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hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:11 AM Apr 2016

Bernie offers little beyond making us 'mad as hell

by Harold Jackson, Inquirer Opinion Columnist
“Things have got to change. But first, you’ve got to get mad! You’ve got to say, ‘I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this anymore!’ ”— Howard Beale

Forgive me, but I can’t help comparing Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign to Howard Beale, the fictional news anchor in the 1976 film “Network” who sparks a movement based on anger. Let me stress that my comparison ends there. Sanders isn’t really like the suicidal character so magnificently played by Peter Finch. But the “Feel the Bern” movement is similarly based on people getting angry with the status quo.

“The subtext of this campaign is called a political revolution,” Sanders said Wednesday in an endorsement meeting with the Inquirer Editorial Board. “It’s too late for establishment politics,” he said. “I think the bottom line is that American people are really tired of establishment politics and establishment economics.”


Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/under-the-sun/Bernie-offers-little-beyond-making-us-mad-as-hell.html#8eCSuvxs83be5dsM.99

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Bernie offers little beyond making us 'mad as hell (Original Post) hrmjustin Apr 2016 OP
And Hillary offers even less. notadmblnd Apr 2016 #1
please don't feed the strawman GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #14
After listening to any of his repetative stump speeches Sheepshank Apr 2016 #2
Not impressed noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #3
Another editorial board not buying... Satch59 Apr 2016 #4
Trash This Thread is such a wonderful feature. 99Forever Apr 2016 #5
Hilary offers little beyond fictional bullshit: Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #6
Universal public healthcare, public education through Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #7
Elections and issues OkSustainAg Apr 2016 #8
Yeah, he can't lie like Hillary. revbones Apr 2016 #9
Low-information. Here, I'll fix it for you guys~ RiverLover Apr 2016 #10
I have yet to find a Hillary supporter who can make an actual case for voting for her AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #11
Better than what Hillary offers! She doesn't want us to even know what she tells the millionaires. Octafish Apr 2016 #12
Bernie makes me happy and optimistic. Clintonites and their silly faux outrages Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #13
Millions and millions to campaigns from corporate lobbyist. If you're not mad, you should be!! jmg257 Apr 2016 #15
He's mad about something... but I can't quite put my finger on it... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #16
Not true Dem2 Apr 2016 #17
As others have said, he's got plenty of plans... thesquanderer Apr 2016 #18
so weird. Hillary is the one that makes ME mad as hell. Bernie gives me HOPE and restores my faith Hiraeth Apr 2016 #19
So, we're to be dispassionate and obedient robots. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #20
Harold Jackson casts his vote for...the status quo! n/t Orsino Apr 2016 #21
I always get worried when a 74 year old man spends so much time yelling and being mad. anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #22
NEWSFLASH: We were already mad as hell. n/t PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #23
 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
2. After listening to any of his repetative stump speeches
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:15 AM
Apr 2016

..deliineating all of the problems and offering absolutley no tangible processes to fix the problem, he leaves me with the feeling we may as well just all fall on our collective swords.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
3. Not impressed
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:27 AM
Apr 2016

The editorial writer is entitled to his opinion but quite frankly I thought it was very simplistic and relied too much on Hillary talking points. But I thank the person who posted it because it's good to see other peoples opinions even ones that I don't find very impressive.

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
4. Another editorial board not buying...
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:30 AM
Apr 2016

What he's selling...and he seems to be selling words, not real plans. Hope some details emerge in Thurs' debate: it's time Bernie to actually give some details beyond a screaming stump speech...

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
6. Hilary offers little beyond fictional bullshit:
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:34 AM
Apr 2016


Praising Republican villains for doing the exact things they did not do, claiming those who actually did sound the alarms did nothing until Dutch and Nancy bravely showed the way. She sounds like a Reagan Democrat to me. I'll take a big, giant pass at that revisionist lunacy.
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
7. Universal public healthcare, public education through
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:35 AM
Apr 2016

college, realignment of federal spending priorities from military boondoggles to public infrastructure, serious comprehensive reform of our financial system, tax reform to address the obscene inequality of wealth distribution, yeah nothing there at all.

Clinton, on the other hand is running on a promis of nope and no change.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
9. Yeah, he can't lie like Hillary.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:52 AM
Apr 2016

How about when Hillary misspoke about Nancy Reagan's role with AIDS activism?

How about her blatant lie about being under sniper fire?

Maybe when publicly she told unions she'd fight the Colombia Free Trade Agreement, and had her released emails show she lobbied for it, secretly.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
11. I have yet to find a Hillary supporter who can make an actual case for voting for her
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:57 AM
Apr 2016

So they do this instead...

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
12. Better than what Hillary offers! She doesn't want us to even know what she tells the millionaires.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:58 AM
Apr 2016
Democrat Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, who portrays herself as the transparent candidate of the people, just held an event at the governor’s mansion in Denver. But apparently she wasn’t too keen on the press being able to hear what she had to say.

The Clinton campaign took the unusual step of setting up a noise-making device outside her venue so reporters outside couldn’t listen in.

Clinton was appearing at a private fundraiser for deep-pocketed Colorado Democrats, but just as she was about to speak, her staffers turned on some sort of white noise or a static noise-making machine that was pointed at the reporters standing across the street. The device was set up apparently to drown out what she was saying and preventing reporters from hearing any of her comments.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/revealed-heres-what-hillary-just-did-to-block-reporters-from-hearing-speech/


"The most transparent official in modern times." Yeah. Wonder what she tells the billionaires?

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
15. Millions and millions to campaigns from corporate lobbyist. If you're not mad, you should be!!
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 11:09 AM
Apr 2016

Last edited Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:17 PM - Edit history (1)

Dinners with superrich costing $353,000 a plate to buy favor and influence.

Get fucking angry!

Wake the fuck up!!

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
16. He's mad about something... but I can't quite put my finger on it...
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 11:12 AM
Apr 2016


Oh there it is, even his opponent knows his biggest reason for being pissed off... Do these newspapers think people are stupid...

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
17. Not true
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 11:27 AM
Apr 2016

He may not end up being the messenger we want,

but he's most certainly enunciating the message we need.


In other words - he may be ahead of his time, or maybe he's too old, or too grumpy, but I've been complaining bitterly about what he's addressing for years now. I won't be a hypocrite and say that I don't agree with his message. I do have my doubts about his electability/ability to accomplish his goals if elected, but that's true more/less for any candidate that might run.

thesquanderer

(11,995 posts)
18. As others have said, he's got plenty of plans...
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 11:34 AM
Apr 2016

...but you know, maybe real change doesn't happen unless people are mad as hell, too.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
19. so weird. Hillary is the one that makes ME mad as hell. Bernie gives me HOPE and restores my faith
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 11:38 AM
Apr 2016

in humanity. Odd.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
20. So, we're to be dispassionate and obedient robots.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:40 PM
Apr 2016

How very.....practical. We're not to be angry about the status quo, we should just accept it. We're not supposed to be angry about people dying in wars caused by the status quo because it's impractical to be angry at the perpetrators or collaborators. We shouldn't grieve over the dead because grief won't bring them back to life.

Emotions are bad, impractical, unrealistic, and prevent us from accomplishing great things...like killing people efficiently.

No thanks.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
22. I always get worried when a 74 year old man spends so much time yelling and being mad.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:14 PM
Apr 2016

His doctor says he has hypercholesterolemia, but I hope his blood pressure is okay.

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