2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary getting a debate on qualifications - A consistent record
Look, all the way around, she has not done a good job, nor made good decisions in her government jobs, her 'private' jobs, nor her campaigns, or family like sending Chelsea out to lie. Lying about Bernie just as she did Obama in 2008. It's a consistent record.
One bad show after another. One bad vote after another.
Ooopsie Bill took 500K for arms via the 'foundation' while Hillary was at State Dept. A no no. Now he just shut down BLM protesters.
Hillary supporters are finally asking, "why don't they think first before they act?" Because they don't have to.
The arrogance of it all is absolutely stunning!
questionseverything
(9,646 posts)money quote....the democratic party of bill clinton is dead
pbs and charlie rose
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Pertinent? I absolutely friggin' hate Charlie Rose.
I tried to make my way through the first 18 minutes but only made it through the first 8.
Rose has never been against any of our un-winnable, endless wars. He is also totally a believer that ISIS just created itself out of the desert sand.
He absolutely loves the Big Banking give aways, even though his own show was seriously harmed by the Ponzi scheme many of the foundations supporting him had relied on.
He has never made any progressive statements. (Other than liking theater and music.)
He supported George Bush.
He favors all big trade "Agreements." I can only imagine the spin he puts on discussing the Democratic Party needing to pull away from the Banking Class.
questionseverything
(9,646 posts)pundits answer, if not dead it is certainly on life support
another says, it is dead,centrist ideas are dead
bernie's idea are the future of the democratic party
that is a whole lotta truth for public television
these are just off the top of my head...the democrat discussion starts after the 18 minute mark
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)And Of course, I am especially happy that Bernie is seen as the front runner of the Big Change we need, my problem is that
One: for eight minutes, not one mention of the fraudulent behavior that Clinton's campaign has imposed on Bernie's win. No mention of the upset in Nevada, wherein Bernie is pulling through.
And since Rose ahs never mentioned any sort of Black Box voting issues, it is not likely Rose will ever mention that Clinton could totally steal the race out from under Bernie and we who support him here in California. (California is the most crooked state in the Union, voting wise.)
Two: No mention of the fact that should it come down to Trump and Clinton, Hillary will lose Big Time! While if it came down to Trump and Bernie, Bernie would win.
Why is it that Karl Rove himself is planning in helping out Clinton? Is it because Rove suddenly likes the Clintons?
Or because Rove likes Trump?
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Also notice that during the first eight minutes, there is so much negativity about how Bernie will lose in NYC. No mention of how scandalous the Newspaper Headers and Hillary's PAC is!
questionseverything
(9,646 posts)compared to the same peops talking on msm
the 99 will take over the democratic party, the centrist triangulating crap is dead and these guys admitted same
(did not mean to ever imply the discussion was perfect but for tv it was pretty good)
btw the blackboxes are the biggest determent to actual democracy we face
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Discussions about Truth on a major network.
questionseverything
(9,646 posts)it is worth a watch..i was shocked actually intelligent discussion was allowed