2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDon't the Sanders supporters understand the facts on the ground?
I see constant amazement and surprise that all hands are on deck opposing Senator Sanders' campaign. That constantly amazes and surprises me to no end.
Let me spell it out in clear, concise terms that anyone can understand.
EVERYBODY IS AGAINST US.
That is what was meant by "the Establishment" back when this started.
It means anyone with any stake in keeping things going the way they are is going to oppose Sanders like he was going to take money out of their pockets. Well, yeah, he will.
He is going to shake up the system and everyone who has a stake in the system is going to do anything they can to derail his campaign.
And keep in mind that HRC has NO NEED to do anything herself. Everyone who sees the threat Sanders presents to the way things work at this point in time will do whatever they think they need to do to put a stake through the heart of that threat. HRC doesn't have to call Brock to start up memes and such. He is an expert at it. She doesn't have to tell the Blue Review to attack like a rabid pit bull. The owner will do it all on his own. None of these surrogates and spokespeople and liars need any direction from the top. She doesn't have to tell low level election workers to materialize boxes of surrogate forms, almost all overwhelmingly in her favor.
All HRC need do is stumble along in her bubble of praise from her supporters, go plead for bucks from big dollar donors and give quick, pithy rehearsed responses to any question she deems worthy of her attention. Same as it ever was.
All that stands against the Leviathan is a bunch of those "little people" who have to learn about the issues in this campaign from going to a Sanders rally, and then start spreading the word among their friends and relatives and coworkers. THAT is the only path open to Sanders because ALL of the media is in the tank. The mistake is thinking they are in the tank FOR HRC. The reality is that they all have a stake in things going along the way they have been, the way they have become comfortable with since the news stopped being a public service and became Entertainment Tonight. The New York Times? Capehart's Washington Post? What's left of the magazines and daily newspapers?
The pundits now claim that HRC has to move to win over the hearts and minds of the Sanders supporters (and the army ant like network of small donors nourishing the campaign). That would actually be easy to do, in theory, assuming anyone believes any commitment she might make (which is, of course, another question) to work for free tuition, to work to clean up Flint (remember Flint?), put an end to our disastrous (ok, her) disastrous involvement in the Middle East, move towards single payer health care, and break up the hold the wealthiest interests have on our political process, no matter what side of the aisle you're talking about. Simple enough. That was generally the Democratic platform before Bill Clinton and the rich guys on the Third Way front turned politics away from working for the people to standing by the table hoping for scraps.
I have no idea how this is going to turn out. Our only hope, failing a Sanders nomination, is that the GOP will put forth a candidate that even their own voters can't tolerate. What a sad state of affairs.
So, Sanders folks? Stop talking to the trolls and idiots around here and get out on the streets, make phone calls and email friends. There is nothing here for us.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)Either he is an establishment Democrat or he is not a Democrat and is just an independent trying to hijack the Democratic Party.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)a. A group of people holding most of the power and influence in a government or society. Often used with the.
I consider a white man, three decades in govt pretty well hits the definition.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)While others who are part of the establishment use it to their advantage in million$ of different way$.
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)A white woman with more than three decades involved in Corporate America and Politics?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)You do know Bernie is a politician right? Hillary is also a politician. All Bernie is doing that is different is trying to encourage us all to vote for change from the established ways of failure for the lower and middle-class to trying to make it better. Simply as that!
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Sanders is running to help other human beings.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)wouldn't be in it first and foremost for himself like every other presidential candidate who longed to be President in the history of the republic. When is the canonization?
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)You can find pics in his supporters' posts showing St. Bernardo in his robes with miter and scepter.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)supporters are attributing miracles to him he's going to beat Mother Theresa for an expedited sainthood.
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)is why you are clueless about what is at stake in this election. I feel sorry for you.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Cracks me up every time he talks like he isn't a part of it.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)That Mr Smith when he went to Washington! Sure he was an outsider at first, but then we see him yucking it up on the floor with the people he was supposedly there to bring a message too. Did he stay an outsider, no you can clearly see in the picture below he is INSIDE the building!
And here you can see he is clearly drinking on the job!
Shame on you Mr. Smith! Supposed outsider! Everyone knows that the only way to be an outsider is to never be part of the system! If he wanted to be one he should have never ran for office to serve his people!
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)Fictional??????
That completely negates my entire point! I need to switch my delegate vote at once when I go to the convention! Next you are going to tell me that the editor Pinocchio for the WaPo is also fictional?
But don't tell him if it is true, it will make him sad...
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)is all you guys seem to understand.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)on ad hom.
anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)Heh.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Being a member of congress does not in and of itself make one a member of the establishment.
The same as being 'rich' doesn't make one a good or bad person.
It is ones attitude and behavior towards human beings and the planet we live on that determines that.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)accomplishments (i.e. laws proposed and passed) maybe he really isn't.
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)libtodeath
(2,888 posts)when you have something intelligent to say.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)libtodeath
(2,888 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)denying her establishment nor creating them as evil.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... bird tell you that too!?
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)to the Tea Party. You have neither the votes to win an election nor the votes in Congress to dictate to the rest of the country.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)I fear fall will be a depressing time for you.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)**Poof**
You're fucking gone too.
Bye bye.
philly_bob
(2,419 posts)My guess is Sanders, but that's just a guess. I'd like to see some reliable studies.
Henhouse
(646 posts)Sad but true....
Henhouse
(646 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)I just didn't in this primary.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Is Pretty damn funny
azmom
(5,208 posts)win New York. Let's get to work people.
Latinos for Bernie! Si se puede!
pangaia
(24,324 posts)2cannan
(344 posts)because I thought it was another one of the Bernie bashing threads. I'm going to make another donation right now.
boston bean
(36,223 posts)noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)In addition to the excellent advice in the OP I would also add get bumper stickers on your cars and signs in your yards for visibility. Start writing factual and civil letters to your local newspapers. It doesn't matter if you subscribe to the newspapers you need to get Sanders message out any way you can. Before you get on DU again do something in the real world first.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)There's data entry, bring food, host out of state campaign workers, deliver yard signs, etc.
Its going to take all of us!!
Milestone
(37 posts)You must have touched a nerve LOL.