2016 Postmortem
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Clinton Confronted by #BlackLives Advocates, Scolds Protesters Like ChildrenOngoing news and analysis of Bill's #BlackLives Meltdown.
Key Development:
Internet taking note as Bill Clinton cites black crime to justify failed police and prison policies
Key Moment:
Bill Clinton: 'I Almost Want to Apologize' for Exchange With Black Lives Matter
Recommended Article:
Things Just Got Intense Between Bill Clinton and BLM
Raw Video:
Bill Clinton BERATES Philly Black Lives Matter Protesters
LOL/Ouch:
Van Jones: The "Big Dawg" just peed on the carpet with this one...defending "super predator" language is WRONG!
BREAKING:
Bill Clinton Is 'Almost' Sorry for Being Defensive and Condescending to Black Lives Matter Protesters
OPINION:
Bill Clinton's Black Lives Matter Comments Were Revealingly Honest
Russell Simmons:
Bill Clinton you owe the black community and black lives matter an apology
Life:
Bill Clintons Welfare Reform Law Is Kicking Up To 1 Million People Off Food Stamps
Leading Voice:
★ Michelle Alexander Responds to Bill Clinton's Attack on #BlackLivesMatter
Don Lemon Show:
Van Jones and Angela Rye Rebuke Bill Clinton over #BlackLivesMatter Meltdown
Good Read:
Alicia Garza: Bill Clinton's shameless answer to Black Lives Matter protesters
Benjamin Dixon Show:
Bill Clinton Caught Being Bill Clinton
Ben Jealous:
Bill Clinton just did to an entire generation what he did to Sister Souljah a generation ago
Sharpton:
Bill Clinton Lecturing Black Lives Matter Protesters Was Inappropriate
Real News:
Protesters Highlight Bill Clinton's Legacy of Expanding Mass Incarceration
Eddie Glaude:
Response to protest shows Bill is two-faced on America's race problems
Boots Riley:
Bill Clinton isnt the first person to blame black-on-black crime for higher poverty and prison rates
TheSarcastinator
(854 posts)Put it back in your pants, Bill. It's ugly.
Jackilope
(819 posts)They just aren't accustomed to being called out. You would never see them point and get angry at the moneyed elites and Wall Street crooks, though. There is nothing a few bucks in the ol' foundation can't overlook.
Third Way Con Artists.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Even if they disagreed.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)On Friday, Bill Clinton admitted he was almost sorry about arguing with Black Lives Matter protesters this week over his and former Secretary of State Hillary Clintons hand in creating Americas mass incarceration problem. However, as Brandy once sang, almost doesnt count.
During an appearance at Penn State, the former POTUS pulled out his best folksy charm to make up for how racist and condescending he sounded just 24 hours before in Philadelphia. Via NBC News:
http://theslot.jezebel.com/bill-clinton-is-almost-sorry-for-being-defensive-and-co-1769922859
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)While conservatives often make no bones about being openly xenophobic and racist, there's something unsettling about the way many white liberals interact with people of color. Often, liberals are so well-versed on the polite conventions of respectable and appropriate speech that they can become talking-point robots rather than individuals who have their own set of beliefs. This applies to how straight liberals often address the LGBTQ community, how upper- and upper-middle-class people address the poor, and how white people address people of color. There's nothing scarier for a minority than not really knowing what the person across from them actually thinks about their intrinsic worth and their fight against oppression. Bill Clinton, a man we in the black community have faithfully supported for decades while being actively ignored by presidential candidates or used as fodder to advance racist stereotypes for political gain (e.g., Ronald Reagan's "welfare queens" , has finally revealed himself in all his glory and it was an absolutely amazing sight to behold.
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Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Clinton touted the supposed benefits of the law this week.
Usually billed as a work requirement, the limit on benefits was part of the landmark welfare reform law Clinton signed after campaigning for president on the promise to end welfare as we know it. Clinton touted the laws benefits in response to protesters at an event on Thursday.
They say the welfare reform bill increased poverty, Clinton said. Then why did we have the largest drop in African-American poverty in history when I was president? The largest in history.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)Either you're sorry, or you aren't. Is he almost sorry because it's blowing up in his face? That's called not being sorry.
I wish someone had asked him how close to being sorry he was. "Are you at least 3/5ths sorry?"
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Bill might wanna put some ice on that.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)in the primaries at least.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Anything to deflect the attention of black voters from this horrific performance, just ahead of the NY primary.
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)to explain why "baby daddy talking cray cray"
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)...it may be only a matter of time.
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)working with Chelsea as we speak
me b zola
(19,053 posts)disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)that made me giggle, thanx
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)If I had been a Clinton fan that would have ended it right there and I would make a public announcement to boot. I sure as heck wouldn't be putting up #PopeGate posts instead. But, Camp Weather-vane is fine and dandy with this outrageous display of racism. Yeah I am going to say it. Telling these protesters they are providing aid and comfort to murderers is racist and it's ugly as hell.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)I am not sure it will be as effective now as it was in the 90s.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Now that they got what they wanted from the black vote, the real Clintons come out.
Everyone should have learned from their campaign against Obama.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)who they really are.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)The "Big Dawg" just peed on the carpet with this one. @billclinton defending "super predator" language is WRONG!
https://twitter.com/VanJones68/status/718262020936724483
hat tip
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)in Tanzania.
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)maybe start with all those people in Rwanda you did nothing to help?
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Mike__M
(1,052 posts)the Hillary store was on Wall Street. I feel so dumb.
jfern
(5,204 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Bill Clinton Almost Wants to Apologize to Black Lives Protester
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/04/08/bill-clinton-almost-wants-to-apologize-to-black-lives-protester-over-tiff/
azmom
(5,208 posts)caused. Whether intentional or not, it had devastating consequences and he needs to own up to it.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Maybe he's getting senile?
grasswire
(50,130 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)No show of compassion or remorse for all the hurt he caused our communities.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Bill Clinton and Black Lives Matter protestors sparred on Thursday afternoon over the formers president's policies, which have been linked to the mass incarceration and impoverishment of Black people.
Protestors held up signs calling out presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's use of the term "super predators" to describe gang leaders while boosting for her husband's tough on crime credentials during a 1996 campaign stop.
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His heated defense of his and Hillary Clinton's crime record reminded some people of the "black on black crime" argument, which insists Black people themselves are solely responsible for incarceration and poverty in their community.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,336 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)On Bill's Big Boo-Boo yet?
Oh, and that "almost" apology thing he did reminds me of a Republican non-apologetic apology, you know the sort.
What an ass.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Once you get past the vatican invitation thing.
"Black on Black Crime": Bill Clinton's heated defense of his and Hillary's record was reminiscent
link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511682914
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Kk got some reading to catch up on.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Not really BLM. Bill get a pass...that is a quote for one of main Sanders/BLM hyperventilaters.
Response to nc4bo (Reply #27)
noiretextatique This message was self-deleted by its author.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Bill is not KKK but he used to appeal to them with photos like these:
On Stone Mountain "White Supremacy and the Birth of the Modern Democratic Party"
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)The four stalwart white men protecting us from malevolent black men.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Excerpt from jezebel.com:
Bill Clinton filled in for his wife and presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton at a rally in Philadelphia, where he proceeded to clash with protesters from the Black Lives Matter movement in a way that can only be categorized as peak cis white mansplain.
The incident, which took place on April 7, began when Clinton addressed a group of BLM demonstrators situated near the podium, many of whom held homemade signs festooned with anti-Hillary slogans.
Many of the messages, like Hillary Clinton Is A Murder [sic] and Black Youth Are Not Super Predators alluded to the former presidents 1994 crime billViolent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Actwhich has since been held responsible for a rise in mass incarceration rates.
According to Reuters, ten years after the bill was passed into law, 6 percent of all black men in their 30s were in prison, a rate six times higher than that of white men of the same age, with 1.56 million prisoners overall incarcerated in federal or state institutions.
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HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,332 posts)Thanks for the thread, Cheese Sandwich.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I usually do not run such photos, but that is kind of impressive
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Remember when the campaigns were in the south and many of us wondered why the PoC were supporting Hillary and they were berating people for not understanding anything and to just shut up with our opinions on the subject.
What I wonder is if they are starting to change their minds about that? Or are we still stupid and ignorant for thinking Bill and Hillary were HORRIBLE for AA.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Everybody has a right to their opinions and their own vote. If anybody wants to vote for Hillary that's their business.
This is for all voters to know what's going on with Bill Clinton vs #BLM protesters.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Yes: Why Bill Clinton Is Right About Black Lives Matter
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-bill-clinton-right-about-black-lives-matter-15722
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)This just keeps getting better. A bunch of rw assholes defending him now. True colors shining through.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)It was ugly under there.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)they know
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Brought up Bernie's use of the word ghetto and said Bill gets a pass. But had no comment about the Clinton's blocking a wage increase for Haitian workers.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)That's not going to work this time.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Or group. They tend to stick to the same message.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)That's why they are posting so many OP's on Bernie and the Vatican.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)They just can't freakin help themselves.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Especially with NY and CA on the horizon
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)If Bernie can near tie in New York it will keep him alive. No matter what happens he says he is staying .
AzDar
(14,023 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)The Clintons could not wait to kick blacks to the curb apparently.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)That's what their tough on crime stuff was about the first time. Maybe it's because Bernie is winning over more Black voters.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)After they got big victories in the south on the strength of black votes.
Sheesh. You had to be blind not to see this coming.