2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWord going around Mitt banged the CEO of Staples wife
Shame on You Mitt.
Apparently the wife is going public with Gloria. He ruined her marriage.
Shame on You Mitt. Homewrecker
northoftheborder
(7,637 posts)SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)doesn't quite come out and say he was doing her, but..
http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/23/mitt-romney-divorce-thomas-stemberg-maureen-staples-gloria-allred-boston-globe/#ixzz2ABGngz5y
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)Wonder if this one is true or false.
ClusterFreak
(3,112 posts)They know their dirt and rarely if ever mess it up.
Let's see how this plays out.
Orangepeel
(13,980 posts)out of money she was owed by her ex-husband. The husband is a big Romney supporter.
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)uncle ray
(3,360 posts)he may have fucked her before he tried to screw her over.
Orangepeel
(13,980 posts)I understand that people want it to be a sex scandal rather than a financial scandal because a sex scandal would get press and might have some effect, whereas people are probably going to yawn about one more financial scandal on top of all the other shady dealings mitt has had.
But you never know, I guess. The guy whose wife senator ensign had an affair with continued to support him, I think.
onecent
(6,096 posts)russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)bluerum
(6,109 posts)mucifer
(25,667 posts)MSMITH33156
(879 posts)when he is running as head of a very conservative party, absolutely.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Mitt Romney could announce that he is the Child of Satan, and it would not even slightly dent his support. They don't care.
Edit: That's why whatever Ms. Allred has up her sleeve is likely to be an unwanted distraction.
Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)spooky3
(38,634 posts)saw his personal issues as being irrelevant to his competence for office. I seem to recall lots of men who were upset about them, enough to bring impeachment proceedings.
Besides, women in general do not support Mitt Romney to the extent that men do. Any scandals will likely have more impact on his supporters.
Individuals of both genders will have differing views of these matters.
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)If so, he told the court one thing and investors another.
And that comes down to a choice. Either he committed perjury when testifying as to the value of Staples in open court or he committed perjury when declaring the value of Staples in SEC filings.
Given the stock history of Staples, it is most likely he lied in court to benefit the husband at the expense of the wife in court proceedings.
Either way, he committed a crime. Women will not forgive him committing a crime to insure his buddy paid less to his ex-wife in a divorce settlement.
spooky3
(38,634 posts)will find that somewhat more relevant to the office than the affairs people are speculating about.
However, my guess is that anyone who would find that objectionable already finds a lot of other things objectionable about Romney, that have previously been confirmed.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)If they cared, they won't vote Republican.
demosincebirth
(12,826 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Republican simply don't give a damn about anything except Mitt is white and he's a Republican. He could be caught red-handed eating the flesh of unborn children and they simply wouldn't care. There is no level of corruption or disturbing personal behavior that could cause them to vote otherwise.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)And while ultimately people don't care after awhile....two weeks out, it will be a bombshell.
IF true.
Tansy_Gold
(18,167 posts)And traditionally, the right wing does that quite comfortably. "The Rich Are Different" and all that. No matter what values the 99% are expected to adhere to, the 1% are, well, different.
A double standard of morality goes hand in hand with a belief system that holds economic and social inequality as fair and normal.
Where was the outrage over Ensign and Vitter and Schwarzeneggar? Over Bristol Palin and Track Palin? Over Larry Craig and Paul Babeu?
The right wing holds the little people to those family values, but the 1% are exempted.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Thank God right-wingers aren't the only ones who vote (as they would like it to be).
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)He's getting some mercy votes, for sure. Something like this could cause many many voters to say "screw it," I KNEW there was something icky about him. For a candidate that is well liked, there is a level of human nature that goes "oh well, no one is perfect," but Mitt doesn't really have that going for him.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I think he's a sociopath, but I didn't see him as an adulterer. Came off to me more like the preacher from "There Will Be Blood", if you ever saw that.
Booster
(10,021 posts)straw that broke the camel's back. They don't really understand what he stands for and they really just don't like him or his wife.
regnaD kciN
(27,640 posts)...a "wholesome, religious family man." Nor does our base demand it.
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)If both are true, he's toast.
And yes, it demonstrates that we are a vapid, idiotic nation if his lying about important issues is unimportant while banging the wife of a CEO of Staples and pushing for her to abort the resulting pregnancy decides the election.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Anything like this that can bring him down should be run with.
ClusterFreak
(3,112 posts)TDale313
(7,822 posts)RedSpartan
(1,766 posts)Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)Best reply ever!
StrictlyRockers
(3,934 posts)Oh, you suck! You really, really suck.
ROTFLMAO!
fearnobush
(3,960 posts)Full of "That was easy."
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,189 posts)madrchsod
(58,162 posts)
for posting that gem
sheshe2
(97,630 posts)He stapled her? What about his magic underwear...did he lose them?
Thrill
(19,342 posts)unsealed.
sheshe2
(97,630 posts):thumb sup:
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)Heh-heh.........heh-heh........heh
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)Historic NY
(40,037 posts)tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)If this is what Gloria has, she can go back to Trumperville.
Thrill
(19,342 posts)and he forced her to abort
Blue Owl
(59,106 posts)LP2K12
(885 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)And the Boston Globe is involved.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)Very seldom. When they are they admit it and apologize.
They've a heavily connected network of informants.
onenote
(46,142 posts)Something "juicy." Well, that covers a hell of a lot, doesn't it. If its anything related to sex I'll eat my hat. People are jumping to conclusions.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)People here assumed that.
The buzz is he lied for his buddy who owns Staples in a divorce. He claimed it was worth less than it was to screw her over.
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/1251170395
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Each wife gets a place of her own. How many houses does Mitt have?
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)lafde
(31 posts)now it makes sense what robme said about binder full of women..
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)elleng
(141,926 posts)sheshe2
(97,630 posts)Big Blue Marble
(5,691 posts)What about the magic underpants?
sheshe2
(97,630 posts)neverforget
(9,513 posts)brewens
(15,359 posts)lady! Gosh, it would be shame if it was true. I mean really a shame!
JohnnyRingo
(20,870 posts)It certainly doesn't sound incredible. After all, he's devoutly religious.
Hahaha
brewens
(15,359 posts)The fun of calling my Idaho Republican friends, "Larry Craig Republicans" has lost it's zing. I really need new material and this may be it!
LuckyStrykes
(115 posts)Andrea Mitchell will concede that Willard has issues. Or she just might blame it on Obama.
LisaL
(47,423 posts)So, got to be something else connected to the divorce.
Fred Bastiat
(5 posts)it would be a non issue. But in Puritanical America it is a big deal. Although, if you are JFK or Bill Clinton, you get a pass on banging chicks while you are IN the whitehouse.
It will be fun to see how this plays out considering Gloria's practice is more based on sensationalism than facts and actually getting courts to act on her filings.
Stocking up on popcorn to watch the show play out in the last two weeks!
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)1) Blair Hull's divorce records in the 2004 Democratic Primary for the US Senate Seat.
2) Jack Ryan's divorce records in the 2004 US Senate General Election.
Fucking David Axelrod is a motherfucking genius at this shit.
Fred Bastiat
(5 posts)to win an election: count me out. That is just pure sleazy.
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)If you don't like it, good riddance.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Were you?
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)Guess this wasn't your only bad post.
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)And again, I reiterate.
This is fucking WAR. There are no rules of civility in this shit.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)Bet they already have one that high they're having to rest for a bit because their first post was too hot. Typical.
Johnny Fobus
(2 posts)but most of my posts are not spammed or deleted. Admin just shuts me down. It is probably because I am overseas using a weird internet connection where my IP address bounces around, I work for the US Dept of State and stationed overseas and we are required to use this connection method. We are not supposed to go on sites like this with this connection, but really fuck it. I am losing my $200k/yr job soon when Romney is elected and I lose my job as my position is not cadre but more politically appointed.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)....but go ahead and count yourself out anyway.
Lex
(34,108 posts)progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)That sounds more plausible. I think we've just skimmed the surface of what's wrong with Mitt. usually these things pop up when someone goes "oh, shit... he should NOT be president" or whatever the office is.
LuckyStrykes
(115 posts)...and in politics, dirt will be dug.
No wonder Trump is coming out with his non-story tomorrow.
lexx21
(321 posts)BelieveMe3
(134 posts)this assumes anyone other than Ann would have sex with Romney.
But also if he banged his wife, would the guy still be tight with Romney? I think not.
Response to BelieveMe3 (Reply #54)
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Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)It makes you feel bad for the president. The Romney story sounds sleazy as shit. If the Romney campaign thinks that a story about rough times in the Obama marriage due to finical hardship will cancel out a story about Romney having an affair with a friend's wife, they are sorely mistaken.
Then again, who knows if either of those are our "bombshells" tomorrow. I wouldn't be suprised if the Obama story is actually that he first tried a cigarette when he was 14 and the Romney story is that he was delinquent on paying inheritance taxes or something. Time will tell
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)I wonder how they'll pretzel themselves when it's revealed by Mitt's own mouth that he did the nasty with somebody and it resulted i a nasty divorce.
It will definitely be entertaining.
LisaL
(47,423 posts)What are the chances of records unsealed and gag order lifted?
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)Axelrod has succeeded twice before in these things. Nobody would be making any sort of a deal about it if there was no chance.
chowder66
(12,245 posts)dny121
(8 posts)Why does an affair have to be with the wife? just saying. The gag order could pertain to Romney and the CEO, and that could have caused the divorce.
Hello Everbody, been lurking for a bit.
chowder66
(12,245 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)children
Bigleaf
(2,050 posts)smorkingapple
(827 posts)We know how Republicans will turn anything negative into a positive. They'll use this to rally around Romney.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts).......aaaaaaand like clockwork.
If the depositions aren't released, the story dies quickly.....
....and if they are, you'll be here to cry about that too.
smorkingapple
(827 posts)So you say exactly what I said... No depositions, no impact..
WTF?
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I didn't say exactly what you said. You said if the depositions aren't released "They'll rally around Mitt, oh woe...we're screwed...". I say the subject will never be broached by any of them nor the lamestream media.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)smorkingapple
(827 posts)Let's see your analysis...
MjolnirTime
(1,800 posts)lafde
(31 posts)He outsource his easy button to china. I think there is something mitt is hiding that why he looked so fucked up last night during the
debate.
Pilotguy
(438 posts)The link to the Boston Herald article is now dead. Maureen sounds like a wack job.
Staples founders ex-wife: Ill be out on the street
By Margery Eagan
Boston Herald Columnist
Sunday, September 3, 2006
Maureen Sullivan Stemberg, ex-wife of Staples founder, sits in her $5,200 a month, 14th-floor, concierge-at-the-door, elegantly furnished Back Bay apartment and tells you shes broke. She cant work. She cant afford a car, her medications, her rent, even the family springer spaniel, J.J., who she just gave away.
She produces doctors notes detailing medical woes: possible lupus, bouts of pneumonia requiring hospitalizations, a history of cancer, petit mal seizures, plus recommendations for thrice weekly psychotherapy and psychiatry. She says her insurance wont cover mental health care.
Im going to be out on the street, says Sullivan Stemberg, a tiny, 50-ish woman who alternates between an overanxious recitation of worries, and tears. Ive had a change of circumstances.
And now she wants her ex-husband, Tom Stemberg, whose worth has been estimated at upwards of $150 million, to dramatically increase his support, guarantee health insurance forever and buy her another home in a concierge building. Im sicker and thinner every day, she says. Im not asking for anything more than he did for his other wife and girlfriend.
Tom Stemberg, meanwhile, hailed as an entrepreneurial genius, has just gone through a second divorce and is now living with the mother of his newest child. His paternal shortcomings are evident in a letter he wrote to his then-12-year-old son with Sullivan Stemberg. It will not be possible for you to be part of our family in the foreseeable future because of the childs supposed misbehavior during their divorce, he wrote, blaming the child for taking sides between parents and creating unbearable hassles, such as monthly court appearances.
Enter a political angle: That same child, the same year - 1996 - approached Mitt Romney, an early Staples money man, during a chance vacation meeting. The Wall Street Journal and Sullivan Stemberg herself say her son asked Romney for an appointment to speak about his mothers problems, financial and otherwise.
Apparently this did not cause Mitt Romney alarm. In April, our would-be president began an op-ed article, also for the Journal, this way: Only weeks after I was elected governor, Tom Stemberg told me that if you really want to help people, find a way to get everyone health insurance, Romney wrote. When Romney expressed doubts, he said, Stemberg insisted, You can find a way.
One hopes Romney was unaware at press time of the first Mrs. Stembergs cries for help.
Now those of you who follow mega-rich divorces may recognize the nasty, sad Stemberg saga. For two decades its been detailed in the Herald, the Journal, Forbes magazine, everywhere. Soon after their 1987 divorce, Sullivan Stemberg was worth $5 million, but she spent $4 million contesting her settlement and defending a defamation suit brought by Stemberg and his second wife. At one point Sullivan Stembergs lawyer is quoted as saying, These people acted like adolescents. You want to pick them both up by the ear . . .
Spokesman George Regan insisted Friday that Tom Stemberg is a very generous man, that their son has a hefty trust fund, that Stemberg has paid and will continuing paying her insurance - though no word on the house or increased support. He also said Sullivan Stembergs characterization of her ex-husband is unfair. Shes shopped this story all over town, Regan said. Theres no story.
But there is. The story is what a rich, local superstar has done, or not done, for the mother of his son who cant support herself anymore. Its hard for mere mortals to relate to this, I know. Still, despite the awfulness on both sides, he should give her the money.
Until then, heres hoping Romney and other local luminaries skip the Stemberg accolades. The personal is political here, and the personal reeks.
LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Response to libdem4life (Reply #73)
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Iris
(16,872 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)is not a gamechanger. However banging her in front of a group of peeps might make some folks change their vote but it is definitely not a gamechanger. Family court tells me the issue is one of PATERNITY, CUSTODY, or CONSENT. The former two would be a minor game change but the last one would be seismic.
onenote
(46,142 posts)All I see is a bunch of DUers jumping to assume that the "juicy" information that is under seal relates to a Romney affair, even though logically that seems rather unlikely since the woman's husband was and continues to be a close Romney friend and big supporter.
LisaL
(47,423 posts)Gotta be something else connected to that divorce.
GetTheRightVote
(5,287 posts)GoCubsGo
(34,914 posts)Mr. Staples CEO was on Chris Hayes' show this past Sunday (or was it the previous Sunday?). It seemed to me like he had no problem with Romney, or his presidential run. If Willard helped ruin his marriage, I don't think he would have been that friendly toward him.
the husband is Mitt's gay lover? That would explain why he is still a Mitt supporter.
Retrograde
(11,419 posts)I sent in my vote for Obama last week. I doubt it's going to change anyone else's either at this point.
kerouac2
(1,495 posts)that would help with the male white vote, ya think?
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)sleaze
Brother Buzz
(39,900 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Colbert's superpac however....
Also, this is just too much for the late night comedians to pass up and you can bet Jon Stewart is thanking the comedy gods.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Romney testified at their divorce, apparently as to the value of Staples stock the the spouse was receiving as part of the settlement. Remember that the Staples "success" story is one of the cornerstones of Mitt's "CEO as President" personna. It could be that there is some embarrassing statements that Mitt made under oath about the management of the company.
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)does not roll trippingly off the tongue