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Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:30 AM

 

Sanders is listed under "Other Participants" for the conference. Doesn't even have his photo or bio.

http://www.pass.va/content/dam/scienzesociali/booklet/centesimus_annus.pdf

Wish him all the best in Rome. Take some time off to enjoy the sights. You certainly deserve it.

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Reply Sanders is listed under "Other Participants" for the conference. Doesn't even have his photo or bio. (Original post)
hill2016 Apr 2016 OP
beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #1
Kalidurga Apr 2016 #2
JackInGreen Apr 2016 #3
Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #35
brooklynite Apr 2016 #42
okasha Apr 2016 #44
Andy823 Apr 2016 #45
The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #4
Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #21
pangaia Apr 2016 #59
Octafish Apr 2016 #5
itsrobert Apr 2016 #9
GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #15
Octafish Apr 2016 #16
DrDan Apr 2016 #46
Octafish Apr 2016 #50
DrDan Apr 2016 #53
pangaia Apr 2016 #61
DrDan Apr 2016 #64
frylock Apr 2016 #63
R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #10
TM99 Apr 2016 #14
Fuddnik Apr 2016 #19
bjo59 Apr 2016 #28
beedle Apr 2016 #40
Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #36
jmg257 Apr 2016 #6
pangaia Apr 2016 #62
GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #7
revbones Apr 2016 #8
juxtaposed Apr 2016 #12
HERVEPA Apr 2016 #11
whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #13
Fuddnik Apr 2016 #17
noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #18
hill2016 Apr 2016 #30
Vattel Apr 2016 #66
HassleCat Apr 2016 #20
Ken Burch Apr 2016 #22
DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #23
liberal from boston Apr 2016 #24
floppyboo Apr 2016 #25
hill2016 Apr 2016 #31
Politicalboi Apr 2016 #55
Marrah_G Apr 2016 #26
floppyboo Apr 2016 #27
silvershadow Apr 2016 #29
senseandsensibility Apr 2016 #33
reddread Apr 2016 #32
amborin Apr 2016 #34
Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #37
Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #38
TSIAS Apr 2016 #39
AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #41
Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #43
Tarc Apr 2016 #47
The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #56
snowy owl Apr 2016 #48
mythology Apr 2016 #49
NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #51
Trust Buster Apr 2016 #52
snowy owl Apr 2016 #54
Walk away Apr 2016 #57
Post removed Apr 2016 #58
mcar Apr 2016 #60
hill2016 Apr 2016 #67
Ken Burch Apr 2016 #65
hill2016 Apr 2016 #68
ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #69
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:31 AM

1. Don't hurt yourself...

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:31 AM

2. lol pathetic

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:32 AM

3. Can you believe it?

Becky and Chad didn't even sign his year book, Gawwwd.

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Response to JackInGreen (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 11:53 AM

35. The REAL Point is that Hillary WASN'T invited

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Reply #35)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 05:49 PM

42. Neither was President Obama...neither was Elizabeth Warren.

Is there a point here?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #42)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 07:14 PM

44. Nor should they be.

None of them possesses the level of ecpertise in Catholic theology or social justice doctrine to attend an academic seminar on the subject as anything but an observer, if they went at all.

The same is true of Bernie Sanders. He's not going to speak, he's not going to meet with the Pope, and his greatest opportunity to participate will be to ask questions.

But the event has been way overhyped by Sanders and his followers. That's what Hillary supportets are laughing at.

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Response to okasha (Reply #44)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 07:25 PM

45. Exactly

This is just another cheap trick by Devine and Weaver, nothing more. Bernie goofed when he said "yup" when asked if he would meet the Pope, and it has went down hill since then. This was a big mistake for Bernie.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:33 AM

4. LOL!

I've been tempted to put you on ignore, but I just can't bring myself to do it because your posts are so damn funny.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:04 AM

21. + a lot.

LOL.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:30 PM

59. LOOLOLOL OL



MEE TOOO...

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:33 AM

5. Hillary is in Hong Kong that day giving a speech...

...to Goldman Sachs. Do you think she will be addressing income inequality?

http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-sanders-pope-clinton-fundraiser/

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Response to Octafish (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:36 AM

9. Nope, she won't be in Hong Kong.

Where do you get your information?

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #9)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:38 AM

15. Her economy tanking Campaign CFO Gary Gensler will be doing the Hong Kong one...

 

Her highness will be doing the Clooney dinner that same night... She is so crunched for cash she's got to do 2-for-1 night. So tragic.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #16)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 07:50 PM

46. nope - there is a fund raiser in Hong Kong - but Hillary is not attending

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Response to DrDan (Reply #46)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:02 PM

50. Thanks! I stand corrected.

Do you think she'll be at the Clooney's?

Clinton asks for $353,000 to sit with the Clooneys

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/hillary-clinton-george-clooney-fundraiser-221207

That's on April 15, too.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #50)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:08 PM

53. I wouldn't be surprised - some big money to be raised - it's in California

it would probably make sense to attend that one

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Response to DrDan (Reply #53)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:31 PM

61. Since she was blown off by the Vatican, I guess so.

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Response to pangaia (Reply #61)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:37 PM

64. I am quite sure that was never in her scheduler

doesn't make a lot of sense in terms of the election

and she has actually met with Popes in the past

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #9)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:36 PM

63. She's sending a bag man..

or woman! I don't want to face accusations of sexism!

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Response to Octafish (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:36 AM

10. Frankly, yes she will.

 

The ones she will be talking to believe that they are entitled to it all.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:38 AM

14. Truthfully, she is not.

 

Her surrogates are but she will be in the Bay Area at a venture capitalist's house with the Clooney's at a $353k per person fund raiser, so really it is pretty much the same damned thing!

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Response to Octafish (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:52 AM

19. Will they release the transcripts?

"Bad Bankers! Bad!. Now cut that out.! Bad, bad bankers".

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Response to Octafish (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:56 AM

28. I posted about this too but

it turns out that first reports in the media about this had it wrong, probably because it's listed on the list of Clinton campaign speeches. The reports were updated, apparently, later today. However, it is nonetheless instructive that while Bernie is attending a conference on global economics and environmental sustainability there is a $2700 Clinton fundraiser taking place in Hong Kong hosted by Gary Gensler who, before being appointed as chairman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (until 2014), was a partner at Goldman Sachs. When I think "idolatry of money," Goldman Sachs comes immediately to mind! Goldman Sachs: king makers and king breakers.

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Response to bjo59 (Reply #28)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 05:41 PM

40. Yeah, but if we were like Hillary Supporters

 

we'd refuse to accept that the original story was wrong, or we'd blame Hillary for lying about how she was going to give a speech in Hong Kong.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:02 PM

36. Octafish - If this one isn't posted stanealone here - it needs to be




Possible subtitle: Can the contrast be any more Stark? Which side are you on?

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:34 AM

6. Aww -meet at the Vatican doesn't sound nearly as exciting as this pimp dinner...

"According to a report in Politico, Clooney and his wife attorney Amal Clooney will be sitting at the head table of an April 15th fundraiser in San Francisco along with Clinton. To sit alongside the candidate and her celebrity pals, donors just need to raise a cool $353,000."

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Response to jmg257 (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:33 PM

62. I'm in !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL !!!!

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:35 AM

7. Thanks for that link...

 

That settles it that they knew he was running for election when they invited him... So Margaret Archer can go pound sand with her lies.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:35 AM

8. That the official talking point from camp Hillary?

 

Asking since your username seems to imply you work for them. Do they pay well for these types of posts?

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Response to revbones (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:37 AM

12. turd way does

 

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:37 AM

11. Geez. That's bad. I guess no one will know who he is. You post is truly pathetic.

 

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:37 AM

13. Love your website's new direction, Skinner

Congrats!

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:49 AM

17. Funny. They didn't mention you or Hillary at all.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:51 AM

18. Hoity Toity

You probably never noticed this but Bernie's not very hoity toity. I'm sure he won't mind if he's listed under "other participants" or if his photo and bio aren't included. Now if it were Hillary...yeah that would be a problem. And because you are a Hillary supporter I can see why you would notice something like this and why you thought it would make a good op. After all even Chelsea requires certain things before she will consent to speak to a group so I can see why you thought this was real important information to share.

A college balks at Hillary Clinton’s fee, books Chelsea for $65,000 instead


The contract stipulated that Clinton would have final approval of everything, such as the selection of her introducer (celebrities, journalists and elected officials were prohibited from consideration), the onstage setup (there must be “room-temperature water” next to her podium along with “two comfortable armed-and-backed chairs” for the question-and-answer session) and the type of microphone provided for her use (both lavaliere and handheld).

In e-mails with university officials, Clinton’s aides closely edited the texts of news releases, marketing materials and introductory remarks. Clinton’s representatives instructed that a line about her being the daughter of Bill and Hillary Clinton be deleted from one news release and that her title of vice chair of the Clinton Foundation be added beneath her name on an electronic flier. Other materials mentioned her parents, however.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-college-balks-at-hillary-clintons-fee-so-books-chelsea-for-65000-instead/2015/06/29/b1918e42-1e78-11e5-84d5-eb37ee8eaa61_story.html

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Response to noretreatnosurrender (Reply #18)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 11:48 AM

30. it means

 

his role is to just sit down and listen, maybe ask a few questions.

Certainly not to give a speech.

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Response to hill2016 (Reply #30)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:46 PM

66. They don't want him to show up and be a house plant.

 

Maybe you have never been to an academic conference before, but I have been to many, and the purpose is to engage with other on the issues being discussed, not to merely listen to the papers or lectures that are presented. And that would be especially true of those who are personally invited.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:59 AM

20. How much are they paying him?

 

Is he getting a hundred thou for a half hour speech? Are they writing a fat check to his foundation? If not, then he's pretty much a non-person, I would say.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:06 AM

22. So nothing to mock him for, and no issue.

 

Thanks for admitting there was no reason for snark.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:23 AM

23. I think you've really captured the spirit and depth of the Clinton campaign.

 

Thank you for this. It helps me as I try to sort out the issues and determine which candidate I'll vote for.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:37 AM

25. Wow, just wow. Start off negative and - oops - it gets more negative

Maybe this should be moved to the Hillary group? What's the point of starting a post with such an incendiary title if not to troll?

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Response to floppyboo (Reply #25)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 11:49 AM

31. how can facts be incendiary? facts are facts

 

opinions are incendiary.

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Response to hill2016 (Reply #31)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:10 PM

55. Facts

 



Hey look out, Sniper Fire!!!!!!!!! Facts.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:38 AM

26. Your desperation is amusing.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:53 AM

27. For the 1st time at DU I hit the alert button

This is just so plain mean and vindictive. It sizzles with spittle. It makes me cringe and has me wondering how someone can harbour so much hate.
The post remains, but you should go get your gall bladder checked. Andy Warhol - Love is in the gallbladder

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:15 AM

29. Oh the humiliation. How can he even go on?

 

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Response to silvershadow (Reply #29)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 11:51 AM

33. Really.

Dude might as well concede to Hill now.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 11:50 AM

32. Global Rock Star

 

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 11:52 AM

34. revealing yet more ignorance of how conferences work

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:06 PM

37. Bernie,You son of a B!!!!!!

I wonder how Hillary is listed at the Clooneys?
Why, I'll bet if Hillary was invited to the Vatican she'd meet the pope for sure! Too bad she isn't on the list.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:09 PM

38. Yeah, take Jane along, and a good guide book, of course. Make sure to find

 

some unsung "trattoria" to discover real Roman cuisine, and stroll across the Tiber for one of the best views of St. Peter's (you know, that place where you're the special guest speaker).

LOL!

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 05:00 PM

39. Why are you so obsessed?

I'm sure if Hillary wanted to visit the Vatican they would be amenable. You damn well know this isn't some sort of vacation. He has to get back in order to win the NY primary.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 05:46 PM

41. Dont let that stop you from coming apart at the seams

 

Over it

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 06:05 PM

43. I'm sure I've explained this to you before - but for some reason you seem unable to grasp this . . .

So here I go again.

I am speaking as an event producer who has done many large and small types of corporate and other events.

Agendas are very fluid. What is initially proposed and put out typically will change as additional participants are added or, for whatever reason, leave.

This is not the kind of "conference" you seem to want to think it is. It is a small roundtable type conference where important thinkers with varied backgrounds from economic, social and cultural expertise come together to give information and stimulate conversation. The Church will take this information to help them formulate how they respond to this changing world.

Based on the current agenda it appears that Speakers are invited to give a paper (or selected from papers that are given to the organizing committee). Other speakers are also giving viewpoint on the originating paper. Discussion from all attending is followed which allows a good give and take. If that was all Sanders was doing - it would still be a fantastic opportunity for him to give perspective and - I bet from Sanders standpoint - even more important - learn from experts in many fields.

But it is not all Sanders is doing . . .

Originally an agenda was made based on a preliminary agenda (and I can tell you that we usually have many many iterations of preliminary agendas - so I have no idea where this last one stands in the overall scheme of things). Perhaps Senator Sanders was not able to definitively confirm he could be there (perhaps he was waiting to iron out the logistics of the debate and his rally in Washington Park). Since his acceptance - he has now been offered the opportunity to give a talk about the Idolatry of Money. I would expect that the agenda might change a few times before the 14th.

So basically your entire OP is garbage. But then you knew that. You have lots of experience - as I think this might be your 12th or 13th try at it.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 07:55 PM

47. As I said before, this is analogous to the nosebleed seats, or the peanut gallery

A 2nd-tier attendee to a conference where the Pope will not even be in attendance.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #47)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:13 PM

56. Man, those grapes must taste sour.

Here's the press release from the conference, in which Bernie is listed first and described as a "world leader." Doesn't sound to me like they think he's a "2nd-tier attendee."



http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000153-f6c8-de5b-adf3-ffec5f1f0000

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 07:59 PM

48. So? Where's your invite? Why not wait to see just what does happen? B & P are like-thinkers.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:01 PM

49. So?

 

He was still invited to what sounds like a pretty cool thing given his major campaign issue.

This has long since passed being a silly issue.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:02 PM

51. Awww...Hillary camp still having a sad.

 

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:07 PM

52. Shameful political self promotion. Sanders seems to me to be a very selfish man. Not a true leader

 

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:09 PM

54. You expect a program with bio of Bernie at the Vatican? That was a joke, right?

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:14 PM

57. Maybe that bird will show up even if the Pope doesn't!

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:31 PM

60. I've heard Rome is beautiful

Hope I can go some day.

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Response to mcar (Reply #60)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:04 AM

67. you should!

 

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:40 PM

65. He never claimed to be the most important guest there.

 

He just said he was invited by the Vatican(which means invited by the Pope) and this proves he was.

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #65)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:05 AM

68. not really

 

The Vatican is its own state with many organs. Not all decisions are made by the Pope.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:35 AM

69. From what I hear, Sanders wants to discuss the idolatry of money.

Meeting with a handful of global elites at the freaking VATICAN is certainly an interesting approach to the topic!

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:37 AM

70. ...

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:54 AM

71. Promoting a moral economy, like the pope advocates, is amazing...Hillary Clinton should...

 

....promote this idea, our economy treats profit over human life as an essential part of its identity. I think the Pope, like Bernie, are trying to Save Capitalism from itself, from lessening wealth inequality, from putting humanity first over the zero sum economics that now dominates to the detriment of society as a whole. As the wealthiest country in the history of the world it makes no sense that we still have so much suffering from poverty, unemployment and homelessness. There is something fundamentally wrong with the way the world currently operates.

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