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Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:39 PM

 

Bernie is flying to Europe for a 10 min speech.Has he thought about teleconferencing (or even Skype)

it's the 21st century now.

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Reply Bernie is flying to Europe for a 10 min speech.Has he thought about teleconferencing (or even Skype) (Original post)
hill2016 Apr 2016 OP
RiverLover Apr 2016 #1
GummyBearz Apr 2016 #18
Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #29
RiverLover Apr 2016 #33
Octafish Apr 2016 #35
noiretextatique Apr 2016 #73
Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #37
Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #42
noiretextatique Apr 2016 #72
Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #78
noiretextatique Apr 2016 #81
Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #83
RiverLover Apr 2016 #90
Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #53
Human101948 Apr 2016 #54
Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #57
Human101948 Apr 2016 #62
Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #65
Human101948 Apr 2016 #69
840high Apr 2016 #88
Marr Apr 2016 #70
noiretextatique Apr 2016 #74
LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #80
2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #2
polly7 Apr 2016 #3
Armstead Apr 2016 #4
Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #5
Avalux Apr 2016 #6
Tarc Apr 2016 #26
NWCorona Apr 2016 #48
Tarc Apr 2016 #50
NWCorona Apr 2016 #51
Tarc Apr 2016 #56
frylock Apr 2016 #60
Tarc Apr 2016 #63
frylock Apr 2016 #64
NWCorona Apr 2016 #67
The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #7
Armstead Apr 2016 #22
Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #8
Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #9
kennetha Apr 2016 #10
MineralMan Apr 2016 #11
jmg257 Apr 2016 #15
NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #24
jmg257 Apr 2016 #31
NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #34
jmg257 Apr 2016 #36
Lucinda Apr 2016 #38
jmg257 Apr 2016 #39
Lucinda Apr 2016 #43
jmg257 Apr 2016 #46
MineralMan Apr 2016 #40
jmg257 Apr 2016 #45
NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #12
Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #13
The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #16
NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #21
Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #47
Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #49
jmg257 Apr 2016 #14
kennetha Apr 2016 #17
CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #19
Wilms Apr 2016 #20
jillan Apr 2016 #23
DebDoo Apr 2016 #25
rachacha Apr 2016 #27
jberryhill Apr 2016 #28
bjo59 Apr 2016 #30
DrDan Apr 2016 #32
pangaia Apr 2016 #41
anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #44
Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #52
oasis Apr 2016 #55
frylock Apr 2016 #58
Bjornsdotter Apr 2016 #59
wendylaroux Apr 2016 #61
larkrake Apr 2016 #66
cyberswede Apr 2016 #68
Marr Apr 2016 #71
Puglover Apr 2016 #75
Vinca Apr 2016 #76
Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #77
Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #79
northernsouthern Apr 2016 #82
silvershadow Apr 2016 #84
TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #85
840high Apr 2016 #86
ladjf Apr 2016 #87
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:40 PM

1. Man, you guys are jealous.

Its just sad.

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:48 PM

18. Haha dont you know?

 

If he only speaks for 10 minutes they think he will only make ~$11K instead of the $225K for an hour!!

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:55 PM

29. From a pure campaign standpoint it is the wrong thing to do at this time, but when

I said that to my friend who also supports Bernie he said:

"The god endorsement, is pretty important"



He has god on his side now!

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #29)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:58 PM

33. Well, God does seem to prefer Bernie.




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Response to RiverLover (Reply #33)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:00 PM

35. It's like a sign.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #35)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:18 PM

73. +1000

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #33)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:02 PM

37. Knowing what I know about god and Bernie, you might be right.

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #33)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:06 PM

42. God prefers Bernie because a bird landed on his podium?

 

Good lawd....

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #29)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:17 PM

72. Is this today's talking point?

A political miscalculation? It will not hurt him in any way, and most definitely help him. That is the problem, for some.

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Response to noiretextatique (Reply #72)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:26 PM

78. Ridiculous attack of me, a Bernie voter. It is an obvservation that I think most

attuned political folks agree with.

What is it with certain folks around here who cant talk to you without attacking you?

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #78)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:35 PM

81. Whatever

You sure post like a Hillary supporter. As I said: it will be a plus for him. That's why there is so such furious spinning.

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Response to noiretextatique (Reply #81)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:42 PM

83. I post like someone who supports whoever the candidate is, and someone who

doesn't give two shits about the party, as well.

I post like someone who has been around long enough to know how much damage the right is capable of.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #83)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:11 PM

90. ...but do you know the damage the right can do from within the Democratic Party while

pretending to be Democrats?

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:41 PM

53. It's not like Clinton has never addressed an international audience. Sanders ... this is Yuge.

 

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #53)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:44 PM

54. Pretty much only when they paid...

 

$153 million in Bill and Hillary Clinton speaking fees, documented

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/hillary-clinton-bill-clinton-paid-speeches/

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Response to Human101948 (Reply #54)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:47 PM

57. Yeah, Sanders likes to stay home. Even beyond the paid engagements, HRC is well traveled and...

 

... internationally known.

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #57)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:53 PM

62. She will be even better known and loved when she gets control of the military...

 

"We came, we saw, he died," she joked when told of news reports of Qaddafi's death by an aide in between formal interviews.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/clinton-on-qaddafi-we-came-we-saw-he-died/

Itís worth remembering that while Clinton infamously voted to invade Iraq, of course, she was also notably trigger-happy during her time at the State Department. These days, youíre more likely to hear about Benghazi when the topic of Clinton and Libya comes up, but far more important was the key role she played in pushing for intervention there in the first place.

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/10/what_hillary_clinton_wants_you_to_forget_her_disastrous_record_as_a_war_hawk/

And so it goes.

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Response to Human101948 (Reply #62)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:00 PM

65. You think I just arrived at DU and didn't see all that shit? Try to stay on topic.

 

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #65)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:06 PM

69. Yes, Ms. Schoolmarm....

 

I promise never to do it again.

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #53)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:10 PM

88. She talks to God daily - how

 

much does she charge God?

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:07 PM

70. Yeah-- they're blowing me away with this stuff.

 

It's like something from junior high school.

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Response to Marr (Reply #70)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:20 PM

74. Really...so petty and ridiculous eom

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Response to Marr (Reply #70)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:29 PM

80. Deep thinking isn't exactly amongst their collective strong suits

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:41 PM

2. You seem very concerned

 

Try to relax.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:42 PM

3. ........

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:42 PM

4. Fail and flail

 

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:42 PM

5. It still stings don't it.

That the Vatican sees Bernie in a better light than the Iraq War promoter that is running against him.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:43 PM

6. Worried about a pic of Bernie and the Pope are you? I would be too. n/t

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Response to Avalux (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:53 PM

26. I wouild be worried too, as it would indicate that there is an impostor afoot

Pope Francis and Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, spiritual leader of the world's Orthodox Christians, will visit the Greek island of Lesbos next week...

The Greek government issued a note saying the pope and patriarch would be visiting Lesbos on April 14-15 along with Athens Archbishop Ieronymos, and that Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras would join them.


Sanders visit to Vatican sows confusion

The conference, organized by the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, will be held on April 15 ó just days before the crucial New York primary, in which Sanders is hoping to upset his rival Hillary Clinton in her home state.


Whoopsie!

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Response to Tarc (Reply #26)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:22 PM

48. Your facts are out of date

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Response to Tarc (Reply #50)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:40 PM

51. From your link

"Greek church authorities recently approved plans for Pope Francis to visit the Greek island of Lesbos on Saturday, April 16 "

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #51)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:47 PM

56. Unless the Vatican has teleporters, it takes some time to travel, bro

All indications thus far have been that the Pope will be elsewhere, and not attending this conference.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #56)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:52 PM

60. The flight time from Rome, Italy to Athens, Greece is:

1 hour, 49 minutes

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Response to frylock (Reply #60)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:54 PM

63. And he will still be gone on the 15th

No photo op to deliver you the Catholic vote, sorry. (as if Catholics are that easily swayed anyways)


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Response to Tarc (Reply #63)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:56 PM

64. And you're still woefully uninformed.

Bookmarking for when Bernie meets with the Pope.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #56)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:02 PM

67. How long do you think travel time takes?

I've flown from Athens to Rome and it was under 5 hrs and the flight time was less than half that.

No one is saying he will be at the conference. But he will be in the Vatican on the 15th when Bernie lands. It also looks like his schedule was changed from the dates you listed for a reason.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:43 PM

7. This Vatican thing really has your panties in a twist, doesn't it?

How many times have you posted about it in the last couple of days? It must really stick in your craw. Maybe you'd feel a little less butthurt about it if he brought back a souvenir:

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:51 PM

22. Panties?...That's sexist heh-heh

 

(Just in case)

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:43 PM

8. Why would he do that?

He was invited and should attend. Hillary supposed are really starting to reach the bottom of the barrel regarding this non-issue.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:43 PM

9. ...

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:43 PM

10. So he actually gets to speak?

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:43 PM

11. Well, I suppose he could do that.

It's more dramatic, though, to fly over there to do it and makes it seem much more important. I still don't see how it makes sense, though, with the election in NY looming. But, it's Bernie's decision, not mine.

It's a good thing, though, that speeches aren't required to be in Latin any longer, probably.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:47 PM

15. San Francisco to peddle influence, or the Vatican to speak re: economic issues...yeah tough call!

For some.

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Response to jmg257 (Reply #15)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:52 PM

24. The Vatican doesn't pay $2700 for attendance though. nt

 

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #24)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:56 PM

31. Or $353,000 like Hillary and the Clooneys are charging.

Influence is expensive.

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Response to jmg257 (Reply #31)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:58 PM

34. Wonder what they'll be serving for a 350K dinner

 

besides a load of bullshit.

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #34)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:01 PM

36. LOL! Better be some damn tasty lobsters for that much coin! With Rice-a-roni, the SF treat! nt

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Response to jmg257 (Reply #15)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:03 PM

38. Fundraising for Democratic races is hardly peddling influence

I take it you are ne to the party...

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Response to Lucinda (Reply #38)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:04 PM

39. Nope - also not new to money in politics. No worries #ImWith$$$.

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Response to jmg257 (Reply #39)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:08 PM

43. I'll take a candidate that works hard to elect others in an effort to move the country forward

over one that does nothing for anyone but his colleagues any day of the week.

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Response to Lucinda (Reply #43)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:11 PM

46. I understand your position. At his point, I am more about seeing the status quo change.

AT least taking a shot.

Cheers!

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Response to jmg257 (Reply #15)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:06 PM

40. As I said, it's Bernie's decision, not mine.

He's still going to have to do a red-eye flight to make it in time after the NY debate. It's going to be tight, really, time-wise.

It's an honor, of course, to be asked to respond to a paper at this conference. No question about that. If I were running for President, though, I'd have taken a pass on it, this close to a primary of the importance of NY. It wouldn't have been a priority for me, given the travel issues and the debate.

Rome is 6 hours ahead of NYC. Flight time is 8 hours minimum, plus time to get from the airport to the location of the conference. He's truly going to have to leave the debate and get on a plane as soon as possible to make it there on time. He'll probably need a helicopter to the airport in NYC and maybe one in Rome as well. Further, I don't think there are any scheduled flights available at the time required. That presents more issues.

He can make it, but I'm not sure a 10-minute response to a paper presented there warrants the visit. I looked at the schedule. Logistically, it's a tight situation. Good luck to him.

I don't care whether he goes or not, frankly. It doesn't affect me in any way. I'm just an observer at this point, waiting to see who I'll be voting for in November. Either Democratic candidate will get my vote.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #40)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:09 PM

45. At least its not before the debate...remember Nixon vs JFK? Bernie is not a young man!

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:43 PM

12. Seriously, why do you care? mt

 

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #12)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:44 PM

13. I keep thinking I'll put them on ignore . . . but then I think I'll miss all this fun!

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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:47 PM

16. LOL, same here.

My finger hovers over the Ignore button, but then I think, no, this one's way too much fun. Performance art, almost.

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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:51 PM

21. I've never put anyone on ignore on this site.

 

Not sure what the benefit of doing that is.

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #21)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:17 PM

47. Some of the endless threads and posts are not even worth reading for amusement. Doesn't clutter up

my mind - or make my blood pressure go up

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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:23 PM

49. This one stays.

He cracks me up to the point where I almost think his posts are satire, kind of like Third Way Manny, although not as clever.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:46 PM

14. A speech?!? So this "obscure conference" will now get national coverage as Bernie speaks about

economic injustice, while Clinton photo oped at $$$ dinners w/hollywood glams.


Priceless.

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Response to jmg257 (Reply #14)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:48 PM

17. conference closed to the public

doubt they will allow media into the room.

it's a serious academic conference, with only 30 invited participants.

sure they won't let Bernie turn it into a media circus.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:50 PM

19. Sadners will only offer to Skype if it's AIPAC on the line.

 

Remember when he "boycotted the AIPAC meeting" when they wouldn't let him give the speech he'd prepared by video?

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:50 PM

20. He did think of it.

 

But when he realized how upset you'd be if he flew to Italy, he decided to go.

I have no idea why the Sanders campaign is out to piss you off, but it is what it is.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:51 PM

23. Did this keep you up all weekend? You've been ranting about this for 3 days.



Hope you got some rest, some fresh air and had a few laughs over the weekend and didn't spend the entire weekend fuming about Bernie.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:52 PM

25. Bernie's speaking! Bernie's speaking!

That's all I took away from this post. Thanks so much for letting me know, I hadn't heard yet!

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:54 PM

27. How to deal with envy

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:54 PM

28. Are you serious?

 


I've had 15 minute speaking slots at conferences further away than Italy. It's not just about the speaking slot, but the notion of someone being engaged in work other than being elected is, I'm sure, difficult for some to understand.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:56 PM

30. Oh, for god's sake. Let it go.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:58 PM

32. of course not - he will be meeting with the Pope as well as speaking

saw it on the View

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:06 PM

41. That is a really creative one. I AM impressd.

There is also Viber, Wechat, Whatsapp, Kakao Talk,,, FB Messenger..

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:08 PM

44. Don't give them any ideas...being absent from the campaign trail for 2 days is great for us! nt

 

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:40 PM

52. Maybe just a tweet:

 



It was save everyone involved a lot of time.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:46 PM

55. Good time for Bernie and Jane to sort through their income tax papers.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:48 PM

58. You know who ISN'T flying to Europe for a 10 min speech?

This is killing you guys! You just can't let it go.

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Response to frylock (Reply #58)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:51 PM

59. Hmmm let me think

....who could that be?

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:53 PM

61. which is how H should give her rallies,

less embarrassment,no one can see when 50 people show up.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:02 PM

66. To show the world not all Pres candidates are corrupt, or hawks, or liars

 

or radically insane. They dont know him. If he becomes Pres, the world needs to know him. He isnt there for 10 min and leave,he is dining, mixing, forming friendships and making contacts with like minded leaders. Teleconferencing is very impersonal. Bernie in person seduces frustrated people, gives hope and a glimpse into sincerity.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:05 PM

68. Interacting with attendees at conferences is one way to learn about things from others' perspectives

It's not just about speaking.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:15 PM

71. Embarrassingly desperate and petty. /nt

 

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:20 PM

75. I am surprised that I can see

this OP without the aid of a microscope.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:23 PM

76. Why do you care?

It would seem to help your candidate if he's not in New York campaigning. Except, of course, for the possibility of live coverage from Rome. Fingers crossed.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:24 PM

77. And you're flying right to my ignore list once and for all!

Enjoy your flight!

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:27 PM

79. Like teleconferencing someones Gold Sacks fund-raiser?

 

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:36 PM

82. Best post ever!

 

Come to think of it why does he even go to his rallies, when not just teleconference in? Why do teachers even go to teach in classes any more? Why do people go anywhere, F this system, we should all just call it quits, hop in to a pod and Matrix it. I am tired of the Luddites relying on feet to walk, proximity or physical presence! Down with walking, face to face, down with the public! OP #FeelTheMatrix

Martin Luther would still be alive to this day if he telecommuted, same with JFK! #TakeTheRedPill



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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:49 PM

84. While he appreciates your concern, the answer is still "no". He will be just fine. nt

 

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:49 PM

85. You MUST be a parody poster

Right?

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:09 PM

86. You again? Do something

 

worthwhile today.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:09 PM

87. The pettiness from the Clinton supporters is amazing.

I'm sure that I'll get a response saying that the Sanders supporters are more petty.

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Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:11 PM

89. Maybe Hillary could participate using her own private server.

 

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