2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBill Clinton: "It bothers me but I did something yesterday in Philadelphia..."
https://twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/718459179539816451He only almost wants to apologize for it....
peacebird
(14,195 posts)revbones
(3,660 posts)Nice.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Karma
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Almost...
daleanime
(17,796 posts)scscholar
(2,902 posts)Too bad the only other option is someone that treats his three wives badly and parachuted into the party at the last moment to take our money.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)He is publicly distancing his remarks for political purposes, but adds the "almost" indicating he pretty much believes his original assertions.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)He just can't shut up.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)The lower classes. What he said didn't offend or upset a donor or potential donor, so he doesn't feel the need to apologize.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)To suggest that they thought about it. Hillary has wandered in that neighborhood on her vote for the Iraq War.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)QC
(26,371 posts)Pennsylvania has plenty of racists--I used to live in the central part, so I'm not engaging in idle talk here.
BLM is this year's Sister Souljah.
Bill is many things but he's not dumb and he doesn't do things for no reason.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)The central part of the state is just as bad as the south when it comes to racists. I lived in PA for 4 years, so I can definitely back up what you are saying.
QC
(26,371 posts)but I heard racial remarks there that would get you in trouble in my native Alabama.
bjo59
(1,166 posts)with a (now ex-) boyfriend who's Chinese-American... it was hell on earth in terms of racism. As a white person I got my up-close-and-personal education on what it might be like to live with that 24/7. (One example was when he went to get his hair cut at a chain hair salon... every single hair stylist finished who they were working on and disappeared into the back room and there we were sitting in an empty hair salon waiting for a hair cut that never came. Never mind the city trucks that would drive by him walking our dogs in the middle of the day and yell racial epithets.)
awake
(3,226 posts)Yes it was deliberate because in his hart he does not want Hillary to win.
QC
(26,371 posts)passive aggression going on here.
ibegurpard
(17,081 posts)Apologize or don't apologize. But half-assed shit like this just means you have no fucking clue what the problem is and that you're trying to put out a political fire.
Asshole as always.
jillan
(39,451 posts)tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)He used to have an almost otherworldly knack for saying the right thing at the right time...brilliant politician, really.
He seems to have completely lost that edge and comes across as a self-centered preachy oligarch.
Nyan
(1,192 posts)Somebody's gotta make a hashtag out of that.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)What an ego.
awake
(3,226 posts)Now he needs to man up and say just what that "something" was.
seattleite
(79 posts)Love it.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)JSup
(740 posts)He sounds like me. You get angry, do something stupid, know you're doing something stupid but can't stop because you're angry even though you know you'll feel bad later.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)
Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)In my younger days I looked up to this guy and even glossed over his flaws. I can't do that much anymore.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Or, at least, have her explain the art of CYA to him. Something she has a lot of "experience" in.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Over the months, I've seen a lot (actually most) of Sanders' supporters telling minorities how they should feel about various things. I'd rather hear them, to be honest.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)If you truly believe that someone's political positions are determined by race, gender, or sexual orientation, you are the racist, sexist, and homophobe in the thread. Don't even intimate such ignorant things.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)how to think, on the election and a lot of other things where they should just keep their irrelevant opinions to themselves. Sorry.
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)He is clearly has plenty of Minority support. He won the least white state in the whole country for pete's sake!.
Not to mention poll after poll showing he has strong Latino/Latina support. So please stop this, it is borderline racist and divisive.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)But more to the point, NO ONE should be told their opinions are irrelevant, and NO ONE is immune to political criticism just because they happen to have more melanin in their skin. Don't like hearing those expressions of opinion? Too fucking bad.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Thus proving my point...
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)segue into doubling down.
me b zola
(19,053 posts)killbotfactory
(13,566 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)Like he did about Obama to Ted Kennedy, shortly before Kennedy endorsed Obama.
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)It has been pretty widely reported and I don't believe Bill Clinton has ever denied it. Ted Kennedy endorsed Obama shortly afterwards.
http://www.politico.com/story/2010/01/book-obama-biden-clashed-in-08-031302
In lobbying the late Sen. Ted Kennedy to endorse his wife, former President Bill Clinton angered the liberal icon by belittling Obama. Telling a friend about the conversation, Kennedy recalled Clinton had said a few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee, the authors paraphrase. A spokesman for the former president declined to comment on the claim.
frylock
(34,825 posts)islandmkl
(5,275 posts)he should have used 'almost' instead of 'did not' in the Monica fiasco...
could have come off as regular guy tripping over temptation...versus a liar...
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Are you just being a jackass.
Is this a hard-working-white-voter thing?
TheCowsCameHome
(40,270 posts)This time, he blew it.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)Leopards don't change their spots at 70 years of age.
Remember folks, this is the guy who told Ted Kennedy that Obama would have been carrying their bags not so long ago. And the one who way back in the early 90's got a hallmark "Crime Omnibus" passed that had a disproportionately harmful impact on minorities.
demmiblue
(39,684 posts)I feel sorry for her.
awake
(3,226 posts)It solved nothing just made it worse. Bill has not done Hillary any favors I would not be surprised if her Home email server was his idea.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)Glad he's doubling down on his potty mouth racist statement.
He doesn't get it.
But thanks Bill
Orsino
(37,428 posts)I almost feel like he's told me something.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... next time some Teabagger slimeball starts going off on you for being a lying cheater to me, I'll almost defend you.
That cool dude?
madokie
(51,076 posts)Bill Clinton.
He fucked us but good as President. Pretty much all demographics except for the rich