2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIronically “Jane Sanders” is Trending as She is Being Attacked by Sexist HRC Supporters
https://pivotamerica.com/ironically-jane-sanders-attacked-hillary-supporters-manner-sexist-comments/This attack definitely makes the Clinton campaign look very desperate. Many believe they attacked Jane to get Bill Clinton off the trending list.
This is horrific... These people have doo doo in their hearts and souls.




Zira
(1,054 posts)the poster who said #Hillbros and #Hillbullies and #Hillfans are as bad as Trump fans, is right.
dr60omg
(283 posts)I am tired of the spin and hyperbole ... I wouldn't mind being back in the 1990's because I was so much younger then ... but, come on already this stuff is ludicrous ... this is spin, parse and triangulate AND a sleight of hand ...
I am tired of Clinton games
Zira
(1,054 posts)She may want to reign them in because it's already gotten too ugly.
Donald Trump pulled this and showed that it's a fail tactic.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)villager
(26,001 posts)And then doubling down on websites like this, with their hall-of-mirrors echo chamber...
pa28
(6,145 posts)I know it's going to be a very long time before I forget about it.
villager
(26,001 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)According to Hillary supporters all women are not created equal.
Zira
(1,054 posts)vintx
(1,748 posts)How do you mean?
The first thing I thought of when I read that was the 'special place in hell' crap
but that doesn't really seem to fit.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)But we're not alone, the things they've said about Susan Sarandon, Rosario Dawson and Jane are really disgusting.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Hillary supporters love to complain about Bernie Bros, but everything they say and do is what they complain about. The really odd thing is I see people talking about Hillary's record and they call that personal attacks.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)At least none that won't get me PPR'd...
AxionExcel
(755 posts)...just wanting to shit all over the place and shit on everything because they hate women and hate democracy.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)They are closer to Trump supporters really.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)In one breath they support Hillary, and in the next they can't figure out why the other folks on the South Side of Chicago (those with darker skins) aren't doing as well as they are.
You know, Civil Rights and all that.
Never mind the inherent racism, where the people of color pay such high interest rates and end up in certain neighborhoods, etc.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)The Hillary camp, with their shiny, new campaign tactic, "Disqualify, Defeat and Unify" is going at warp speed.
They said it would happen and here it is.
Day 3 of the shit show.
This is exactly the kind of classless junk that Trump throws out.
I doubt that the Clinton camp made those Tweets. Possibly they were hacked. However, her campaign is in crazy, slash-and-burn mode and is spinning out of control.
We've always said that the Democratic party is better than the clown-car Republicans. Bernie supporters are, but Clinton and her "DDU" mess clearly are in their own clown car.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)of any of this.
Hope some decent Hillary supporters tackle these tweets.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)I can't imagine Hillary would ever stand for crap like this.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Not glamorous or stuffy. She hasn't gotten "made over" (yet.
).
Part of her appeal is I can imagine her at the local farmers market, the library browsing, in her favorite jammies reading with a cup of tea.
Its her utter lack of artifice that's simply lovely.
radical noodle
(10,595 posts)I do not approve of the opinions expressed in the OP and I'm sure Hillary would not. This contest is not about looks, and only the most superficial people would criticize someone for that reason. There may be many reasons to criticize Jane Sanders, but let's talk issues, not appearance.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)claims about how Sander's campaign are all obnoxious sexist "berniebors" who have a monopoly on trolishness is a load of happy horseshit.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)I prefer being up here on the high ground with you.
silenttigersong
(957 posts)TDale313
(7,822 posts)And they claim to be all about social justice. And then they behave like a bunch of mean girls trashing her appearance.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)Or it could even be a bunch of Trusters or Cruisers trying the same thing. They saw how Bernie went off because of the Washington Post Headline. They know he will absolutely become unhinged talking about his wife this way. If it is Hillary supporters doing this I hope they stop and Hillary should say something about it to condemn this behavior. I have seen Hillary supporters all over the Internet and even here and they are by far the most civil and thoughtful supported and do need to stoop to this bullshit.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Own it.
artislife
(9,497 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)when the tweets are right there in front of your eyes.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Some are probably trolls. I doubt Clinton would approve, but I don't know that any candidate can stop his/her supporters from being idiots.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)Showing their true colors.
I think Jane Sanders rocks! And I think she'll make an awesome first lady, far better than Hillary-Superpredator-Clinton.
I'm very sure Jane made two fans for every one of those idiots. I'm very sure she knows that too.
Rock on, Jane!
Hillary may soon be wearing orange, and decorating for small spaces.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)timlot
(456 posts)I was taken back when Bernie "checked" her on stage.
"Don't stand there."
"Go on git"
polly7
(20,582 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)Why? I don't know. Wires? His view?
eridani
(51,907 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Do try and keep up.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)That's a great combo.
global1
(26,507 posts)saying something to the effect that she's not being treated fairly because she's a woman.
Zira
(1,054 posts)When I see him standing behind her, he has an odd smile like he has serious dementia and is happy in his own world.
artislife
(9,497 posts)that really makes him look old.
It could be the millage and not the years on Bill...
Nanjeanne
(6,589 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)"Jane Sanders is a little bit slutty and a little bit ugly"
He is a great feminist! I know because he works for Hillary Clinton, but even a feminist Icon like him can make mistakes, like slut shaming and making the victim of sexual harassment appear as the offender, it happens all the time that such supporters of women's rights as he make little mistakes like that.
Anita Hill was a Professional black woman of impeccable integrity and so I can't help but see HIM as:
"A little bit Racist and a little bit Salacious"
grasswire
(50,130 posts)I think of Jane's style as a little bit "far north hippie." Her style will be something different for the WH, but it will be every bit American, and a style that millions of women can relate to. No Oscar de la Renta, thank God.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)They see such people as inferior, like they see "the help" that do everything but wipe their butts for them.
Me, I like down to earth, I am no materialist and never have been, my wife was down to earth as well and I was rather proud of her for it.
Zira
(1,054 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)And his and Clinton's supporters here would defend it, of that I have no doubt.
jillan
(39,451 posts)But I have to say it...
These Hillary supporters that are going after Jane's figure really blow my mind. Hillary is an attractive woman but she is not exactly petite either. They just carry their curves in different places.
It's really sad that they have to go there.
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)SO digusting, the republicans do the same thing to Hillary calling her cankles. Stuff like that should be denounced 110%
jillan
(39,451 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)although I confess to having wondered why she once wore a brown bathrobe to a debate. That was wrong of me.
The "cankles" is nasty.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Not sure why.
artislife
(9,497 posts)And it had a photo of h in her green pantsuit and a horse with a green turnout blanket. I didn't like or share.
But that pantsuit was fugly and it seemed to be similar materials made for both.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)There isn't enough botox in the world to make her even slightly attractive on the inside.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)They said so. Her "elegant" manners, her expensive "coif" and her pumps.
bjo59
(1,166 posts)Autumn
(48,962 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)shop since being outed here.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)I was volunteering yesterday and I met a kid who trolls for fun, the experience was eye opening. What a waste of time and effort, but I guess it works for some.
Autumn
(48,962 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Autumn
(48,962 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Amazing that people still deny that her supporters can be and are bigots.
jillan
(39,451 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)And those people suck.
Doesn't matter who they are trolling for.
Ask Jimmy Kimmel he does a whole segment on this.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)She may be the most beautiful first lady ever.
polly7
(20,582 posts)I think Michelle is very beautiful, I also think Jane Sanders is.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Can't any of you THINK for a second. Could this POSSIBLY be right wingers trying to sow dissension? No - immediately go into your corners and don't think the of fucking OBVIOUS. How fucking stupid people can be when it confirms their stupid biases.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)You guys aren't saints, stop pretending that you're incapable of prejudice.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)were Hillary supporters? Because twitter shows you voting records? Does anyone use their fucking brains anymore?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Spare me the faux indignation, I've seen their homophobia, misogyny, anti-Semitism and racism on display.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Here? I've seen nothing like that and frankly when I saw Bernie supporters being accused of racism, I assumed it was right wingers causing trouble. But then, I use my brain and don't automatically assume venality from my fellow DUers. Maybe I should.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)We've all seen the screen shots, the time to deny what happened is long gone.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)and search every single post of mine and find even one where I bad mouthed your candidate. Go ahead and prove me a liar. There were times when I had the GD-P forum trashed but you seem to be implying it's much more widespread. Well, not from me and I wont let anyone make that charge against me.
polly7
(20,582 posts)they've been tarred and feathered as a group for something brought over from somewhere else?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Your fellow Hillary supporters have made quite a name for themselves on the net, denying it won't change the facts.
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)Did you know, most people have their twitter, facebook and other pages all linked together? It makes it so easy to share posts across sites, but it also means fake accounts can be traced to a real name somewhere. Then we see what they post "in public"
Not that it's really worth the time usually, but it does help keep the ol skills from getting rusty
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Clearly nobody remotely connected to Hillary would ever say this, EVER.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I've seen much worse from others who also post here.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)is in anyway connected to her campaign or condoned.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)somehow applicable to ALL Sanders supporters?
Always has been the case here, right from the start. So much so that dozens! of 'I formerly supported Sanders but his supporters made me hate him!' after something ugly was brought here.
Lmao.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Many others here have as well, not sure why they're trying to claim purity.
paleotn
(22,215 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I don't believe that crap for a minute. I saw far worse right here from those who trashed African Americans including John Lewis for DARING not to support Bernie and I STILL thought it was 80/20 they were only here to cause trouble. It's like nobody uses their fucking brains anymore.
paleotn
(22,215 posts)ignoring it doesn't mean it's not happening. There's more than enough nastiness on both sides. No issues. Just more bullshit.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Well, that's more than most Bernie supporters will admit. Thanks for that.
TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)how the same doesn't apply to Sanders supporters when bad things are posted ... you guys made the rules , this is all on your lot .
Own it .
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Where have I - because I can only speak for myself - posted anything remotely calling any supporters of Bernie (who I frankly, don't think much of) a racist? Go ahead and find it. I don't have to own a fucking thing. Do YOU speak for all Bernie supporters?
TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)I find it hard to believe this issue is news to you . And your group does own this tactic . Enjoy the fruits of your labour .
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)My post count is because I've been here over a decade and the only group I belong to is my synagogue. I've never said one negative word about your candidate. NOT ONE WORD. I don't own a fucking thing other than my decision to not to bad mouth Bernie. So you can stuff that charge in whatever opening you choose. You've let your hatred of Hillary turn you into a mouthpiece for the worst of a candidate's supporters - hope that makes you happy, sunshine.
TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)Based on your time here your disavowing of the very subject I brought up is disingenuous at best . Double down all you want , my point is valid ...and I didn't even need to revert to profanity to assert my point .
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)you and yours
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)cause she is the woman, or going after her looks.
I have simply stood up for Clinton on FB feeds adn am immediately called the C word. Sexism is an immediate go to.
It is all wrong.
polly7
(20,582 posts).... (or going after her looks.) Your tiny outrage over going after a woman for her looks, squeezing it in between your Sanders diss and what you were subjected to says a lot.
Some opportunities are just too good to miss, eh?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)Making a tiny comment on it in between getting a dig at Sanders first ... and then all about you makes it seem not quite as important as I've seen your outrage over it being done to any other woman.
What's up with that?
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)is wrong. I don't like this behavior at all. Criticize Sanders not his wife and not his wife's looks. Get her on policy.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)BainsBane
(57,757 posts)No better than when Bernie supporters say the same about Hillary.
TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)that when a Sanders supporter does it is representative of the entire group , a Clinton supporter does it ... right wing trolls.
You lot made these rules so own it .
BainsBane
(57,757 posts)Nor do I feel compelled to defend random Clinton supporters around the country, as though their behavior as anything to do with me. Assholes come in all varieties. I see no reason to conclude that simply because someone shares my preference in a political candidate that they are incapable of engaging in assholish behavior.
I recently posted a thread documenting FEC violations by the Sanders campaign, and a poster tried to dismiss the evidence by posting a tweet on an entirely unrelated topic that they attributed to a Clinton supporter, as though it had anything to do with me or the FEC documentation. http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511628659
The point was clear: Don't bother with inconvenient facts. Anyone who fails to support Bernie is disreputable.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Posted by a homphobic, racist troll who runs a blog called 'Go Blindly' and who also happens to be a Hillary supporter? She's a vile bigot and I wouldn't link to her site but that's me.
Her lie was also debunked:
For weeks now, I've seen social media warriors put out the claim that Bernie Sanders has received $23 million in "illegal campaign contributions" from donors. Another common allegation concerns one contribution from a corporation that the FEC questioned.
http://crooksandliars.com/2016/03/no-social-media-warriors-bernie-sanders
Inconvenient facts indeed.
840high
(17,196 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)that this particular pro-Hillary twitter account posts about 12 tweets per hour, and 24 hours a day. Sent them a tweet questioning when they sleep and was told that there are several of them and they take shifts??
HughLefty1
(231 posts)Isn't that always her go to excuse even though she's in bed with most of them.
It probably is a hack but those likely are HER supporters joining in on this..
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)that they have been posting a pro-Hillary agenda for a long time. I think that recent events simply have Hillary camp in a rage and they are simply lashing out. It started with the bird I think and went downhill from there. A series of primary losses probably didn't help either; and now we have the Papal invitation and Jane Sanders getting airtime on the TeeVee and I think it just went into overload conditions. Full tilt.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)beaglelover
(4,466 posts)heads off while doing it!!!!
frylock
(34,825 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)People on the internet act like assholes, particularly towards women. It's a reflection of the internet.
These people no more represent the Clinton campaign than the ones supporting Sanders represented the Sanders campaign.
Beacool
(30,518 posts)People hide behind a keyboard and write horrible things about other people. It's cowardly.
Although, I don't blame Hillary's campaign for the nonsense some wrote on Twitter. Just as I don't blame the Sanders campaign for the virulent posts from the Bernie Bros. All campaigns have supporters who are downright nasty.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Beacool
(30,518 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)We're supposed to be better than this, let the teapublicans wallow in that filth.
Beacool
(30,518 posts)We should be better than Trump, who denigrates women on a regular basis.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Maybe pig poop?
Beacool
(30,518 posts)I like pigs too. Alas, I also like bacon.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Beacool
(30,518 posts)She has made thousands of speeches over the years.
The comments against Mrs. Sanders were uncalled for, yours is almost just as bad.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Wow. I think that's going to require Bill to dust off the meaning of 'is'.
WhiteTara
(31,260 posts)and here's another example. No one can compare to Michelle but all the meanness is uncalled for.
potone
(1,701 posts)Sadly, there is an element of our society that think this is acceptable behavior. All female politicians are aware that there is a different standard for them than for male politicians. The sad thing is that Mrs. Sanders is not used to this level of public attention and public scrutiny, so I hope that she has a thick skin.
I cannot believe that Secretary Clinton would have condoned this, if indeed it came from people connected to her campaign. It certainly doesn't help her. We'll find out soon enough if this keeps happening.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)and "patchouli scented" ?!?! I know who that sounds like. Lots of dirty tricksters about.
Haveadream
(1,632 posts)probably loving the attention.
Have you looked through this person's feed? It is vicious, xenophobic, racist and sexist. It gleefully celebrates the murder of immigrants, blm and the homeless. It is filled with Dem and Hillary hating insults. This person is obviously unhinged and has massive issues.
Dems, please do not feed this troll.
rachacha
(173 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)smiley
(1,432 posts)I especially liked the #Hillbullies tag.
btw.... those tweets are messed up. A little hypocritical don't you think so, HRC supporters?
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)the highest office in the land completely humiliating her family and the entire country. She never put us through every tawdry detail of her double life, or never looked straight into a Teevee camera and LIED to the entire nation. She never asked us to accept a convoluted definition of the word "it". Good lord, I so want these people to go away. Far, far, far, far, far, far, AWAY. Now is good.
SamKnause
(14,896 posts)She is very down to earth.
Her eyes light up when she talks about Bernie.
I think they are a sweet couple.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Oh, wait
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)But the whole "berniebro" phenomenon was always a manufactured meme, like "obama boys"
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/8/1481627/-WOW-Before-the-sexist-Bernie-Bro-Clinton-supporters-created-the-sexist-Obama-boy-No-seriously
RazBerryBeret
(3,075 posts)and it's disgusting. I wish I could make shit like this go away, but unfortunately she (and all of us) will have to learn to handle this. think about all the shit we've had to read and hear about Michelle over the last 8 years.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Zira
(1,054 posts)Actually, nobody deserves that. I was so appalled I just started putting them all on ignore.
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)I've encountered enough wretched, depraved Hillfans to know what they're capable of.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)In fact, I'm bookmarking these for next time one of those lying thirteen-a-dozen "I was for Sanders until his supporters turned sexist" threads is posted.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Somebody was mean to Al Franken once.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Nothing gracious here. And Bill is still around, y'all!!
femmedem
(8,561 posts)I don't support cyberbullying by anyone, and supporters of both candidates have engaged in it. But the bullying of Jane Sanders is as ugly as any I've seen, so there's an amazing lack of self-awareness (or an amazing desire to deflect) behind #EndCyBernBullying.
Edited to add: I appreciate the Hillary supporters on DU who have condemned what was tweeted about Jane Sanders.
carolinayellowdog
(3,247 posts)Hillary vs. Bernie is just its latest incarnation, but by and large the same gang of authoritarian sadists has been proudly demonstrating their Conservadem aggression for a long long time.
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)they are provocateurs, opportunists who love to stir up crap, sit back and watch the show. Trolls are on nobody's side but their own and should not be fed.
SharonClark
(10,497 posts)This is from one deranged person who has set up a twitter account and bashes Jane. You all know Twitter and how easy it is to set up an account. There are many equally ugly twitter accounts that bash Hillary.
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)One person can't make something trend alone. It's not trending anymore, but Jane Sanders was trending at the time this was posted. And a lot of it was Hillary supporters insulting her for her weight, appearance, and clothing.
In the article the tweets can be visited directly in twitter you can see that they are not all the same person.
SharonClark
(10,497 posts)I know it attracted other sexists tweets.
I know it doesn't have many followers.
I know you must know there are equally or worst twitter sites that specialize in bashing Hillary.
Do you want to tell me what else I don't know?
desmiller
(747 posts)dubyadiprecession
(7,450 posts)Never wrote. Desperation in the BS crowd rears it' ugly head.
All in it together
(275 posts)Stop pointing fingers.
We are seeing desperation coming from the Hillary campaign, how they're attacking Bernie, "disqualify, defeat and then unify."
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... be it for real or even false flag, but whoever it is, is disgusting.
Makes me glad I don't have a Twitter account. Lowlife trash.
senz
(11,945 posts)All the Democratic misogynists are on the Hill side.
As if FLOTUS were a beauty contest!
Hill fans here always respond to debates with comments about how pretty Hill looks and how how nice her clothes are.