Sanders is listed under "Other Participants" for the conference. Doesn't even have his photo or bio.

[hill2016]

http://www.pass.va/content/dam/scienzesociali/booklet/centesimus_annus.pdf

Wish him all the best in Rome. Take some time off to enjoy the sights. You certainly deserve it.

[beam me up scottie]

1. Don't hurt yourself...

[Kalidurga]

2. lol pathetic

[JackInGreen]

3. Can you believe it?

Becky and Chad didn't even sign his year book, Gawwwd.

[Ferd Berfel]

35. The REAL Point is that Hillary WASN'T invited

[brooklynite]

42. Neither was President Obama...neither was Elizabeth Warren.

Is there a point here?

[okasha]

44. Nor should they be.

None of them possesses the level of ecpertise in Catholic theology or social justice doctrine to attend an academic seminar on the subject as anything but an observer, if they went at all.

The same is true of Bernie Sanders. He's not going to speak, he's not going to meet with the Pope, and his greatest opportunity to participate will be to ask questions.

But the event has been way overhyped by Sanders and his followers. That's what Hillary supportets are laughing at.

[Andy823]

45. Exactly

This is just another cheap trick by Devine and Weaver, nothing more. Bernie goofed when he said "yup" when asked if he would meet the Pope, and it has went down hill since then. This was a big mistake for Bernie.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. LOL!

I've been tempted to put you on ignore, but I just can't bring myself to do it because your posts are so damn funny.

[Blue_In_AK]

21. + a lot.

LOL.

[pangaia]

59. LOOLOLOL OL

MEE TOOO...

[Octafish]

5. Hillary is in Hong Kong that day giving a speech...

...to Goldman Sachs. Do you think she will be addressing income inequality?

http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-sanders-pope-clinton-fundraiser/

[itsrobert]

9. Nope, she won't be in Hong Kong.

Where do you get your information?

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

15. Her economy tanking Campaign CFO Gary Gensler will be doing the Hong Kong one...

Her highness will be doing the Clooney dinner that same night... She is so crunched for cash she's got to do 2-for-1 night. So tragic.

[Octafish]

16. Yep.

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/8/1512575/-While-Bernie-meets-Pope-Francis-Hillary-Hosts-Fundraiser-in-Hong-Kong-w-Former-Goldman-Exec

[DrDan]

46. nope - there is a fund raiser in Hong Kong - but Hillary is not attending

https://www.willhillarywin.com/events/hong-kong-dinner-with-gary-gensler-chief-financial-officer/

[Octafish]

50. Thanks! I stand corrected.

Do you think she'll be at the Clooney's?

Clinton asks for $353,000 to sit with the Clooneys

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/hillary-clinton-george-clooney-fundraiser-221207

That's on April 15, too.

[DrDan]

53. I wouldn't be surprised - some big money to be raised - it's in California

it would probably make sense to attend that one

[pangaia]

61. Since she was blown off by the Vatican, I guess so.

[DrDan]

64. I am quite sure that was never in her scheduler

doesn't make a lot of sense in terms of the election

and she has actually met with Popes in the past

[frylock]

63. She's sending a bag man..

or woman! I don't want to face accusations of sexism!

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

10. Frankly, yes she will.

The ones she will be talking to believe that they are entitled to it all.

[TM99]

14. Truthfully, she is not.

Her surrogates are but she will be in the Bay Area at a venture capitalist's house with the Clooney's at a $353k per person fund raiser, so really it is pretty much the same damned thing!

[Fuddnik]

19. Will they release the transcripts?

"Bad Bankers! Bad!. Now cut that out.! Bad, bad bankers".

[bjo59]

28. I posted about this too but

it turns out that first reports in the media about this had it wrong, probably because it's listed on the list of Clinton campaign speeches. The reports were updated, apparently, later today. However, it is nonetheless instructive that while Bernie is attending a conference on global economics and environmental sustainability there is a $2700 Clinton fundraiser taking place in Hong Kong hosted by Gary Gensler who, before being appointed as chairman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (until 2014), was a partner at Goldman Sachs. When I think "idolatry of money," Goldman Sachs comes immediately to mind! Goldman Sachs: king makers and king breakers.

[beedle]

40. Yeah, but if we were like Hillary Supporters

we'd refuse to accept that the original story was wrong, or we'd blame Hillary for lying about how she was going to give a speech in Hong Kong.

[Ferd Berfel]

36. Octafish - If this one isn't posted stanealone here - it needs to be

Possible subtitle: Can the contrast be any more Stark? Which side are you on?

[jmg257]

6. Aww -meet at the Vatican doesn't sound nearly as exciting as this pimp dinner...

"According to a report in Politico, Clooney and his wife attorney Amal Clooney will be sitting at the head table of an April 15th fundraiser in San Francisco along with Clinton. To sit alongside the candidate and her celebrity pals, donors just need to raise a cool $353,000."

[pangaia]

62. I'm in !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL !!!!

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

7. Thanks for that link...

That settles it that they knew he was running for election when they invited him... So Margaret Archer can go pound sand with her lies.

[revbones]

8. That the official talking point from camp Hillary?

Asking since your username seems to imply you work for them. Do they pay well for these types of posts?

[juxtaposed]

12. turd way does

[HERVEPA]

11. Geez. That's bad. I guess no one will know who he is. You post is truly pathetic.

[whatchamacallit]

13. Love your website's new direction, Skinner

Congrats!

[Fuddnik]

17. Funny. They didn't mention you or Hillary at all.

[noretreatnosurrender]

18. Hoity Toity

You probably never noticed this but Bernie's not very hoity toity. I'm sure he won't mind if he's listed under "other participants" or if his photo and bio aren't included. Now if it were Hillary...yeah that would be a problem. And because you are a Hillary supporter I can see why you would notice something like this and why you thought it would make a good op. After all even Chelsea requires certain things before she will consent to speak to a group so I can see why you thought this was real important information to share.

A college balks at Hillary Clinton’s fee, books Chelsea for $65,000 instead

The contract stipulated that Clinton would have final approval of everything, such as the selection of her introducer (celebrities, journalists and elected officials were prohibited from consideration), the onstage setup (there must be “room-temperature water” next to her podium along with “two comfortable armed-and-backed chairs” for the question-and-answer session) and the type of microphone provided for her use (both lavaliere and handheld).

In e-mails with university officials, Clinton’s aides closely edited the texts of news releases, marketing materials and introductory remarks. Clinton’s representatives instructed that a line about her being the daughter of Bill and Hillary Clinton be deleted from one news release and that her title of vice chair of the Clinton Foundation be added beneath her name on an electronic flier. Other materials mentioned her parents, however.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-college-balks-at-hillary-clintons-fee-so-books-chelsea-for-65000-instead/2015/06/29/b1918e42-1e78-11e5-84d5-eb37ee8eaa61_story.html

[hill2016]

30. it means

his role is to just sit down and listen, maybe ask a few questions.

Certainly not to give a speech.

[Vattel]

66. They don't want him to show up and be a house plant.

Maybe you have never been to an academic conference before, but I have been to many, and the purpose is to engage with other on the issues being discussed, not to merely listen to the papers or lectures that are presented. And that would be especially true of those who are personally invited.

[HassleCat]

20. How much are they paying him?

Is he getting a hundred thou for a half hour speech? Are they writing a fat check to his foundation? If not, then he's pretty much a non-person, I would say.

[Ken Burch]

22. So nothing to mock him for, and no issue.

Thanks for admitting there was no reason for snark.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

23. I think you've really captured the spirit and depth of the Clinton campaign.

Thank you for this. It helps me as I try to sort out the issues and determine which candidate I'll vote for.

[liberal from boston]

24. Pope Francis

Another lie exposed: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141408086

[floppyboo]

25. Wow, just wow. Start off negative and - oops - it gets more negative

Maybe this should be moved to the Hillary group? What's the point of starting a post with such an incendiary title if not to troll?

[hill2016]

31. how can facts be incendiary? facts are facts

opinions are incendiary.

[Politicalboi]

55. Facts

Hey look out, Sniper Fire!!!!!!!!! Facts.

[Marrah_G]

26. Your desperation is amusing.

[floppyboo]

27. For the 1st time at DU I hit the alert button

This is just so plain mean and vindictive. It sizzles with spittle. It makes me cringe and has me wondering how someone can harbour so much hate.
The post remains, but you should go get your gall bladder checked. Andy Warhol - Love is in the gallbladder

[silvershadow]

29. Oh the humiliation. How can he even go on?

[senseandsensibility]

33. Really.

Dude might as well concede to Hill now.

[reddread]

32. Global Rock Star

[amborin]

34. revealing yet more ignorance of how conferences work

[Sky Masterson]

37. Bernie,You son of a B!!!!!!

I wonder how Hillary is listed at the Clooneys?
Why, I'll bet if Hillary was invited to the Vatican she'd meet the pope for sure! Too bad she isn't on the list.

[Surya Gayatri]

38. Yeah, take Jane along, and a good guide book, of course. Make sure to find

some unsung "trattoria" to discover real Roman cuisine, and stroll across the Tiber for one of the best views of St. Peter's (you know, that place where you're the special guest speaker).

LOL!

[TSIAS]

39. Why are you so obsessed?

I'm sure if Hillary wanted to visit the Vatican they would be amenable. You damn well know this isn't some sort of vacation. He has to get back in order to win the NY primary.

[AgingAmerican]

41. Dont let that stop you from coming apart at the seams

Over it

[Nanjeanne]

43. I'm sure I've explained this to you before - but for some reason you seem unable to grasp this . . .

So here I go again.

I am speaking as an event producer who has done many large and small types of corporate and other events.

Agendas are very fluid. What is initially proposed and put out typically will change as additional participants are added or, for whatever reason, leave.

This is not the kind of "conference" you seem to want to think it is. It is a small roundtable type conference where important thinkers with varied backgrounds from economic, social and cultural expertise come together to give information and stimulate conversation. The Church will take this information to help them formulate how they respond to this changing world.

Based on the current agenda it appears that Speakers are invited to give a paper (or selected from papers that are given to the organizing committee). Other speakers are also giving viewpoint on the originating paper. Discussion from all attending is followed which allows a good give and take. If that was all Sanders was doing - it would still be a fantastic opportunity for him to give perspective and - I bet from Sanders standpoint - even more important - learn from experts in many fields.

But it is not all Sanders is doing . . .

Originally an agenda was made based on a preliminary agenda (and I can tell you that we usually have many many iterations of preliminary agendas - so I have no idea where this last one stands in the overall scheme of things). Perhaps Senator Sanders was not able to definitively confirm he could be there (perhaps he was waiting to iron out the logistics of the debate and his rally in Washington Park). Since his acceptance - he has now been offered the opportunity to give a talk about the Idolatry of Money. I would expect that the agenda might change a few times before the 14th.

So basically your entire OP is garbage. But then you knew that. You have lots of experience - as I think this might be your 12th or 13th try at it.

[Tarc]

47. As I said before, this is analogous to the nosebleed seats, or the peanut gallery

A 2nd-tier attendee to a conference where the Pope will not even be in attendance.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

56. Man, those grapes must taste sour.

Here's the press release from the conference, in which Bernie is listed first and described as a "world leader." Doesn't sound to me like they think he's a "2nd-tier attendee."



http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000153-f6c8-de5b-adf3-ffec5f1f0000

[snowy owl]

48. So? Where's your invite? Why not wait to see just what does happen? B & P are like-thinkers.

[mythology]

49. So?

He was still invited to what sounds like a pretty cool thing given his major campaign issue.

This has long since passed being a silly issue.

[NorthCarolina]

51. Awww...Hillary camp still having a sad.

[Trust Buster]

52. Shameful political self promotion. Sanders seems to me to be a very selfish man. Not a true leader

[snowy owl]

54. You expect a program with bio of Bernie at the Vatican? That was a joke, right?

[Walk away]

57. Maybe that bird will show up even if the Pope doesn't!

[mcar]

60. I've heard Rome is beautiful

Hope I can go some day.

[hill2016]

67. you should!

[Ken Burch]

65. He never claimed to be the most important guest there.

He just said he was invited by the Vatican(which means invited by the Pope) and this proves he was.

[hill2016]

68. not really

The Vatican is its own state with many organs. Not all decisions are made by the Pope.

[ContinentalOp]

69. From what I hear, Sanders wants to discuss the idolatry of money.

Meeting with a handful of global elites at the freaking VATICAN is certainly an interesting approach to the topic!

[NurseJackie]

70. ...

[pantsonfire]

71. Promoting a moral economy, like the pope advocates, is amazing...Hillary Clinton should...

....promote this idea, our economy treats profit over human life as an essential part of its identity. I think the Pope, like Bernie, are trying to Save Capitalism from itself, from lessening wealth inequality, from putting humanity first over the zero sum economics that now dominates to the detriment of society as a whole. As the wealthiest country in the history of the world it makes no sense that we still have so much suffering from poverty, unemployment and homelessness. There is something fundamentally wrong with the way the world currently operates.