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Can someone fill me in #papalgate? Is Sanders the keynote speaker? What's this conference? (Original Post) hill2016 Apr 2016 OP
The pope will be in Lesbos Greece while Sanders is in the Vatican. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #1
The Pontiff won't even be home?? HA!! NurseJackie Apr 2016 #24
BS will not be speaking. DURHAM D Apr 2016 #2
WRONG. Bernie WILL speak. Avalux Apr 2016 #9
I'll answer your snide OP even though it's obvious you don't really want an answer Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #3
I am just curious as to why anyone would think DURHAM D Apr 2016 #5
People present ideas about things happening in the world. They don't tell the church Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #8
It's what statesmen (and women) do - they build consensus around IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #11
Because unlike your candidate TM99 Apr 2016 #12
Wow, you guys are taking this hard. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #4
+100 nt 99th_Monkey Apr 2016 #6
Has anyone counted the number of ops they've posted about this? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #7
Not caring is apparently very hard work. nt 99th_Monkey Apr 2016 #15
Lost count . TheFarS1de Apr 2016 #16
It is jealousy, and the unhinged hatred of a man who's done nothing to deserve it. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #18
From The Atlantic cyberswede Apr 2016 #10
Practiced naivety alert. Don't fall for it. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #13
first they dismiss, then they laugh, then they attack, then they lose. Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #14
i'm still at the hill2016 Apr 2016 #17
really? even tho hillary's campaign is in attack stage? Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #20
Bernie will be enjoying a luxury Italian vacation, taking in the magnificent and historical DanTex Apr 2016 #19
No. pacalo Apr 2016 #21
Hmmm...Vatican Invite or a chance to influence, speak & chat with Hillary for $353,000? Tough call. jmg257 Apr 2016 #22
Just keep your eyes on the tee-vee. They will explain it all. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #23

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
9. WRONG. Bernie WILL speak.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:19 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders plans to warn against “the idolatry of money” in a speech at the Vatican next week which the Democratic candidate hopes will align his insurgent presidential campaign with the moral preaching of Pope Francis.

“What the pope has been clear about is linking the issue of morality with the global economy and making the point that you can’t have a moral economy when so many people are living in poverty,” Sanders told the Guardian.


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/08/bernie-sanders-vatican-visit-pope-francis?CMP=twt_gu

Nanjeanne

(6,645 posts)
3. I'll answer your snide OP even though it's obvious you don't really want an answer
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:05 PM
Apr 2016

It's a global symposium where people as varied as economist Jeffrey Sachs and philosopher Russell Hittinger and sociologist Jose Casanova present papers that are then discussed by the participants. It's an exchange of ideas by people about what the social, economic and social changes have taken place in the last 25 years that the Church should be responding to.

Sounds fascinating and a wonderful opportunity for thinkers across many areas to exchange ideas.

DURHAM D

(33,092 posts)
5. I am just curious as to why anyone would think
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:10 PM
Apr 2016

that Sanders would have any ideas about how the Roman Catholic church should respond.

I am sorry that Sachs has set Sanders up to be embarrassed in this way.

Nanjeanne

(6,645 posts)
8. People present ideas about things happening in the world. They don't tell the church
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:18 PM
Apr 2016

What to do about it. This is about changes in the world that the Church wants to address. So they will be talking about things that have happened in the past 25 years from an economic, social and cultural standpoint.

Where do you get the idea that Sanders would give any information from a Catholic perspective. He brings his own perspective.

And what in the world does this have to do with Jeffrey Sachs setting Sanders up. Sachs said he helped the Vatican reach out to Sanders. Not the other way around.

Why do you care so much that there are dozens of threads about something that Clinton fans think is so unimportant.

Spend some time being happy about all the great things that Clinton is doing on these days.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
11. It's what statesmen (and women) do - they build consensus around
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:22 PM
Apr 2016

Core and common beliefs. In this case, the issues are about helping the poor and building an ethical economy.

Don't worry - we understand these are issues your team knows nothing and care nothing about.

Bernie's got it covered. Your team can go steal more Haitian aid money for their corrupt friends while children starve in the streets. Or listen to the whine of the money lenders in the temples of Wall Street.

We know you don't get it. Fortunately, we do.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
12. Because unlike your candidate
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:22 PM
Apr 2016

who will be in the Bay Area squeezing the Clooney's and a venture capitalist for more quid pro quo funds, Sanders actually walks his talk. He will be participating as his entire campaign is about economic and social justice. He will be around others in the word who actually are concerned about the morality of economics, while Clinton is demonstrating yet again the immorality of money.

Yeah, we are not the embarrassed ones.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
7. Has anyone counted the number of ops they've posted about this?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:17 PM
Apr 2016

You know, to show how much they don't care that Hillary wasn't invited?


TheFarS1de

(1,017 posts)
16. Lost count .
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:40 PM
Apr 2016

But they all read the same .... jealousy is a horrible trait to air in public but that's all they have right now . It's not like they can talk about Clintons policies as they are only slightly less offensive than some of these postings

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
18. It is jealousy, and the unhinged hatred of a man who's done nothing to deserve it.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:43 PM
Apr 2016

They don't even hate trump this much, they spend all of their time vilifying Bernie.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
10. From The Atlantic
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:21 PM
Apr 2016
Even so, the simple fact of Sanders’s visit is remarkable: As a fairly progressive non-Catholic, he’s a curious choice of a speaker for a group of academically minded priests. In the middle of a tight race to the Democratic convention and presidential nomination, it’s also striking that he’s taking precious time off the campaign trail for a jaunt to Rome.

Jeffrey Sachs, a Columbia University professor who is presenting at the event, said in a phone interview that he helped the Vatican reach out to Bernie Sanders in March, and he doesn’t know why Archer alleged that the Sanders campaign initiated the gig. “The academy sent the invitation, it’s pure and simple,” he said. “A lot of people in the Vatican respect him a lot. He is speaking in the same kind of moral themes that Pope Francis, and the social teachings of the Church, promote, which is a moral economy.” A representative who works with Sachs also passed along an official invitation from Sanchez Sorondo to Sanders dated on March 30. But even though the invite appeared to come from an official Church body, that doesn’t mean it came from Pope Francis, and a spokesperson for the Vatican said it hasn’t been confirmed whether the senator and the pontiff will have a sit-down in Rome.

But although the venue isn’t much like the small-town high-school gymnasiums where Sanders has spent much of his time in recent weeks, this is another moment of Bernie being Bernie: taking any chance he can to decry the ills of the capitalism and the global economy, and to advance his vision of social justice.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/bernie-heads-to-the-vatican/477471/?utm_source=SFTwitter

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
19. Bernie will be enjoying a luxury Italian vacation, taking in the magnificent and historical
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:44 PM
Apr 2016

sights of Rome and the Vatican while sipping on exquisite Italian espresso. An excellent use of his time and his funds. He might attend some boring talks at an obscure conference, but if I were him, I'd skip that and explore the city.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
22. Hmmm...Vatican Invite or a chance to influence, speak & chat with Hillary for $353,000? Tough call.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:19 AM
Apr 2016

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