2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie will probably back-track some and blame his lie on the media by saying that
He was quoting a quote from the media and not quoting Hillary. But he will stand by his statement about Hillary being unqualified for office. Because if he takes that back, his followers will not like it.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Why are y'all playing fucking dipshit? It's beyond playing dumb.
Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)And his little minions, I mean followers are acting the same way, like the bratty grandkids.
She never said he was unqualified I don't care about surrogates.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)She may have questioned his preparedness, but she's never said he was unqualified.
This is my thing, I'm going to do my best not to get into the gutters, that's for the republicans.
I haven't always been successful, but I'm going to try.
I look at their candidates and supporters and I look at the candidate and supporters of the left, I never want to be like them.
If Bernie wins the nomination, I'll vote for him in November. If Hillary wins the nomination, I'll vote for her in November.
Bernie would need Hillary supporters and Hillary would ned Bernie supporters.
I don't have time for purism, I just don't want Trump or Cruz or whoever comes out as their nominee after the convention.
Gwhittey
(1,377 posts)Hillary supporters lied about Sanders Civil Rights activity right before we had SC primary. Then the said oh I misspoke. Now you might not care about surrogates saying it but when Clinton is standing right next to them when they say it you are being dishonest if think that is not something she had them say. Even if she did not then she should said he was wrong. It is want made me never going to vote for her.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)TCJ70
(4,387 posts)There's one poster here who for MONTHS reposted something Cornell West said as a strike against Sanders because he's a Sanders supporter. Where does the ownership of supporters comments end?
frylock
(34,825 posts)to any specific campaign, correct? Hillary hired these people to work for her campaign. Unless a retraction or clarification has been issued, I have to assume that anything coming from a campaign staffer has the approval of the candidate.
Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)No frickin' dud...
You know what thy say about assumptions right? They're the mother of all fuck-ups.
frylock
(34,825 posts)It's not like Hillary is big on message discipline or anything. Guy's head is prolly on a pike.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)Even if he blindly believed the media and didn't verify for himself, he was still lying.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)I think he's defensive deep down because he KNOWS he's not as qualified as her.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Are we to believe it's coincidental that Hillary says she's taking the gloves off and suddenly, Sanders is portrayed as the liar? I think not. Actual, serious adults know better. The propaganda's not working anymore. Find some more gloves to remove.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)He lied about her qualifications, and he lied about her supposedly saying he was unqualified.
An angry, demagogic liar who lies.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)This is nothing more than the beginning of the new and promised attack rollout. Go sell it to the rubes; I'm not buying.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Glad that the gloves are being taken off for him now and that it's New York doing the damage.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)I see that a lot from Hillary Supporters.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)He IS blaming the media.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sanders-blames-media-unqualified-tiff-clinton
What was that about vitriolic?
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)Following a week where Hillary Clintons presidential campaign refused to agree to a New York debate unless Bernie Sanders toned down his campaign, the Clinton campaign escalated its negative tone against Sanders, with one aide telling CNN their goal was to disqualify and defeat him.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)You can deflect and pretend he didn't all you want. HE LIED and now he's blaming the media. The poster is 100% CORRECT and common dreams is crap.
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)I can write big too.
Since we are all about truth here.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)This is only an issue to diehard Hillfans and media shills.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)WITHOUT Hillary voters? Please tell me you're not that foolish.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)because "to do otherwise is unthinkable"
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)30 percent of Bernie voters will not show in November for her. (Given the number of new-independent voters hardly surprising). But only 7 percent will not show if he is the nominee.
I know, I know. Personally am enjoying the show.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)He just said something your side didn't like, after your side smeared him by refusing to admit he was qualified.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)So not a lot of moral high ground, eh?
House Republicans Release The Subpoena Hillary Clinton Said She Never Received For Her Emails, The Huffington Post, July 8, 2015 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/08/hillary-clinton-emails-_n_7756106.html
WASHINGTON One day after Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said she never had a subpoena for the emails she sent while secretary of state, House Republicans on Wednesday released a document appearing to contradict her namely, the subpoena theyd served Clinton earlier this year.
During an interview with CNNs Brianna Keilar on Tuesday, Clinton said that other secretaries of state had done the same thing as her in the past. Keilar replied, They used a personal server, and while facing a subpoena, deleted emails from them?"
You know, youre starting with so many assumptions, Clinton responded. Ive never had a subpoena, theres nothing again, lets take a deep breath here.
(snip)
When Clinton on Tuesday said shed never had a subpoena, that appears to be contradicted by the subpoena House Republicans issued her in March. But it depends on what the meaning of the word had is. A Clinton campaign spokesperson told The Huffington Post that she had already destroyed the emails in question before the subpoena was received. Clinton turned over some emails to the State Department in late 2014 and then wiped her personal server clean so by the time the subpoena arrived in March, there was nothing for it to act on.
And then to see an actual copy of the subpoena (it even has the heading "SUBPOENA" in all caps) she was served on March 4, 2015 go here -
http://benghazi.house.gov/sites/republicans.benghazi.house.gov/files/Kendall.Clinton%20Subpoena%20-%202015.03.04.pdf
Keep in mind ALL the government records including the ones she TRIED TO HAVE DELETED have since been retrieved by the FBI.
Unbeknownst to Clinton, IT firm had emails stored on cloud; now in FBIs hands, McClatchy DC, October 3, 2015 http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article37968711.html
WASHINGTON A Connecticut company, which backed up Hillary Clintons emails at the request of a Colorado firm, apparently surprised her aides by storing the emails on a cloud storage system designed to optimize data recovery.
The firm, Datto Inc., said Wednesday that it turned over the contents of its storage to the FBI on Tuesday.
A Republican Senate committee chairman, Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, also has asked the firm to provide the committee copies of any data from Clintons account still in its possession.
So it will be very interesting to see if she "lied" about them all having to do with yog and her daughter's wedding - except we already know some of them were "work related" because other people (including Sidney Blumenthal) already turned them in.