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Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:04 PM Apr 2016

Bill Clinton's BLM Meltdown -- #BlackLivesMatter -- Continuing Story

Last edited Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:39 PM - Edit history (25)

Clinton Confronted by #BlackLives Advocates, Scolds Protesters Like Children



Ongoing news and analysis of Bill's #BlackLives Meltdown.

Key Development:
Internet taking note as Bill Clinton cites black crime to justify failed police and prison policies

Key Moment:
Bill Clinton: 'I Almost Want to Apologize' for Exchange With Black Lives Matter

Recommended Article:
Things Just Got Intense Between Bill Clinton and BLM

Raw Video:
Bill Clinton BERATES Philly Black Lives Matter Protesters

LOL/Ouch:
Van Jones: The "Big Dawg" just peed on the carpet with this one...defending "super predator" language is WRONG!

BREAKING:
Bill Clinton Is 'Almost' Sorry for Being Defensive and Condescending to Black Lives Matter Protesters

OPINION:
Bill Clinton's Black Lives Matter Comments Were Revealingly Honest

Russell Simmons:
Bill Clinton you owe the black community and black lives matter an apology

Life:
Bill Clinton’s Welfare Reform Law Is Kicking Up To 1 Million People Off Food Stamps

Leading Voice:
★ Michelle Alexander Responds to Bill Clinton's Attack on #BlackLivesMatter

Don Lemon Show:
Van Jones and Angela Rye Rebuke Bill Clinton over #BlackLivesMatter Meltdown

Good Read:
Alicia Garza: Bill Clinton's shameless answer to Black Lives Matter protesters

Benjamin Dixon Show:
Bill Clinton Caught Being Bill Clinton

Ben Jealous:
Bill Clinton just did to an entire generation what he did to Sister Souljah a generation ago

Sharpton:
Bill Clinton ‘Lecturing’ Black Lives Matter Protesters Was ‘Inappropriate’

Real News:
Protesters Highlight Bill Clinton's Legacy of Expanding Mass Incarceration

Eddie Glaude:
Response to protest shows Bill is two-faced on America's race problems

Boots Riley:
Bill Clinton isn’t the first person to blame ‘black-on-black crime’ for higher poverty and prison rates

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Bill Clinton's BLM Meltdown -- #BlackLivesMatter -- Continuing Story (Original Post) Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 OP
look at that finger pointing arrogance! TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #1
Reminds me of Hillary's finger pointed at GreenPeace activist Jackilope Apr 2016 #28
This for sure. They would never poke their fingers at their rich donors and pals Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #37
Related: Bill Clinton Is 'Almost' Sorry for Being Defensive and Condescending to Black Lives Matter Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #38
Body Slam: Bill Clinton's Black Lives Matter Comments Were Revealingly Honest Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #41
Bill Clinton’s Welfare Reform Law Is Kicking Up To 1 Million People Off Food Stamps Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #50
How can you be "almost sorry"? JoeyT Apr 2016 #55
Depends on what the definition of is is. Eom noiretextatique Apr 2016 #60
Ouch that's gonna leave a mark Kalidurga Apr 2016 #75
Not as sorry as I am about voting for him Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #82
I'm thinking it's not the finger most of us would be pointing at them. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #43
They should know better than to interrupt Massa when he talkin Press Virginia Apr 2016 #2
Thus all the bleating about the Vatican issue. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #4
I'm surprised Hillary didn't hold a presser in Harlem Press Virginia Apr 2016 #7
Given her "musical chairs" accent shifting... Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #10
Probably watching a Madea movie and Press Virginia Apr 2016 #23
... me b zola Apr 2016 #35
lol.. disillusioned73 Apr 2016 #13
Never ceases to amaze me how creative DU people are. That is hillarious. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #44
It looks like #PopeGate is more important to some people here than #HoodGate Kalidurga Apr 2016 #3
Kind of a Bill specialty noiretextatique Apr 2016 #73
Fact-checking Bill Clinton’s Philly defense of his controversial crime bill: Mostly FALSE Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #5
You should post this as its own OP. Really, do it. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #45
Clintonian Condescension. It's a family trait. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #6
There does see to be a serious pattern here. It's like whenever they let their guard down and show Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #87
Shareable images for continuing internet coverage of Bill's Meltdown Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #8
god, he looks mad. It doesn't pay to cross the king roguevalley Apr 2016 #18
superpredator gif Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #20
The "Big Dawg" just peed on the carpet with this one. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #36
Extreme finger pointing Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #46
Russell Simmons Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #49
2016 vs. 1992 Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #63
I like when he told the "girl" to shut up because Africans are black and there is a HIllary store morningfog Apr 2016 #9
oh massa bill, will you splain to all of us about africa Press Virginia Apr 2016 #11
Ouch. Not his finest hour. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #12
And here I thought Mike__M Apr 2016 #51
That would be too obvious. The Clinton Foundation is located almost a full block away. jfern Apr 2016 #58
I just watched it again...he was so angry and red-faced. Punkingal Apr 2016 #14
Bill Refuses to Apologize Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #15
He should apologize for the hurt his bill azmom Apr 2016 #17
That's the thing I thought he already had apologized for it last year. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #90
Billsplaining. nt grasswire Apr 2016 #29
He went off on those people. azmom Apr 2016 #16
Things Just Got Intense Between Bill Clinton and BLM Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #19
Recommend... KoKo Apr 2016 #30
Yeah, point at me and lie again. It's not working this time. Eat shit. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #21
Those photos remind me of Chris Christie, bloviating bullies both. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #22
I see the similarity in this case Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #54
Each seems to prefer pointing fingers in other's faces. Btw, have we heard from any BLM activists nc4bo Apr 2016 #24
Yes I thought we are the activists. It's allover the internet Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #25
Thanks! There is an eery silence regarding BLM on DU, it's been that way for a while. nc4bo Apr 2016 #27
Guess they served their purpose here... ibegurpard Apr 2016 #40
The topic is still relevant though Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #52
It was all about Sanders noiretextatique Apr 2016 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author noiretextatique Apr 2016 #74
His white hood is slipping a bit.... peacebird Apr 2016 #26
Ouch. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #31
What an interesting photo.... Enthusiast Apr 2016 #59
a little history - not so fun facts SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #57
Bill Clinton Reaches Peak White Mansplain in a Face-Off Against Black Lives Matter Protesters Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #32
I gather 'bringing them to heel' didn't pan out? Nt HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #33
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #34
Hell of a video lift nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #39
Thank you I found it on the internet Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #84
Now we know why Hillary supporters keep posting numerous threads about the debunked Vatican story. B Calm Apr 2016 #42
I have one question pdsimdars Apr 2016 #47
Let's just get the facts out there so people can make up their own minds. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #48
Right Wingers pile on to defend Clinton for raising the issue of "black-on-black crime" Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #53
Perfect noiretextatique Apr 2016 #71
The mask came off for a moment. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #81
not a single bot has offer any spin SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #56
Oh...I've seen one noiretextatique Apr 2016 #61
I saw somebody defend this by bringing up something about Cornell West Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #65
Probably the same person noiretextatique Apr 2016 #68
This is the last thing they want to discuss. They know this is disastrous to the Clinton campaign. B Calm Apr 2016 #62
correct Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #64
Now how did I know Bob Beckle was going to pipe up and say something stupid... Kalidurga Apr 2016 #77
That guy is like an pre-made SNL parody of himself. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #86
+1000 firewall problem noiretextatique Apr 2016 #69
keeping my fingers crossed Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #85
Damn. AzDar Apr 2016 #66
K&R azmom Apr 2016 #67
This is the biggest uglyness of the campaign so far. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #70
Trying to get those swing voters again? noiretextatique Apr 2016 #72
Thus proving she can laugh about you once you stop being valuable to her. B Calm Apr 2016 #78
Months ago I had a post hidden for predicting the Clinton's would dump black voters tularetom Apr 2016 #79
Whoa. They do seem to have shifted tones. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #80
Protesters Highlight Bill Clinton's Legacy of Expanding Mass Incarceration Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #83
great OP! amborin Apr 2016 #88
Thanks. I thought it would look cool to see a bunch of this info combined in a list Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #89

Jackilope

(819 posts)
28. Reminds me of Hillary's finger pointed at GreenPeace activist
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:27 PM
Apr 2016

They just aren't accustomed to being called out. You would never see them point and get angry at the moneyed elites and Wall Street crooks, though. There is nothing a few bucks in the ol' foundation can't overlook.

Third Way Con Artists.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
37. This for sure. They would never poke their fingers at their rich donors and pals
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:19 PM
Apr 2016

Even if they disagreed.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
38. Related: Bill Clinton Is 'Almost' Sorry for Being Defensive and Condescending to Black Lives Matter
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:30 PM
Apr 2016

On Friday, Bill Clinton admitted he was almost sorry about arguing with Black Lives Matter protesters this week over his and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s hand in creating America’s mass incarceration problem. However, as Brandy once sang, almost doesn’t count.

During an appearance at Penn State, the former POTUS pulled out his best folksy charm to make up for how racist and condescending he sounded just 24 hours before in Philadelphia. Via NBC News:

http://theslot.jezebel.com/bill-clinton-is-almost-sorry-for-being-defensive-and-co-1769922859
 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
41. Body Slam: Bill Clinton's Black Lives Matter Comments Were Revealingly Honest
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:39 PM
Apr 2016

...But what was so awesome about his rant was the fact that, for once, we got to see under the veneer of white, liberal political correctness — we got to see a white person with power who's done real harm to our community say what he truly believes. And as a black person, there's nothing I appreciate more than white people being upfront and honest about their problematic beliefs.

While conservatives often make no bones about being openly xenophobic and racist, there's something unsettling about the way many white liberals interact with people of color. Often, liberals are so well-versed on the polite conventions of respectable and appropriate speech that they can become talking-point robots rather than individuals who have their own set of beliefs. This applies to how straight liberals often address the LGBTQ community, how upper- and upper-middle-class people address the poor, and how white people address people of color. There's nothing scarier for a minority than not really knowing what the person across from them actually thinks about their intrinsic worth and their fight against oppression. Bill Clinton, a man we in the black community have faithfully supported for decades while being actively ignored by presidential candidates or used as fodder to advance racist stereotypes for political gain (e.g., Ronald Reagan's "welfare queens&quot , has finally revealed himself in all his glory — and it was an absolutely amazing sight to behold.
...

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/bill-clintons-black-lives-matter-comments-were-revealingly-honest-20160408
 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
50. Bill Clinton’s Welfare Reform Law Is Kicking Up To 1 Million People Off Food Stamps
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:31 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton touted the supposed benefits of the law this week.



“These totally unnecessary cuts would increase demand on the nation’s charitable food system at a time when food banks and other hunger-relief groups are stretched to meet sustained high need,” Diana Aviv, CEO of Feeding America, a national nonprofit that supports food banks, said Friday.

Usually billed as a “work requirement,” the limit on benefits was part of the landmark welfare reform law Clinton signed after campaigning for president on the promise to “end welfare as we know it.” Clinton touted the law’s benefits in response to protesters at an event on Thursday.

“They say the welfare reform bill increased poverty,” Clinton said. “Then why did we have the largest drop in African-American poverty in history when I was president? The largest in history.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-clinton-welfare-reform_us_5707e023e4b0447a7dbc2a9b?xnd5enjd1ihi1kyb9

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
55. How can you be "almost sorry"?
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:22 AM
Apr 2016

Either you're sorry, or you aren't. Is he almost sorry because it's blowing up in his face? That's called not being sorry.

I wish someone had asked him how close to being sorry he was. "Are you at least 3/5ths sorry?"

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
4. Thus all the bleating about the Vatican issue.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:08 PM
Apr 2016

Anything to deflect the attention of black voters from this horrific performance, just ahead of the NY primary.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
3. It looks like #PopeGate is more important to some people here than #HoodGate
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:07 PM
Apr 2016

If I had been a Clinton fan that would have ended it right there and I would make a public announcement to boot. I sure as heck wouldn't be putting up #PopeGate posts instead. But, Camp Weather-vane is fine and dandy with this outrageous display of racism. Yeah I am going to say it. Telling these protesters they are providing aid and comfort to murderers is racist and it's ugly as hell.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
6. Clintonian Condescension. It's a family trait.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:13 PM
Apr 2016

Now that they got what they wanted from the black vote, the real Clintons come out.

Everyone should have learned from their campaign against Obama.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
87. There does see to be a serious pattern here. It's like whenever they let their guard down and show
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:41 PM
Apr 2016

who they really are.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
36. The "Big Dawg" just peed on the carpet with this one.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:16 PM
Apr 2016

The "Big Dawg" just peed on the carpet with this one. @billclinton defending "super predator" language is WRONG!



https://twitter.com/VanJones68/status/718262020936724483

hat tip

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
9. I like when he told the "girl" to shut up because Africans are black and there is a HIllary store
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:17 PM
Apr 2016

in Tanzania.

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
11. oh massa bill, will you splain to all of us about africa
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:18 PM
Apr 2016

maybe start with all those people in Rwanda you did nothing to help?

azmom

(5,208 posts)
17. He should apologize for the hurt his bill
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:33 PM
Apr 2016

caused. Whether intentional or not, it had devastating consequences and he needs to own up to it.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
16. He went off on those people.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:28 PM
Apr 2016

No show of compassion or remorse for all the hurt he caused our communities.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
19. Things Just Got Intense Between Bill Clinton and BLM
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:40 PM
Apr 2016

Bill Clinton and Black Lives Matter protestors sparred on Thursday afternoon over the formers president's policies, which have been linked to the mass incarceration and impoverishment of Black people.

Protestors held up signs calling out presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's use of the term "super predators" to describe gang leaders while boosting for her husband's tough on crime credentials during a 1996 campaign stop.
...

His heated defense of his and Hillary Clinton's crime record reminded some people of the "black on black crime" argument, which insists Black people themselves are solely responsible for incarceration and poverty in their community.

http://www.attn.com/stories/7204/bill-clinton-argues-with-black-lives-matter-protesters

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
24. Each seems to prefer pointing fingers in other's faces. Btw, have we heard from any BLM activists
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:19 PM
Apr 2016

On Bill's Big Boo-Boo yet?

Oh, and that "almost" apology thing he did reminds me of a Republican non-apologetic apology, you know the sort.

What an ass.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
25. Yes I thought we are the activists. It's allover the internet
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:21 PM
Apr 2016

Once you get past the vatican invitation thing.

"Black on Black Crime": Bill Clinton's heated defense of his and Hillary's record was reminiscent

link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511682914

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
27. Thanks! There is an eery silence regarding BLM on DU, it's been that way for a while.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:26 PM
Apr 2016

Kk got some reading to catch up on.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
76. It was all about Sanders
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:38 AM
Apr 2016

Not really BLM. Bill get a pass...that is a quote for one of main Sanders/BLM hyperventilaters.

Response to nc4bo (Reply #27)

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
32. Bill Clinton Reaches Peak White Mansplain in a Face-Off Against Black Lives Matter Protesters
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:48 PM
Apr 2016

Excerpt from jezebel.com:

Bill Clinton Reached Peak White Mansplain in a Face-Off Against Black Lives Matter Protesters

Bill Clinton filled in for his wife and presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton at a rally in Philadelphia, where he proceeded to clash with protesters from the Black Lives Matter movement in a way that can only be categorized as “peak cis white mansplain.”

The incident, which took place on April 7, began when Clinton addressed a group of BLM demonstrators situated near the podium, many of whom held homemade signs festooned with anti-Hillary slogans.

Many of the messages, like “Hillary Clinton Is A Murder” [sic] and “Black Youth Are Not Super Predators” alluded to the former president’s 1994 crime bill—Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act—which has since been held responsible for a rise in mass incarceration rates.

According to Reuters, ten years after the bill was passed into law, “6 percent of all black men in their 30s were in prison, a rate six times higher than that of white men of the same age,” with 1.56 million prisoners overall incarcerated in federal or state institutions.
...
more: http://jezebel.com/bill-clinton-reached-peak-white-mansplain-in-a-face-off-1769764915
 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
47. I have one question
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:55 PM
Apr 2016

Remember when the campaigns were in the south and many of us wondered why the PoC were supporting Hillary and they were berating people for not understanding anything and to just shut up with our opinions on the subject.
What I wonder is if they are starting to change their minds about that? Or are we still stupid and ignorant for thinking Bill and Hillary were HORRIBLE for AA.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
48. Let's just get the facts out there so people can make up their own minds.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:02 PM
Apr 2016

Everybody has a right to their opinions and their own vote. If anybody wants to vote for Hillary that's their business.

This is for all voters to know what's going on with Bill Clinton vs #BLM protesters.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
71. Perfect
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:32 AM
Apr 2016

This just keeps getting better. A bunch of rw assholes defending him now. True colors shining through.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
61. Oh...I've seen one
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:38 PM
Apr 2016

Brought up Bernie's use of the word ghetto and said Bill gets a pass. But had no comment about the Clinton's blocking a wage increase for Haitian workers.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
65. I saw somebody defend this by bringing up something about Cornell West
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:29 AM
Apr 2016

That's not going to work this time.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
62. This is the last thing they want to discuss. They know this is disastrous to the Clinton campaign.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:43 PM
Apr 2016

That's why they are posting so many OP's on Bernie and the Vatican.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
77. Now how did I know Bob Beckle was going to pipe up and say something stupid...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:50 AM
Apr 2016

They just can't freakin help themselves.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
85. keeping my fingers crossed
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 07:20 AM
Apr 2016

If Bernie can near tie in New York it will keep him alive. No matter what happens he says he is staying .

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
70. This is the biggest uglyness of the campaign so far.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:32 AM
Apr 2016

The Clintons could not wait to kick blacks to the curb apparently.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
72. Trying to get those swing voters again?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:39 AM
Apr 2016

That's what their tough on crime stuff was about the first time. Maybe it's because Bernie is winning over more Black voters.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
79. Months ago I had a post hidden for predicting the Clinton's would dump black voters
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 07:17 AM
Apr 2016

After they got big victories in the south on the strength of black votes.

Sheesh. You had to be blind not to see this coming.

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