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Hillary's Ridiculous Attack Ad (Original Post) alan2102 Apr 2016 OP
No, we can't!!! The Hillary Campaign attacks from the right again. k8conant Apr 2016 #1
coming from the right because they are the right litlbilly Apr 2016 #7
I have news for Hillary- BERNIE IS COVERING HRCs ASS ON GATS Baobab Apr 2016 #16
I have NEWS on lots of FREEPERS attacking Clinton and Sanders here... Jeffersons Ghost Apr 2016 #26
So you absolutely nothing on the topic of the OP? 99Forever Apr 2016 #48
Disingenuous And "Inaccurate" Nonsense from Hillary Is Not At All Unusual! What IS Unusual Is For.. CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #52
She's got nothing she stands for so making up lies and attacking Bernie is all she's got. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #2
why not try shutting the hell up about Sanders and Clinton... Jeffersons Ghost Apr 2016 #24
No. on both counts. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #54
And John Heileman looks foolish again..sigh..n/t monmouth4 Apr 2016 #3
please let her put out more like this Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #4
"Easily debunked" BainsBane Apr 2016 #20
yep i did. got the link bookmarked. which questions exactly did he not answer to your satisfaction? Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #27
Let's focus on the ad BainsBane Apr 2016 #35
That's because the written decision of that case had not been released yet. beedle Apr 2016 #37
ok. why did they ask him about an insurance company in the middle of a discussion about banks? Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #51
Some of us here sure have, so if you're one of them (finally), you'll see the bunk... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #40
Sure looks like the ammo bag is getting a little thin. litlbilly Apr 2016 #5
actually Bernie provided a whole arsenal BainsBane Apr 2016 #36
The written decision had not been released as yet beedle Apr 2016 #41
This guy makes some good videos NWCorona Apr 2016 #6
Yes, good vids; check out his youtube channel /nt alan2102 Apr 2016 #17
Wall Street paid for that ad jfern Apr 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Apr 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Apr 2016 #9
Yes, M'AAM/SIR! MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #43
Plus the ad takes Sanders statement completely out of context: k8conant Apr 2016 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Apr 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Apr 2016 #11
That's one of the worst ads I've ever seen BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #14
Proceded Madam secretary Vincardog Apr 2016 #15
That comes right out of the NY Daily News interview BainsBane Apr 2016 #18
Oh boy... malokvale77 Apr 2016 #33
Here is the quote BainsBane Apr 2016 #34
... but look at what the ad is doing here: surrealAmerican Apr 2016 #42
Yes, the question was about the Met Life decision. thesquanderer Apr 2016 #50
Stop it please. The written decidion had not come out yet beedle Apr 2016 #44
How do you type with your fingers in your ears? notadmblnd Apr 2016 #53
half dozen Pinocchios for the HRC team PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #19
Here is the precise quote where Sanders said exactly that BainsBane Apr 2016 #21
Honestly PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #22
The Washington Post has been handing out quite a few lately BainsBane Apr 2016 #23
They come from factcheck.org AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #39
He can't comment on the content of Hillary's transcripts either beedle Apr 2016 #45
You're seriously still going on about that BainsBane Apr 2016 #46
I accept your apology, as poor as it is. beedle Apr 2016 #47
Very good. Thanks for posting. Karmadillo Apr 2016 #25
That's the kind of Hillary Clinton political ad I remember from 2008. bjo59 Apr 2016 #28
Once again a swing and a miss! She is advertising that Bernie wants to break up the big banks. jillan Apr 2016 #29
Oh man... what an awful ad. I realize they want to make Sanders look Marr Apr 2016 #30
Bernie will set the record straight at the debate... CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #31
I STILL BELIEVE IN A PLACE CALLED NOPE Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #32
That's an ad for Sanders. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #38
Camp Lying Liars busted being lying liars AGAIN. 99Forever Apr 2016 #49

k8conant

(3,038 posts)
1. No, we can't!!! The Hillary Campaign attacks from the right again.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:03 PM
Apr 2016

Where are they getting their stupidity?

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
48. So you absolutely nothing on the topic of the OP?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:00 AM
Apr 2016

Just a song (a good song I'll grant you) that has not a fucking thing to do with the topic and a fucking obscure name-calling attempt at _____?

Strong fucking post you've got there.



CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
52. Disingenuous And "Inaccurate" Nonsense from Hillary Is Not At All Unusual! What IS Unusual Is For..
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:52 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary or her campaign... TO ACTUALLY TELL THE FUC**** TRUTH ABOUT ANYTHING!

This young man NAILED IT! GREAT OP!

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
2. She's got nothing she stands for so making up lies and attacking Bernie is all she's got.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:05 PM
Apr 2016

Shows how empty she is.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
24. why not try shutting the hell up about Sanders and Clinton...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:42 AM
Apr 2016

you criticize both candidates!

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
54. No. on both counts.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:49 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders --> GOOD
Clinton --> BAD

That should be clear enough for anyone to get no matter what the comprehension level.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
4. please let her put out more like this
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:11 PM
Apr 2016

No substance and easily debunked by linking to the legislation that he introduced last year.

BainsBane

(57,751 posts)
20. "Easily debunked"
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:23 AM
Apr 2016

You haven't read the NY Daily News interview have you. I've heard these claims about something about Sanders having been debunked more times than I can account, and people can never say what is factually wrong. "Debunking" seems to mean nothing more than a Bernie supporter told other Bernie supporters something they wanted to hear.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
27. yep i did. got the link bookmarked. which questions exactly did he not answer to your satisfaction?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:33 AM
Apr 2016

BainsBane

(57,751 posts)
35. Let's focus on the ad
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:29 AM
Apr 2016

to keep it simple. Here's the exact quote used in the ad, in context.



Daily News: Okay. You saw, I guess, what happened with Metropolitan Life. There was an attempt to bring them under the financial regulatory scheme, and the court said no. And what does that presage for your program?

Sanders: It's something I have not studied, honestly, the legal implications of that.


http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/transcript-bernie-sanders-meets-news-editorial-board-article-1.2588306
 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
37. That's because the written decision of that case had not been released yet.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:36 AM
Apr 2016

Ask Hillary what she thinks of next week's NYT headlines. What??? It's something she had not studied?


My Gawd you people will make any fool stupid accusation won't you.

Anything else you want to ignorantly throw out there?

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
51. ok. why did they ask him about an insurance company in the middle of a discussion about banks?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:49 AM
Apr 2016

This interview published the 4th, now here is an article saying the details of that ruling were just released on the 7th.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/08/business/dealbook/ruling-behind-metlifes-too-big-to-fail-reprieve-unsealed.html?_r=0
"A federal judge ruled on March 30 that regulators failed to properly name the country’s biggest life insurer as “systemically important.” But the decision itself was under seal until it was made public on Thursday."

That is why he didn't know the details.

Next?

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
40. Some of us here sure have, so if you're one of them (finally), you'll see the bunk...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:43 AM
Apr 2016

Or, if you do not have reading comprehension, you'll think the NYDN understands the difference between the Treasury and the "Fed"....

Again, the truth is actually brought out in that long interview, in SPITE of the dullards thinking it hasn't.

BainsBane

(57,751 posts)
36. actually Bernie provided a whole arsenal
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:31 AM
Apr 2016

in his interview with the NYDaily News.

This is about the core issue he runs on, but even that he hasn't bothered to think about beyond campaign slogans.

Daily News: Okay. You saw, I guess, what happened with Metropolitan Life. There was an attempt to bring them under the financial regulatory scheme, and the court said no. And what does that presage for your program?

Sanders: It's something I have not studied, honestly, the legal implications of that.


http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/transcript-bernie-sanders-meets-news-editorial-board-article-1.2588306


Expect a lot more ads directly from that interview.
 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
41. The written decision had not been released as yet
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:44 AM
Apr 2016

The decision had only just been announced, and the written decision (with all the details of why the judge decided they way they did) was not released as yet.

Why don't you ask Bernie to comment on the content of Hillary's Wall. St. Transcripts. Oh, right, they've not been release yet.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
6. This guy makes some good videos
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:11 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary is still running a campaign that doesn't realize that people can instantly fact check now.

This won't play well in NY

Response to jfern (Reply #8)

Response to alan2102 (Original post)

k8conant

(3,038 posts)
10. Plus the ad takes Sanders statement completely out of context:
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:17 PM
Apr 2016
Daily News: Okay. You saw, I guess, what happened with Metropolitan Life. There was an attempt to bring them under the financial regulatory scheme, and the court said no. And what does that presage for your program?

Sanders: It's something I have not studied, honestly, the legal implications of that.

Response to k8conant (Reply #10)

Response to alan2102 (Original post)

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
14. That's one of the worst ads I've ever seen
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:29 PM
Apr 2016

It is so chopped that it looks like a ransom note made out of letters cut out of different magazines and put together to make words. I knew Hillary was tone deaf but could not have imagined that she would think defending the big banks was a winning issue.

BainsBane

(57,751 posts)
18. That comes right out of the NY Daily News interview
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:20 AM
Apr 2016

And is a perfectly legitimate ad. He is campaigning on issues for which he hasn't bothered to consider the details of implementation or consequences.

BainsBane

(57,751 posts)
34. Here is the quote
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:27 AM
Apr 2016

Daily News: Okay. You saw, I guess, what happened with Metropolitan Life. There was an attempt to bring them under the financial regulatory scheme, and the court said no. And what does that presage for your program?

Sanders: It's something I have not studied, honestly, the legal implications of that.


http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/transcript-bernie-sanders-meets-news-editorial-board-article-1.2588306



I watched the ad part. I don't need to watch the Bernie media guy's spin to know the ad is truthful. I read the interview last week. That's not something one forgets.

surrealAmerican

(11,872 posts)
42. ... but look at what the ad is doing here:
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:44 AM
Apr 2016

They are matching his answer to a very specific question about "what happened with Metropolitan Life" with a question about "breaking up the big banks".

He answered the "big banks" question before they asked him this, and his answer was not any variation of "I don't know".

thesquanderer

(13,001 posts)
50. Yes, the question was about the Met Life decision.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:37 AM
Apr 2016

That's a huge misrepresentation that Kyle didn't even touch on.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
44. Stop it please. The written decidion had not come out yet
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:47 AM
Apr 2016

Like Hillary's Wall St. Speech transcripts, Bernie can't comment on their content because no one has seen them yet.

BainsBane

(57,751 posts)
21. Here is the precise quote where Sanders said exactly that
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:30 AM
Apr 2016

Last edited Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:50 AM - Edit history (1)

Daily News: Okay. You saw, I guess, what happened with Metropolitan Life. There was an attempt to bring them under the financial regulatory scheme, and the court said no. And what does that presage for your program?

Sanders: It's something I have not studied, honestly, the legal implications of that.


http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/transcript-bernie-sanders-meets-news-editorial-board-article-1.2588306

Pinocchio's, or lies, are not defined by your discomfort at being exposed to information you don't want to believe but rather by a factually false statement. That ad is accurate, as the transcript of the New York Daily News interview shows very clearly.


Your post is false. Clinton's ad is not.

BainsBane

(57,751 posts)
23. The Washington Post has been handing out quite a few lately
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:36 AM
Apr 2016

To Sanders. A couple of three Pinocchio ratings. One was about his claim she took money from the oil and gas industry.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
45. He can't comment on the content of Hillary's transcripts either
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:49 AM
Apr 2016

The written decision details were not released at the time.

I know, I'm 'stalking' you with the truth.

BainsBane

(57,751 posts)
46. You're seriously still going on about that
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:52 AM
Apr 2016

after people here insist Bernie doesn't need to release his tax returns?

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
47. I accept your apology, as poor as it is.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:57 AM
Apr 2016

Oh, No one said he doesn't need to release them, we're saying you're not going to find anything. Release both. I would more than welcome that.

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
28. That's the kind of Hillary Clinton political ad I remember from 2008.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:53 AM
Apr 2016

Totally misleading and disingenuous. Take a quote out of context, play some dramatic music, imply, imply, imply. It says a lot about her estimation of the intelligence of the US population.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
29. Once again a swing and a miss! She is advertising that Bernie wants to break up the big banks.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:57 AM
Apr 2016

I think people will watch that and say - I agree with Bernie.

Clueless.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
30. Oh man... what an awful ad. I realize they want to make Sanders look
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:00 AM
Apr 2016

incompetent, but it makes him look like a man on a mission, while making HRC look like a stooge for the big banks, telling the world it's impossible to fight her big donors.

This is just an incompetent campaign. Maybe that's what happens when you have it too easy for too long.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
31. Bernie will set the record straight at the debate...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:08 AM
Apr 2016

and Clinton will look like the rabid wolverine from hell that she is.

Bernie calmly and intelligently explained his plan to break up the big banks at a town hall on Good Morning America yesterday.

Let her run her negative ad.

This is what Hillary does when things don't get handed to her and her opponents start gaining (she did this with Obama).

She gets scared. And when she's feeling fear, she thinks the answer is to attack. Or to use her campaign's own words, "Disqualify and Defeat."

I welcome this attack add. Let her continue to run off the rails, while Bernie campaigns the hell out of New York talking about the issues.

We're in the cat-bird seat with Princess Inevitable melting down.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
38. That's an ad for Sanders.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:37 AM
Apr 2016

They just don't get it! What do you think is the net effect of showing Sanders consistently saying: BREAK UP THE BIG BANKS!

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
49. Camp Lying Liars busted being lying liars AGAIN.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:06 AM
Apr 2016

Do these totally corrupt scumbags even know what truth is?

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