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Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:15 AM Apr 2016

Bernie will probably back-track some and blame his lie on the media by saying that

He was quoting a quote from the media and not quoting Hillary. But he will stand by his statement about Hillary being unqualified for office. Because if he takes that back, his followers will not like it.

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Bernie will probably back-track some and blame his lie on the media by saying that (Original Post) Jitter65 Apr 2016 OP
You mean he based his quote Hillary camp's statement. morningfog Apr 2016 #1
Bernie didn't mention Hillary's camp, he mentioned her specifically. Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #5
Hillary's camp mentioned him, he responded in kind. morningfog Apr 2016 #7
No, he responded like angry grandpa. Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #8
It wasn't a surrogate. morningfog Apr 2016 #9
She never said he wasn't qualified. Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #10
So you don't think swiftboating is in gutter Gwhittey Apr 2016 #21
Who does Hillary's camp represent? frylock Apr 2016 #12
Should I associate to you what something one of your friends say? Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #13
How much does a candidate own? TCJ70 Apr 2016 #18
You do understand the difference between paid consultants and anonymous posters with no ties.. frylock Apr 2016 #22
Eureka... You dun opened my eyes. Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #35
Right, probably just some cowboy who put that out. frylock Apr 2016 #36
She's not qualified ibegurpard Apr 2016 #2
They're both qualified. Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #15
Looks like the memo went out. This is about OP #15 this morning with identical wording. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #3
Problem is, the media didn't report the "quote/unquote unqualified". DanTex Apr 2016 #4
The man doth protest too much. MoonRiver Apr 2016 #6
We've all known for a long time which candidate lies and which doesn't. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #11
Your candidate is a liar and a demagogue. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #20
I'm aware those are the new talking points, but they have no bearing on reality. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #28
Sure, for those who believe he is infallible. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #29
Not infallible, of course, but a much, much better choice than Clinton. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #30
New York Democrats disagree. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #31
This is vitriolic Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #14
Except the poster is 100% correct leftynyc Apr 2016 #16
Except the poster is 100% incorrect! Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #19
HE LIED leftynyc Apr 2016 #23
SHE LIED Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #27
He probably won't do shit because he doesn't need to whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #17
You think Bernie can win leftynyc Apr 2016 #24
I've been told all Hillary supporters will support the nominee whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #25
Current polling says yes nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #34
Bernie didn't lie. He didn't say something he KNEW was untrue. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #26
He knew it was untrue to day and he doubled down!! nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #32
Hillary lies about emails and subpoenas... IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #33
 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
7. Hillary's camp mentioned him, he responded in kind.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:35 AM
Apr 2016

Why are y'all playing fucking dipshit? It's beyond playing dumb.

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
8. No, he responded like angry grandpa.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:32 AM
Apr 2016

And his little minions, I mean followers are acting the same way, like the bratty grandkids.

She never said he was unqualified I don't care about surrogates.

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
10. She never said he wasn't qualified.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:21 AM
Apr 2016

She may have questioned his preparedness, but she's never said he was unqualified.

This is my thing, I'm going to do my best not to get into the gutters, that's for the republicans.

I haven't always been successful, but I'm going to try.

I look at their candidates and supporters and I look at the candidate and supporters of the left, I never want to be like them.

If Bernie wins the nomination, I'll vote for him in November. If Hillary wins the nomination, I'll vote for her in November.

Bernie would need Hillary supporters and Hillary would ned Bernie supporters.

I don't have time for purism, I just don't want Trump or Cruz or whoever comes out as their nominee after the convention.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
21. So you don't think swiftboating is in gutter
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:23 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary supporters lied about Sanders Civil Rights activity right before we had SC primary. Then the said oh I misspoke. Now you might not care about surrogates saying it but when Clinton is standing right next to them when they say it you are being dishonest if think that is not something she had them say. Even if she did not then she should said he was wrong. It is want made me never going to vote for her.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
18. How much does a candidate own?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:19 PM
Apr 2016

There's one poster here who for MONTHS reposted something Cornell West said as a strike against Sanders because he's a Sanders supporter. Where does the ownership of supporters comments end?

frylock

(34,825 posts)
22. You do understand the difference between paid consultants and anonymous posters with no ties..
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:29 PM
Apr 2016

to any specific campaign, correct? Hillary hired these people to work for her campaign. Unless a retraction or clarification has been issued, I have to assume that anything coming from a campaign staffer has the approval of the candidate.

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
35. Eureka... You dun opened my eyes.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:23 AM
Apr 2016

No frickin' dud...

You know what thy say about assumptions right? They're the mother of all fuck-ups.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
36. Right, probably just some cowboy who put that out.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:16 AM
Apr 2016

It's not like Hillary is big on message discipline or anything. Guy's head is prolly on a pike.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
4. Problem is, the media didn't report the "quote/unquote unqualified".
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:18 AM
Apr 2016

Even if he blindly believed the media and didn't verify for himself, he was still lying.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
6. The man doth protest too much.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:34 AM
Apr 2016

I think he's defensive deep down because he KNOWS he's not as qualified as her.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
11. We've all known for a long time which candidate lies and which doesn't.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:27 AM
Apr 2016

Are we to believe it's coincidental that Hillary says she's taking the gloves off and suddenly, Sanders is portrayed as the liar? I think not. Actual, serious adults know better. The propaganda's not working anymore. Find some more gloves to remove.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
20. Your candidate is a liar and a demagogue.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:23 PM
Apr 2016

He lied about her qualifications, and he lied about her supposedly saying he was unqualified.

An angry, demagogic liar who lies.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
28. I'm aware those are the new talking points, but they have no bearing on reality.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:20 PM
Apr 2016

This is nothing more than the beginning of the new and promised attack rollout. Go sell it to the rubes; I'm not buying.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
29. Sure, for those who believe he is infallible.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:21 PM
Apr 2016

Glad that the gloves are being taken off for him now and that it's New York doing the damage.

Sky Masterson

(5,240 posts)
19. Except the poster is 100% incorrect!
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:20 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/04/07/disqualify-and-defeat-clinton-campaign-attacks-intensify-halt-sanders-win-streak
Following a week where Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign refused to agree to a New York debate unless Bernie Sanders “toned down” his campaign, the Clinton campaign escalated its negative tone against Sanders, with one aide telling CNN their goal was to “disqualify” and “defeat him.”
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
23. HE LIED
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:30 PM
Apr 2016

You can deflect and pretend he didn't all you want. HE LIED and now he's blaming the media. The poster is 100% CORRECT and common dreams is crap.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
17. He probably won't do shit because he doesn't need to
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:18 PM
Apr 2016

This is only an issue to diehard Hillfans and media shills.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
25. I've been told all Hillary supporters will support the nominee
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:33 PM
Apr 2016

because "to do otherwise is unthinkable"

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
34. Current polling says yes
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:52 PM
Apr 2016

30 percent of Bernie voters will not show in November for her. (Given the number of new-independent voters hardly surprising). But only 7 percent will not show if he is the nominee.

I know, I know. Personally am enjoying the show.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
26. Bernie didn't lie. He didn't say something he KNEW was untrue.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:35 PM
Apr 2016

He just said something your side didn't like, after your side smeared him by refusing to admit he was qualified.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
33. Hillary lies about emails and subpoenas...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:49 PM
Apr 2016

So not a lot of moral high ground, eh?

House Republicans Release The Subpoena Hillary Clinton Said She Never Received For Her Emails, The Huffington Post, July 8, 2015 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/08/hillary-clinton-emails-_n_7756106.html

WASHINGTON — One day after Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said she “never had a subpoena” for the emails she sent while secretary of state, House Republicans on Wednesday released a document appearing to contradict her — namely, the subpoena they’d served Clinton earlier this year.

During an interview with CNN’s Brianna Keilar on Tuesday, Clinton said that other secretaries of state had done the same thing as her in the past. Keilar replied, “They used a personal server, and while facing a subpoena, deleted emails from them?"

“You know, you’re starting with so many assumptions,” Clinton responded. “I’ve never had a subpoena, there’s nothing — again, let’s take a deep breath here.”

(snip)

When Clinton on Tuesday said she’d “never had a subpoena,” that appears to be contradicted by the subpoena House Republicans issued her in March. But it depends on what the meaning of the word “had” is. A Clinton campaign spokesperson told The Huffington Post that she had already destroyed the emails in question before the subpoena was received. Clinton turned over some emails to the State Department in late 2014 and then wiped her personal server clean — so by the time the subpoena arrived in March, there was nothing for it to act on.


And then to see an actual copy of the subpoena (it even has the heading "SUBPOENA" in all caps) she was served on March 4, 2015 go here -

http://benghazi.house.gov/sites/republicans.benghazi.house.gov/files/Kendall.Clinton%20Subpoena%20-%202015.03.04.pdf

Keep in mind ALL the government records including the ones she TRIED TO HAVE DELETED have since been retrieved by the FBI.

Unbeknownst to Clinton, IT firm had emails stored on cloud; now in FBI’s hands, McClatchy DC, October 3, 2015 http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article37968711.html

WASHINGTON A Connecticut company, which backed up Hillary Clinton‘s emails at the request of a Colorado firm, apparently surprised her aides by storing the emails on a “cloud” storage system designed to optimize data recovery.

The firm, Datto Inc., said Wednesday that it turned over the contents of its storage to the FBI on Tuesday.

A Republican Senate committee chairman, Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, also has asked the firm to provide the committee copies of any data from Clinton’s account still in its possession.


So it will be very interesting to see if she "lied" about them all having to do with yog and her daughter's wedding - except we already know some of them were "work related" because other people (including Sidney Blumenthal) already turned them in.

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