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bjo59

(1,166 posts)
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:06 PM Apr 2016

Is this True? Bernie speaks in the Vatican on same day Hillary speaks at Hong Kong fundraiser?

Apparently, the day after the NYC debate, both Sanders and Clinton will travel abroad. While Bernie speaks at the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences on the global economy and environmental sustainability, Clinton will attend a fundraiser in Hong Kong hosted by Gary Gensler who was a partner at Goldman Sachs before heading up the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. Read the article multiple times because I thought I was probably missing something - a fundraiser in the global financial capital of Hong Kong?

CORRECTION: hmm. should I delete this post? I just read that article again and revisited the speech schedule. Didn't realize that the speeches listed were for all pro-Clinton speeches no matter who was giving them. Fundraiser, yes. Clinton attendance, no. Sorry!

http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-sanders-pope-clinton-fundraiser/

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Is this True? Bernie speaks in the Vatican on same day Hillary speaks at Hong Kong fundraiser? (Original Post) bjo59 Apr 2016 OP
It's a Clinton fundraiser, but I doubt Hillary would go that far for a few expats jfern Apr 2016 #1
I found it on a list of her upcoming speeches. It's pretty weird. bjo59 Apr 2016 #6
It says Gary Gensler will be headlining jfern Apr 2016 #12
It's like the Universe is slapping us all and saying "How clear can this choice be??" GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #2
Just like I see it. . . . "Do you guys think you're going to hear a voice from Heaven or something?" pdsimdars Apr 2016 #9
If you mean: Hillary Speaks to Hong Kong Donors VS. Sanders Speaks at Vatican Conference KoKo Apr 2016 #13
Except the post is full of falsehoods Trenzalore Apr 2016 #21
Got to follow the money changers Fairgo Apr 2016 #3
Gee, where is the condescending advice for Hillary to forego an overseas trip when she should be djean111 Apr 2016 #4
just in time for primary in heavily catholic NY the bernster pops up at extremely wealthy vatican msongs Apr 2016 #5
How many Dems and Repugs have done the "Bibi Visit to Israel ? KoKo Apr 2016 #16
MSNBC is currently laughing at Bernie for "traveling abroad" just two days before the NY Primary NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #7
Her attendance is listed on Clinton Campaign's list of upcoming Hillary speeches! bjo59 Apr 2016 #8
The poster is correct, and if you follow the link, the lowest donation to attend is $2700 Dragonfli Apr 2016 #14
...worth the look...Thanks! KoKo Apr 2016 #17
Surely the topic of Hillary's discussion will be the 'morality of economics'. Lodestar Apr 2016 #10
MSNBC is currently (I heard it at 6PM) spreading the Margaret Archer lie and discussing it. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #11
Don't want to delete this post bjo59 Apr 2016 #15
Back again... bjo59 Apr 2016 #18
The George Clooney fundraiser appears to be that night riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #19
Do people not remember the ratfucking of Bernie by Hillary that Gary Gensler set up in the debate? BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #20
you should delete this post- or correct the header, since you know it is bullshit. Yep. bettyellen Apr 2016 #22
 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
9. Just like I see it. . . . "Do you guys think you're going to hear a voice from Heaven or something?"
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:21 PM
Apr 2016

Hello!

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
13. If you mean: Hillary Speaks to Hong Kong Donors VS. Sanders Speaks at Vatican Conference
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:30 PM
Apr 2016

about Inequality...Well....I'd go with "The Bern" on this issue.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
21. Except the post is full of falsehoods
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 07:56 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary isn't going to Hong Kong and Bernie isn't a speaker at the Vatican.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. Gee, where is the condescending advice for Hillary to forego an overseas trip when she should be
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:12 PM
Apr 2016

resting/campaigning/dealing with debate issues? The jet lag! The loss of sleep!
Or was the advice given for Bernie merely ageist.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
16. How many Dems and Repugs have done the "Bibi Visit to Israel ?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:33 PM
Apr 2016

It can go both ways. Although Bernie is NOT meeting with the Pope. He is going to discuss issues of Inequality as a Global Issue.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
7. MSNBC is currently laughing at Bernie for "traveling abroad" just two days before the NY Primary
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:16 PM
Apr 2016

So I kind of doubt Hillary will be "traveling abroad". MSNBC would look silly were that the case.

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
8. Her attendance is listed on Clinton Campaign's list of upcoming Hillary speeches!
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:18 PM
Apr 2016

Not reported on in MSM yet (if ever) but there it is, on the Clinton upcoming speeches schedule.
https://hillaryspeeches.com/scheduled-events/

Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
10. Surely the topic of Hillary's discussion will be the 'morality of economics'.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:28 PM
Apr 2016

Goldman Sach's favorite topic!!

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
11. MSNBC is currently (I heard it at 6PM) spreading the Margaret Archer lie and discussing it.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:28 PM
Apr 2016

She said that Bernie was presumptuous and called to invite himself.

I sent them the words and link to that statement from her boss that HE invited Bernie.

"This is not true and she knows it. I invited him with her consensus," said Sorondo, who is senior to Archer.

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
15. Don't want to delete this post
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:33 PM
Apr 2016

because there are interesting posts on the thread; however, I got it wrong about Clinton giving the speech in Hong Kong. It looks like it's Ensler who is giving the speech. Not entirely clear since the schedule of speeches is listed as Clinton speeches. Can someone tell me if it's a good idea just to delete this post? (It's nonetheless an interesting and telling juxtaposition of events.)

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
18. Back again...
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:44 PM
Apr 2016

It looks like the original stories published by US-Uncut and Daily Kos less than 10 hours ago were recently updated with correction saying that she, in fact, was not going to attend the event in Hong Kong. At least now I know I didn't misread what I read in what are pretty dependable sources.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
19. The George Clooney fundraiser appears to be that night
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:48 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/hillary-clinton-george-clooney-fundraiser-221207

It will cost more than four times the average income in San Francisco to have dinner next to Hillary Clinton and the Clooneys there next month.

For two seats at the head table with Clinton, George Clooney and his wife, attorney Amal Clooney, at an April 15 fundraiser, a couple must contribute or raise a whopping $353,400 — a huge ticket price for a hard-dollar fundraiser.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
20. Do people not remember the ratfucking of Bernie by Hillary that Gary Gensler set up in the debate?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:49 PM
Apr 2016

Here's a link to Thom Hartmann's column on it.

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/34497-the-most-disingenuous-attack-on-bernie-yet

<If you watched Sunday's Democratic debate, you learned something interesting about Bernie Sanders: he voted for the Commodities Futures Modernization Act, something Hillary Clinton was all too eager to point out when the two of them got to talking about Wall Street reform.

Sounds pretty bad, right? The guy who goes on and on about how bad Wall Street is actually voted for the bill that crashed economy. So much for all that "political revolution" stuff.

But here's the thing: Hillary Clinton isn't telling a true story about Bernie Sanders and his vote for the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, or CFMA.

As Robert Scheer has pointed out over at Truthdig, then-Congressman Sanders voted for the CFMA, not because he wanted to, but because he had to.

The CFMA had been shoved into an omnibus spending bill at the last minute as part of a deal between Republicans and President Bill Clinton, and because this was a time when, you know, Congress actually did its job, Sanders bit the bullet and voted for the whole package - CFMA included - to keep the government open.>


As Hartmann goes on to point out, Gary Gensler was the one who pushed that CTMA into the Omnibus spending deal with help from Bill Clinton and the Republicans in Congress. Bernie found out about it, and in 2009 he put a hold on Gensler's nomination by Obama to head the CTFC. Gensler was eventually confirmed anyway. Then Gensler told Hillary how to hit Bernie for supposedly supporting something that Gensler himself had jammed into an Omnibus spending bill.

This is who the Clintons are and how they operate. It is karma that the Wall Street weasel Gensler will be hosting a high dollar fundraiser for Hillary in Hong Kong while Bernie is at the Vatican talking about income inequality and the poor.

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