If Sanders has less pledged delegates than Clinton, is he seriously trying to steal the nomination

[hill2016]

from her at the convention?

Aren't Sanders supporters against anyone stealing the nomination through the super-delegates?

[neverforget]

1. how is it stealing if the super delegates change their mind?

[KPN]

13. BINGO!

[TheBlackAdder]

21. This OP casts an interesting subtext... Socialists take from wealthy. Corporatists buy people off.

[NWCorona]

2. I don't think it will get to that point.

[Joe the Revelator]

3. If she's stopped winning states, has no momentum and is trailing in the national polls.....

I would expect the SD's to do whats best for the party.

Aren't Clinton supporters for whoever has the best chance of beating the Republicans?

[ibegurpard]

4. it ain't over yet

You know... math?

Is there anyone that actually takes this poster seriously?

[TheFarS1de]

5. Themselves ?

[Kalidurga]

17. We have this poster and DanTex we keep them for the yucks.

[m-lekktor]

6. you don't think superdelegates can think for themselves?

how does one "steal" a living ,thinking human being? you make no fucking sense!

[hrmjustin]

7. If Hillary wins more pledged delegates they can't steal it from her.

If they do a lot of her supporters will not stand for it including myself.

Sanders can only win if he overcomes her pledged delegate lead.

[KPN]

14. Good points --

if Super Delegates changing their minds is "stealing". Sounds like its just changing their minds to me.

Tell me, are you okay with Hillary getting the nomination if Bernie has more pledged delegates?

[Renew Deal]

8. Undemocratic Socialism

[CoffeeCat]

9. I just read more about the pledged delegate count. She may not get to the magic number.

"Clinton would need to win 63 percent of the 1,741 remaining pledged delegates up for grabs to clinch the nomination counting only pledged delegates before the convention, while Sanders would need to win 78 percent."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sanders-camp-100-percent-contest-convention-clinton-doesnt/story?id=38231154

It's possible that either Sanders or Clinton will clinch the nomination with pledged delegate numbers. It's feasible to suggest that neither will arrive at that magic number that seals the deal with pledged delegates.

What happens if she doesn't get to that number, and he keeps cutting into her lead? He's slowly creeping up in national polls and many impending states look decent for him. He's only behind by 10 in NYC and 6 in PA. I don't see how he exits if he's winning states along the way.

I think that's the big problem for her. If she could win several states in a row--or cream him in NY--then she would be able to make the case. I don't think she's going to get that.

I guess we'll see.

Both of them have to deal with MATH.

[hill2016]

10. shouldn't the candidate with the higher pledged delegates count

get the nomination?

[CoffeeCat]

12. I have a general understanding of this...but I'm not the expert

I was under the assumption that if neither candidate reached 2383, at the very end--this is where the Superdelegates factor in.

Once the pledged delegate total is final--then the Supers start being added to the total.

Then, you have a winner.

This was my understanding of the process.

I think there's a stalemate if neither candidate gets to 2383. I don't think either wins. I don't think it would be appropriate for someone to "win" if they didn't get to 2383--even if they did win more pledged delegates. That's the rule, that you need to get to 2383.

But I certainly am not an expert--but this is what I understand the situation to be.

[KPN]

16. But what if its Bernie!?

[oldandhappy]

11. no one is stealing. Sanders is participating in primaries

If either candidate has the necessary votes, those will be cast at the convention. If neither has the necessary votes, the first round of voting at the convention will be as pledged. The second round of voting the delegates are free to vote as they wish. Super delegates are part of the system. Not everyone is happy about that, but it is what it is!

[Cheese Sandwich]

15. Clinton is trying to steal the nomination with super delegates. She has like 400. He has 25.

Get real. Superdelegates are entitled privileged losers. Nobody cares what they do. Just win the pledged delegates and let the superdelegates make their royal super decision.

[silvershadow]

18. You can't steal something that belongs to no one. Whomever emerges with the delegates wins. nt

[pampango]

19. If superdelegates deny the candidate with a majority popular vote and most pledged delegates

for the other one (no matter whether Hillary or Bernie benefits) it will be a sad day.

The superdelegates, by definition, are our 'establishment'. Now if they pick "MY" (losing) candidate, I will be happy that my candidate is the nominee. However, I will understand that the supporters of the other candidate will be rightfully upset that the establishment has overruled the primary result. Who knows what, if any, permanent damage that does to our chances in November.

I try to support a process that is fair in and of itself rather than supporting a process based on my preferred end result. Donald would say that it's all about WINNING and how you do it is secondary if it is any concern at all.

[DanTex]

20. Interesting. So far the Bernie fans here are heavily in favor of having the supers

override the will of the electorate in favor of Bernie.