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Bernie is flying to Europe for a 10 min speech.Has he thought about teleconferencing (or even Skype) (Original Post) hill2016 Apr 2016 OP
Man, you guys are jealous. RiverLover Apr 2016 #1
Haha dont you know? GummyBearz Apr 2016 #18
From a pure campaign standpoint it is the wrong thing to do at this time, but when Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #29
Well, God does seem to prefer Bernie. RiverLover Apr 2016 #33
It's like a sign. Octafish Apr 2016 #35
+1000 noiretextatique Apr 2016 #73
Knowing what I know about god and Bernie, you might be right. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #37
God prefers Bernie because a bird landed on his podium? Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #42
Is this today's talking point? noiretextatique Apr 2016 #72
Ridiculous attack of me, a Bernie voter. It is an obvservation that I think most Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #78
Whatever noiretextatique Apr 2016 #81
I post like someone who supports whoever the candidate is, and someone who Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #83
...but do you know the damage the right can do from within the Democratic Party while RiverLover Apr 2016 #90
It's not like Clinton has never addressed an international audience. Sanders ... this is Yuge. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #53
Pretty much only when they paid... Human101948 Apr 2016 #54
Yeah, Sanders likes to stay home. Even beyond the paid engagements, HRC is well traveled and... Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #57
She will be even better known and loved when she gets control of the military... Human101948 Apr 2016 #62
You think I just arrived at DU and didn't see all that shit? Try to stay on topic. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #65
Yes, Ms. Schoolmarm.... Human101948 Apr 2016 #69
She talks to God daily - how 840high Apr 2016 #88
Yeah-- they're blowing me away with this stuff. Marr Apr 2016 #70
Really...so petty and ridiculous eom noiretextatique Apr 2016 #74
Deep thinking isn't exactly amongst their collective strong suits LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #80
You seem very concerned 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #2
........ polly7 Apr 2016 #3
Fail and flail Armstead Apr 2016 #4
It still stings don't it. Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #5
Worried about a pic of Bernie and the Pope are you? I would be too. n/t Avalux Apr 2016 #6
I wouild be worried too, as it would indicate that there is an impostor afoot Tarc Apr 2016 #26
Your facts are out of date NWCorona Apr 2016 #48
Really? Do tell. Tarc Apr 2016 #50
From your link NWCorona Apr 2016 #51
Unless the Vatican has teleporters, it takes some time to travel, bro Tarc Apr 2016 #56
The flight time from Rome, Italy to Athens, Greece is: frylock Apr 2016 #60
And he will still be gone on the 15th Tarc Apr 2016 #63
And you're still woefully uninformed. frylock Apr 2016 #64
How long do you think travel time takes? NWCorona Apr 2016 #67
This Vatican thing really has your panties in a twist, doesn't it? The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #7
Panties?...That's sexist heh-heh Armstead Apr 2016 #22
Why would he do that? Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #8
... Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #9
So he actually gets to speak? kennetha Apr 2016 #10
Well, I suppose he could do that. MineralMan Apr 2016 #11
San Francisco to peddle influence, or the Vatican to speak re: economic issues...yeah tough call! jmg257 Apr 2016 #15
The Vatican doesn't pay $2700 for attendance though. nt NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #24
Or $353,000 like Hillary and the Clooneys are charging. jmg257 Apr 2016 #31
Wonder what they'll be serving for a 350K dinner NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #34
LOL! Better be some damn tasty lobsters for that much coin! With Rice-a-roni, the SF treat! nt jmg257 Apr 2016 #36
Fundraising for Democratic races is hardly peddling influence Lucinda Apr 2016 #38
Nope - also not new to money in politics. No worries #ImWith$$$. jmg257 Apr 2016 #39
I'll take a candidate that works hard to elect others in an effort to move the country forward Lucinda Apr 2016 #43
I understand your position. At his point, I am more about seeing the status quo change. jmg257 Apr 2016 #46
As I said, it's Bernie's decision, not mine. MineralMan Apr 2016 #40
At least its not before the debate...remember Nixon vs JFK? Bernie is not a young man! jmg257 Apr 2016 #45
Seriously, why do you care? mt NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #12
I keep thinking I'll put them on ignore . . . but then I think I'll miss all this fun! Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #13
LOL, same here. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #16
I've never put anyone on ignore on this site. NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #21
Some of the endless threads and posts are not even worth reading for amusement. Doesn't clutter up Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #47
This one stays. Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #49
A speech?!? So this "obscure conference" will now get national coverage as Bernie speaks about jmg257 Apr 2016 #14
conference closed to the public kennetha Apr 2016 #17
Sadners will only offer to Skype if it's AIPAC on the line. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #19
He did think of it. Wilms Apr 2016 #20
Did this keep you up all weekend? You've been ranting about this for 3 days. jillan Apr 2016 #23
Bernie's speaking! Bernie's speaking! DebDoo Apr 2016 #25
How to deal with envy rachacha Apr 2016 #27
Are you serious? jberryhill Apr 2016 #28
Oh, for god's sake. Let it go. bjo59 Apr 2016 #30
of course not - he will be meeting with the Pope as well as speaking DrDan Apr 2016 #32
That is a really creative one. I AM impressd. pangaia Apr 2016 #41
Don't give them any ideas...being absent from the campaign trail for 2 days is great for us! nt anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #44
Maybe just a tweet: Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #52
Good time for Bernie and Jane to sort through their income tax papers. oasis Apr 2016 #55
You know who ISN'T flying to Europe for a 10 min speech? frylock Apr 2016 #58
Hmmm let me think Bjornsdotter Apr 2016 #59
which is how H should give her rallies, wendylaroux Apr 2016 #61
To show the world not all Pres candidates are corrupt, or hawks, or liars larkrake Apr 2016 #66
Interacting with attendees at conferences is one way to learn about things from others' perspectives cyberswede Apr 2016 #68
Embarrassingly desperate and petty. /nt Marr Apr 2016 #71
I am surprised that I can see Puglover Apr 2016 #75
Why do you care? Vinca Apr 2016 #76
And you're flying right to my ignore list once and for all! Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #77
Like teleconferencing someones Gold Sacks fund-raiser? Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #79
Best post ever! northernsouthern Apr 2016 #82
While he appreciates your concern, the answer is still "no". He will be just fine. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #84
You MUST be a parody poster TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #85
You again? Do something 840high Apr 2016 #86
The pettiness from the Clinton supporters is amazing. ladjf Apr 2016 #87
Maybe Hillary could participate using her own private server. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #89
 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
18. Haha dont you know?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:48 PM
Apr 2016

If he only speaks for 10 minutes they think he will only make ~$11K instead of the $225K for an hour!!

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
29. From a pure campaign standpoint it is the wrong thing to do at this time, but when
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:55 PM
Apr 2016

I said that to my friend who also supports Bernie he said:

"The god endorsement, is pretty important"



He has god on his side now!

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
72. Is this today's talking point?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:17 PM
Apr 2016

A political miscalculation? It will not hurt him in any way, and most definitely help him. That is the problem, for some.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
78. Ridiculous attack of me, a Bernie voter. It is an obvservation that I think most
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:26 PM
Apr 2016

attuned political folks agree with.

What is it with certain folks around here who cant talk to you without attacking you?

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
81. Whatever
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:35 PM
Apr 2016

You sure post like a Hillary supporter. As I said: it will be a plus for him. That's why there is so such furious spinning.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
83. I post like someone who supports whoever the candidate is, and someone who
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:42 PM
Apr 2016

doesn't give two shits about the party, as well.

I post like someone who has been around long enough to know how much damage the right is capable of.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
90. ...but do you know the damage the right can do from within the Democratic Party while
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:11 PM
Apr 2016

pretending to be Democrats?

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
57. Yeah, Sanders likes to stay home. Even beyond the paid engagements, HRC is well traveled and...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:47 PM
Apr 2016

... internationally known.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
62. She will be even better known and loved when she gets control of the military...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:53 PM
Apr 2016

"We came, we saw, he died," she joked when told of news reports of Qaddafi's death by an aide in between formal interviews.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/clinton-on-qaddafi-we-came-we-saw-he-died/

It’s worth remembering that while Clinton infamously voted to invade Iraq, of course, she was also notably trigger-happy during her time at the State Department. These days, you’re more likely to hear about Benghazi when the topic of Clinton and Libya comes up, but far more important was the key role she played in pushing for intervention there in the first place.

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/10/what_hillary_clinton_wants_you_to_forget_her_disastrous_record_as_a_war_hawk/

And so it goes.

Sky Masterson

(5,240 posts)
5. It still stings don't it.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:42 PM
Apr 2016

That the Vatican sees Bernie in a better light than the Iraq War promoter that is running against him.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
26. I wouild be worried too, as it would indicate that there is an impostor afoot
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:53 PM
Apr 2016
Pope Francis and Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, spiritual leader of the world's Orthodox Christians, will visit the Greek island of Lesbos next week...

The Greek government issued a note saying the pope and patriarch would be visiting Lesbos on April 14-15 along with Athens Archbishop Ieronymos, and that Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras would join them.


Sanders visit to Vatican sows confusion

The conference, organized by the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, will be held on April 15 — just days before the crucial New York primary, in which Sanders is hoping to upset his rival Hillary Clinton in her home state.


Whoopsie!

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
51. From your link
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:40 PM
Apr 2016

"Greek church authorities recently approved plans for Pope Francis to visit the Greek island of Lesbos on Saturday, April 16 "

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
56. Unless the Vatican has teleporters, it takes some time to travel, bro
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:47 PM
Apr 2016

All indications thus far have been that the Pope will be elsewhere, and not attending this conference.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
63. And he will still be gone on the 15th
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:54 PM
Apr 2016

No photo op to deliver you the Catholic vote, sorry. (as if Catholics are that easily swayed anyways)


NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
67. How long do you think travel time takes?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:02 PM
Apr 2016

I've flown from Athens to Rome and it was under 5 hrs and the flight time was less than half that.

No one is saying he will be at the conference. But he will be in the Vatican on the 15th when Bernie lands. It also looks like his schedule was changed from the dates you listed for a reason.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,656 posts)
7. This Vatican thing really has your panties in a twist, doesn't it?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:43 PM
Apr 2016

How many times have you posted about it in the last couple of days? It must really stick in your craw. Maybe you'd feel a little less butthurt about it if he brought back a souvenir:

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
8. Why would he do that?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:43 PM
Apr 2016

He was invited and should attend. Hillary supposed are really starting to reach the bottom of the barrel regarding this non-issue.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
11. Well, I suppose he could do that.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:43 PM
Apr 2016

It's more dramatic, though, to fly over there to do it and makes it seem much more important. I still don't see how it makes sense, though, with the election in NY looming. But, it's Bernie's decision, not mine.

It's a good thing, though, that speeches aren't required to be in Latin any longer, probably.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
15. San Francisco to peddle influence, or the Vatican to speak re: economic issues...yeah tough call!
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:47 PM
Apr 2016

For some.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
38. Fundraising for Democratic races is hardly peddling influence
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:03 PM
Apr 2016

I take it you are ne to the party...

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
43. I'll take a candidate that works hard to elect others in an effort to move the country forward
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:08 PM
Apr 2016

over one that does nothing for anyone but his colleagues any day of the week.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
46. I understand your position. At his point, I am more about seeing the status quo change.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:11 PM
Apr 2016

AT least taking a shot.

Cheers!

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
40. As I said, it's Bernie's decision, not mine.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:06 PM
Apr 2016

He's still going to have to do a red-eye flight to make it in time after the NY debate. It's going to be tight, really, time-wise.

It's an honor, of course, to be asked to respond to a paper at this conference. No question about that. If I were running for President, though, I'd have taken a pass on it, this close to a primary of the importance of NY. It wouldn't have been a priority for me, given the travel issues and the debate.

Rome is 6 hours ahead of NYC. Flight time is 8 hours minimum, plus time to get from the airport to the location of the conference. He's truly going to have to leave the debate and get on a plane as soon as possible to make it there on time. He'll probably need a helicopter to the airport in NYC and maybe one in Rome as well. Further, I don't think there are any scheduled flights available at the time required. That presents more issues.

He can make it, but I'm not sure a 10-minute response to a paper presented there warrants the visit. I looked at the schedule. Logistically, it's a tight situation. Good luck to him.

I don't care whether he goes or not, frankly. It doesn't affect me in any way. I'm just an observer at this point, waiting to see who I'll be voting for in November. Either Democratic candidate will get my vote.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,656 posts)
16. LOL, same here.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:47 PM
Apr 2016

My finger hovers over the Ignore button, but then I think, no, this one's way too much fun. Performance art, almost.

Nanjeanne

(4,918 posts)
47. Some of the endless threads and posts are not even worth reading for amusement. Doesn't clutter up
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:17 PM
Apr 2016

my mind - or make my blood pressure go up

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
49. This one stays.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:23 PM
Apr 2016

He cracks me up to the point where I almost think his posts are satire, kind of like Third Way Manny, although not as clever.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
14. A speech?!? So this "obscure conference" will now get national coverage as Bernie speaks about
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:46 PM
Apr 2016

economic injustice, while Clinton photo oped at $$$ dinners w/hollywood glams.


Priceless.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
17. conference closed to the public
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:48 PM
Apr 2016

doubt they will allow media into the room.

it's a serious academic conference, with only 30 invited participants.

sure they won't let Bernie turn it into a media circus.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
19. Sadners will only offer to Skype if it's AIPAC on the line.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:50 PM
Apr 2016

Remember when he "boycotted the AIPAC meeting" when they wouldn't let him give the speech he'd prepared by video?

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
20. He did think of it.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:50 PM
Apr 2016

But when he realized how upset you'd be if he flew to Italy, he decided to go.

I have no idea why the Sanders campaign is out to piss you off, but it is what it is.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
23. Did this keep you up all weekend? You've been ranting about this for 3 days.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:51 PM
Apr 2016


Hope you got some rest, some fresh air and had a few laughs over the weekend and didn't spend the entire weekend fuming about Bernie.

DebDoo

(319 posts)
25. Bernie's speaking! Bernie's speaking!
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:52 PM
Apr 2016

That's all I took away from this post. Thanks so much for letting me know, I hadn't heard yet!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
28. Are you serious?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:54 PM
Apr 2016

I've had 15 minute speaking slots at conferences further away than Italy. It's not just about the speaking slot, but the notion of someone being engaged in work other than being elected is, I'm sure, difficult for some to understand.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
41. That is a really creative one. I AM impressd.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:06 PM
Apr 2016

There is also Viber, Wechat, Whatsapp, Kakao Talk,,, FB Messenger..

frylock

(34,825 posts)
58. You know who ISN'T flying to Europe for a 10 min speech?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:48 PM
Apr 2016

This is killing you guys! You just can't let it go.

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
66. To show the world not all Pres candidates are corrupt, or hawks, or liars
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:02 PM
Apr 2016

or radically insane. They dont know him. If he becomes Pres, the world needs to know him. He isnt there for 10 min and leave,he is dining, mixing, forming friendships and making contacts with like minded leaders. Teleconferencing is very impersonal. Bernie in person seduces frustrated people, gives hope and a glimpse into sincerity.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
68. Interacting with attendees at conferences is one way to learn about things from others' perspectives
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
Apr 2016

It's not just about speaking.

Vinca

(50,248 posts)
76. Why do you care?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:23 PM
Apr 2016

It would seem to help your candidate if he's not in New York campaigning. Except, of course, for the possibility of live coverage from Rome. Fingers crossed.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
82. Best post ever!
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:36 PM
Apr 2016

Come to think of it why does he even go to his rallies, when not just teleconference in? Why do teachers even go to teach in classes any more? Why do people go anywhere, F this system, we should all just call it quits, hop in to a pod and Matrix it. I am tired of the Luddites relying on feet to walk, proximity or physical presence! Down with walking, face to face, down with the public! OP #FeelTheMatrix

Martin Luther would still be alive to this day if he telecommuted, same with JFK! #TakeTheRedPill



ladjf

(17,320 posts)
87. The pettiness from the Clinton supporters is amazing.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:09 PM
Apr 2016

I'm sure that I'll get a response saying that the Sanders supporters are more petty.

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