "That's not possible" attitude.

Chasstev365

(7,798 posts)
29. Why do you prefer your tax dollars going to
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:36 PM
Apr 2016

1. Corporate subsides
2. Defense Contractors
3. The Upper 1%
4. Foreign wars

I'd prefer free stuff like universal healthcare, college tuition, alternative fuel delvelopment, and better mass transit

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
30. Nope I don't even think about it
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:36 PM
Apr 2016

When our government can spend $43 million on a gas station in Afghanistan then they most certainly can help us Americans out. When our government build tanks we won't use they can give us some money. When corporations like Wal Mart can hire for dirt wages and use our system to feed their employees, they can be taxed more.

It's time the very rich pay.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
31. "Older adults get universal health care" - wow, what a radical idea
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:39 PM
Apr 2016

Seniors not having to eat cat food - crazy talk!

Young people being educated for the jobs of the 21st century without being in hock all the way into the 22nd - LUNACY and BALDERDASH!


Who pays? Who can POSSIBLY afford such largesse, especially given that we cant possibly cut the billions of dollars we spend every year putting people in prison for shit like pot smoking, or the trillion or so we spend on the military.

Verily. Its a conundrum, wherever will we find all that money?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/income-inequality-in-america-chart-graph




 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
33. Sounds like a republican talking point.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:52 PM
Apr 2016

Rather than spending money on war and corporate welfare, how about spending it on education and healthcare?

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
43. His plans are all hypothetical. If they went into effect there would have to be a lot more tax
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:26 AM
Apr 2016

increases than he lets on. They're just empty campaign promises.

Response to LexVegas (Reply #45)

Response to LexVegas (Reply #61)

Response to LexVegas (Reply #64)

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
48. Why do we park in the driveway and drive on the parkway? Ever wondered that? I do..
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:32 AM
Apr 2016

It's just ridiculous and confusing, no wonder our kids are stupid, lazy and want free everything just spoon fed into their mouths by sexy robots.

Can't we just this once think of the children?


hereforthevoting

(241 posts)
52. There is so much waste
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:43 AM
Apr 2016

And so many people getting rich in illegitimate ways.....

the money is there.


Some might come from you, a piddly amount, yes! But you are a dem so you put your money where your mouth is.


Or join the correct party.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
53. Let's nationalize the auto industry and provide free cars
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:43 AM
Apr 2016

Transportation is an essential need in our society. Why does making automobiles have to be for profit?

JudyM

(29,785 posts)
57. You don't feel like looking this up yourself? It's all on his website, easy to find and understand.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:56 AM
Apr 2016

~200 economists agree with his numbers.

choie

(6,906 posts)
60. We ALL do...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:12 AM
Apr 2016

it's called "the commons" and the money will also come from the extremely bloated defense spending, corporate taxes, among others. Stop the right wing talking points crap.

CentralMass

(16,971 posts)
63. It is misguided thinking and poor leadership and policies decision that have people like you making
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:27 AM
Apr 2016

Last edited Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:10 PM - Edit history (2)

statements like this.
Our government has made horrendously bad fiscal and foreign policy decisions over the last two decades. Decisions that have crippled the country economically and left us with gross income equality and 46.5 muon people living in poverty. Our foreign policy decisions have destabilized and armed most of the middle east and created ISIS.

Bernie Sander's votes, sentiments and heart have been on the right side of virtually all of these decisions.

I recall reading some articles back in November about the Air Force running out of bombs to drop on ISILand ISIS. If I recall the government had spent $1.25 bIllion on bombs since August of 2014 when the bombing campaign started All because our leadership made disastrous foreign policy choices. How many trillions of dollars have these bad decisons cost us ? Whst is the global death toll from these wars ? Would in just that small example, that $1.25 bIllion been better spent here ? Our government is throwing people who desperately need help of food stamps etc..

Its time to stop defending ing the status quo.



I'm going to vote for the guy who makes the wise political choices.

There is never a problem finding the money to bail out crooked financial institutions, or dole out corporate welfare, our to fund the perpetual wars that our establishment politicians lead us into to, but there is no money to invest in the people if this country..

We need a change in thinking and in leadership.


jillan

(39,451 posts)
68. You do. The NSA is currently working with Bernie to get your name and address. Expect the bill in
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:03 PM
Apr 2016

2020.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
69. It would cut into my nanny budget
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:04 PM
Apr 2016

I don't have children. But I do have cats that get a bit wily.

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