2016 Postmortem
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Jesse Lehrich ?@JesseLehrich 2h2 hours agoWow. Even delegate split in the Wyoming caucus.
Jeff Fecke ?@jkfecke 4h4 hours ago
Wow. Bernie appears likely to net *zero* delegates out of Wyoming. That's an utter disaster.
Jesse Lehrich ?@JesseLehrich 2h2 hours ago
Bernie won 18 of 23 delegates in the ID caucus. Splitting WY 7-7 is really quite remarkable.
Jesse Lehrich ?@JesseLehrich 2h2 hours ago
@BernieSanders path keeps getting narrower.
Explains why their plan now is to try to get superdelegates to overturn the will of the people
NaphiSoc ?@NaphiSoc 2h2 hours ago
and introducing the bating order the next *607* delegates to be decided from CLOSED PRIMARY states....#FeelTheMath
mcar
(42,300 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)Two things...
Mathwise he got 8-5 split, but due to the way they divide up the caucus they managed to tie on a technicality...not math, just politics. He got the 56% he needed, he would have needed something closer to 58 to even gain 1 extra delegate. That is math for you. Also Hillary won by ballot harvesting by the sounds of it they are going to try it here in Washington...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/3/13/1500586/-Clinton-Campaign-Caucus-Conniving-in-Washington-State
bigtree
(85,986 posts)...net result?
ZERO delegates for Sanders.
That's the relevant math, for those following the actual election.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)I must have misconstrued the actual definition of math with the political system you are touting. #FeelTheSystem!
mathematics
/ˌmæ?əˈmætɪks; ˌmæ?ˈmæt-/
noun
1.
(functioning as sing) a group of related sciences, including algebra, geometry, and calculus, concerned with the study of number, quantity, shape, and space and their interrelationships by using a specialized notation
Wait I can do the math for you, it is really simple...
Where
Bd=Bernie Delegates
Hd=Hillary Delegates
CD= Congressional District Delegates
A=At-Large Delegates
P=PLEO Delegates
Vb= Popular vote Percentage Bernie
Vh= Popular vote Percentage Hillary
So:
Bd=Vb(CD)+Vb(A)+Vb(P)
Hd=Vh(CD)+Vh(A)+Vh(P)
See very easy, oh and...
6 delegates are to be pledged to presidential contenders based on the support each candidate receives at the State Convention as a whole.
4 at-large National Convention delegates
2 Pledged PLEOs
But that is just proofing the formula with math.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)Enjoy the ride then equally once she loses to the
repug candidate, because it won't be Trump, and I
doubt it will be Cruz.
However, you can tell yourself that everybody else
is guilty for that loss. I can hear you now already, because
you will never be able to admit that your candidate was
never the one to inspire the public.
The point is that you don't want to admit that your
candidate inspired all repugs to come out against her.
In that case you should really look into your mirrors.
bigtree
(85,986 posts)...think they can credibly lecture the leader's supporters in this campaign on electability.
ismnotwasm
(41,975 posts)Only certain popular votes matter don't you know, as has been amply demonstrated
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)bigtree
(85,986 posts)...as long as there's a 'path' to the nom for the revolutionary one.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)they've turned into little conservatives selling fear of a Trump or Cruz presidency when in fact their true fear is change. They have been conditioned to accept terrible deals by democrats, because they were democrats. They learned to praise those crappy deals by democrats, and defend them with much might. They learned to ignore negatives of an issue or a candidate , all so they could be a "real dem".
I see Americans of the democratic right, yes it is what you are if you support Hillary's policies, speak of long time democratic principles as being pie in the sky. I see them condone an immediate reduction of the minimum wage fight, then praise her effort for fighting. I see them complain about wars, yet not take one ounce of responsibility for her part that led to those wars. conflicts. regime changes. Coups. I have no desire to align with people of that nature. I am sure you would understand, if capable.
bigtree
(85,986 posts)...Kate McKinnon's Hillary Clinton on Susan Sarandon's Trump comments. #SNL
One of my favorite movies, ruined by Sarandon in this primary.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)So you liked a movie about women taking control of their lives in a male dominated society, where they choose to never give in again to the pressures of it, and you no longer like the movie because a woman spoke her mind about the political system and did not all in to the gender approved role in society?
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)I was lol at Kate McKinnon's comment on SNL, I never mentioned a movie.
And the graphic is pretty funny too!
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)It was directed at the one before you...
but looks like I selected your thread.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)For the record, I loved Thelma and Louise, and still do. And I love Bull Durham too.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)low paid rural workers because they live in Bodunk. I swear it's like they are getting instructions from Hillary on being a cheap labor conservative. It's a race to the bottom!
bigtree
(85,986 posts)...#cheesecake and a whomp-ass result in Wyoming heading the bill.
...also, math.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)bigtree
(85,986 posts)BainsBane
(53,029 posts)and more committed to "definitely voting for Clinton" than Bernie supporters.
ismnotwasm
(41,975 posts)Thank. God.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)BainsBane
(53,029 posts)In elections, as in policy, it matters.
Logical
(22,457 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)The cynicism, narrow scope and general glumness is depressing. But nice to see someone else feels the same way.