Bernie "big" Bronx rally

[TMontoya]

Word is over half of those in attendance at his rally a week ago were ineligible to vote in the Democratic primary. I guess a lot of college kids still think its "trendy" to not identify with a party. Thats fine, it keeps interlopers out of OUR candidate selection process. I believe its likely Bernie loses NY by 15 or more points. Possible even a 20 point margin.

[Avalux]

1. Word is that Hillary Inc. is terrified. Explains this sort of nonsensical post. n/t

[JackRiddler]

73. DIE, HUMANS, DIE!!!

What good are humans? Are they registered as Democrats in New York? Are they ambulatory enough to get to the polls on April 19th? If not, THEY DON'T COUNT!!!

(Cue the mad nervous laughter...)

[Vinca]

2. Why don't occupy yourself by quizzing Hillary rally attendees?

I'm sure the results will be similar . . . on a much smaller scale, of course.

[nichomachus]

5. Mrs. Clinton's supporter are much easier to quiz

They can't move very fast.

[bettyellen]

8. Wow. Ugly agist shit.

[nichomachus]

15. Who said anything about age?

That's your interpretation. So, you must be the one who's ageist.

[bettyellen]

24. I think we've seen enough similar here to know exactly what you meant. If I am in error- please do

[nichomachus]

30. Your mind-reading powers are astounding

You should work up a night club act -- or join a circus.

[bettyellen]

36. You've got nothing but cheap insults then. Save that ageist shit for your parents.

They'll be real proud, I am sure.

[SalviaBlue]

26. Ugly agist shit goes both ways.

"I guess a lot of college kids still think its "trendy" to not identify with a party."

I have seen this agism towards millennials again and again from Hillary supporters on DU. Its not very smart, but I agree, it is ugly.

I am 60, BTW.

[bettyellen]

28. So it's all good to you- you enjoy rolling in the mud?

[SalviaBlue]

39. No, my dear. I would never make an agist statement

against the young or the old.

Where did you call out the OP for his "ugly agist shit?" That is where it should have been nipped in the bud.

It appears that its okay with you for the OP to start a post slinging mud but you cannot abide someone responding in kind.

[bettyellen]

44. I read so many complaints here about Indies not getting to vote in the primary- so was that true

but now it isn't?

At any rate- ragging on people because of their behavior- statistically, they are still not voting- fair game. Ragging on people because of physical limitations-"slow"- pretty damned ugly.
Unfortunately, it has always been hard to get the young to participate in elections- it has been the subject of endless discussion. That you take it as a slight doesn't make it cruel.

[SalviaBlue]

56. I didn't call it cruel. I called it stupid.

[LonePirate]

9. Movement speed doesn't matter. The votes do.

[Vinca]

10. LOL . . . now that's funny.

[RandySF]

19. Perhaps they can't move fast because

They worked their entire lives instead of sitting in their parents' basement waiting for free stuff.

[Desert805]

23. yeah, all that stinky hippie money is better spent on war and death, for sure!

War and Death 2016!

[merrily]

33. Inasmuch as "free stuff" is a blatant lie, I am not surprised to see it on DU daily.

[Bohemianwriter]

42. Republican talking points..

Congrats for showing excellently how the Hillary camp has more in common with GOP scam artists and their suckers.

[SheenaR]

43. I gotta say

Of all the bullshit memes of this campaign this is the one that drives me the craziest.

Free stuff? So let me guess. The good old American way is to work for years to pay off your student debt. The good old American way is to get off your ass and find a company with a good health care plan. Otherwise you are screwed.

If this is your life, you got fucked by the American government. You are the sucker. You worked for a life that should have been easier. Don't bitch and moan because people are taking notice that all this stuff we work for years for is a birth "RIGHT" in almost every developed nation.

"Free stuff" is an uneducated, Republican world view. It's absolute bullcrap that a Progressive can look someone in the eye and say, "work for it kid. You wouldn't want to be one of those Canadian kids who has insurance and can get an affordable college education would you?"

All of us have been used by the American Government. We can bitch about it and pretend these "kids" don't know what the good old days were like. Or we can catch up with the rest of the civilized world.

I'm sorry Randy. The free stuff shit is weak.

[Kittycat]

59. America, Hilary supporter's future Mexico.

Fuck this republican "free stuff" meme. Brunch of uneducated detractors.

[pkdu]

80. Brunch....love it. Lol. Nt

[Kittycat]

81. ;)

[wendylaroux]

58. lol! basement,free stuff key words important

[lumberjack_jeff]

76. This campaign is like a big Milgram experiment.

Hillary demands that "progressives" rail against socialism and free stuff, so what's a "progressive" gonna do? Last week, we thought that government was a force for good, but that's not the current party line.

So... I guess I gotta push that button! What choice do I have? The lady in the lab coat demands it!

[demmiblue]

3. Word has it that there was an attack on the moon by a rogue band of Daleks. n/t

[nichomachus]

4. Right, but they'll be voting in November

And probably not for people who trash them like Mrs. Clinton and her supporters do. Good luck with that.

[Warren DeMontague]

6. And they listen to that awful music.... so LOUD!

TURN THAT RACKET DOWN!

[wendylaroux]

61. Those god damn kids with their dope and their blue jeans with the bells!!!!!!!

[LonePirate]

7. If Hillary wins NY by 20 points, the primary race is effectively over.

She wil rack up double digit wins the following week as well and there will not be enough states remaining for Bernie to catch up, even with a 30 point win in CA.

[Nanjeanne]

11. So he had over 15,000 people there - so "word" is that 7,500 are ineligible to vote. Okay

I say Bird is the Word

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[Cheese Sandwich]

12. Hillary supporters oppose same day registration because they want to suppress the vote

[bettyellen]

38. That's like saying SBS supporters want caucuses only. Which is also bullshit.

[hrmjustin]

54. I support same day registration. Big fail on your part.

[Cheese Sandwich]

71. You may notice a lot of Clintonites complaining about "outsiders" voting in "their" elections

People registering at the last minute just to vote in the primary. That's what an open primary is. It means you can register at the last minute.

[hrmjustin]

72. People registering to vote and changing their party registration is two seperate things.

Try again.

[Cheese Sandwich]

77. Do you think people should be allowed to register as Democrats on election day?

[hrmjustin]

79. Not in NY. You are warned you can't vote in a primary when you register as an indy here.

I do think the 6 month rule here is wrong and should be moved to a month.

[katsy]

13. "Keeps interlopers out of OUR"

"OUR"

Do you understand how ugly that sounds?

You think maybe the Democratic Party needs less voters identifying with it? Is that a "purity" "blood oath to party" kinda thing ya got going?

I accept that HRC will most likely win NY.

I can't accept that anyone would call SBS supporters "interlopers".

Not nice.

[nichomachus]

18. It's all about Hillary

If she manages to get the nomination, she and her supporters are going to be shocked when those interlopers tell them to fuck off.

[katsy]

52. Exactly!

I've been here for a few primaries buts I never felt as insulted as I do this primary season.

Never entertained not voting for the Democratic Party candidate then read all the awful stuff posted here about progressives.

I guess we're being told to fuck off on no uncertain terms. Nice.

[TMontoya]

21. Well

If they want to have a voice within the party all they need to do is sign up as a Democrat.

[katsy]

60. And if they don't want to identify?

Fair game for insults? Do you think that getting all possessive about "YOUR" Democratic Party is good form?

It's not. It's not okay to label millennials or any SBS supporters as "other". We aren't republicans. Someone once posted that progressives are the Party's conscious. I felt that resonate with me.

You don't have to agree. Just go easy on alienating people who have the right to disagree with you.

[wendylaroux]

63. if you aint with us,your against us.

[Amaril]

25. I know, right?

These "purity" posts kill me...........like where do they think new Democrats come from -- pods?

I was once told -- because I started out my political life registered as Republican (my parents -- and entire extended family -- were Republicans, and what did I know -- I was 18, from a town so small I dare you to find it on a map, and knew NOTHING of the world except what they exposed me to..........and then I went to college) -- that I'm not a "real" Democrat (even though I (have been registered as one for lo these last 30+ years).

[Sky Masterson]

14. I know! Stupid people who developed an interest in politics

who may not even be registered to vote yet.
And may have found a reason to register to vote for maybe the first time ever.
We should demean them as you just did.

[NorthCarolina]

22. Seems that American style Democracy sure has a lot of rules intended to suppress voting.

eom

[djean111]

16. Well, something for you to look forward to!

And, bye!

[Live and Learn]

17. Voter suppression isn't something to celebrate. nt

[merrily]

29. Unless it's after 3 in the afternoon.

[farleftlib]

20. They better not have been on my lawn!

Damn kids these days, why weren't they smoking grass on their own property?

[merrily]

27. "Word is?" LOL. That's a source now?

[farleftlib]

32. Well

"some say" and "everybody knows" have been overused quite a bit lately.

[TheSarcastinator]

35. "some people say" is a classic Faux Noise trick

"

"

[dchill]

78. "Word is" that "some people say."

[beedle]

87. "People are reporting"

Which people?

"Me."

[jmousso75]

31. 0.Bernie

All the talk about Bernie supporters...... Time for me to leave the Democratic Underground. I feel like I'm on a republican site. Sad. Farewell.

[TMontoya]

34. Key word

"Democratic" Undergound. Sanders isn't a Democrat.

[Bohemianwriter]

48. Hillary's record proves she IS a republican...

Having hijacked the party in the 90's.

It's about time to take the party back from corporate politicians and racists who goes identity politics when it's politicallly expedient and then go back to the same old racist talking points after reigning in some undeserved votes after the hatchet job in the south and his civil rights record.



Hillary only wants to talk to white people. And only if they are rich with a check.

So if you are not rich and not white and have issues with her and her husband's political history, you might get a finger up your nose, a wilde eyed look, and almost yelling when lying at the same time.

Hillary Clinton have perfected Karl Rove methods. Her voters seem to buy into her mudslinging every single time.

[choie]

49. He is the Democrat

In this election

[arcane1]

37. Whose "word"? Yours?

How many ineligible people attend Hillary's rallies?

Oh, I forgot, her rallies don't exist

[Bohemianwriter]

40. So much for reaching out to the indys.

Seems that you Hillary supporters are hellbent on keeping the democratic party inside a small bubble of elitists,, suckers and secret racists who loves wars, corruption and any process to stop real democracy from working.

The Democratic party has been hijacked by 3rd way "democrats" who ran away from the label LIBERAL, while Bernie has never coward awy from the term LIBERAL after Bill Clinton unleashed RW hate radio...

Hillary does NOT represent the core of the democratic party. She represent her corporate donors and war hawks. And sometimes, I wonder if her followers are just as much interlopers hellbent on destroying the democratic party for their corporste owners.

[bettyellen]

46. RW hate radio is Clinton's fault now? LOL.

[Bohemianwriter]

53. Did Bill Clinton sign away the media regulations or not?

Did Bill continue Reagan's policy of marginalizing progressive, liberl voices in the media, yes or no?

Hillary and Bill was using the same RW talking point in the 90's, throwing both their liberal voters and African Americans under the
bus.

People in her, claiming "party loyalty" which is more of a personal cultism worshipping secret speeches, praises wars, and loves torture and spying on ones own people and loves Wall Street have adopted the exact same RW talking points as republicans, while falsely accusing Bernie and his supporters of not being "real democrats", while the opposite is the truth.

Hillary is not a real democrat. She's a dixicrat, a Goldwater girl, and a flip flopper that would make anyone dizzy.

[bettyellen]

57. "praises war and loves torture" W.T.F. have you been smoking?

[Bohemianwriter]

64. If you vote for Hillary..

You are rewarding someone who belongs in the same war crimes trubunal as her fellow republican neocons.


OR to ask it in a different way:

Do you support Clinton's bombing of the Iraq in the 90s?`
`

Do you support Hillary's support for the "Patriot" Act in 2001?

Do you support Hillary's policies against Iraq,Syria and Libya?`

How about her close ties to the Facsists who ousted as legally elected government in Honduras?

If you do not support any of these, then you will not vote for her.

If you praise these actions and their consequences, you reward these actions by giving her your full vote of confidence and hope she will continue in the same track as she already has.

Plain and simple.

Cheap republican strawmen with no substance and absolutely void of intelligence is not befitting anyone who claims to be a reflective, informed and educated Hillary supporters with LIBERAL valies.

[bettyellen]

65. Some I do and some I don't- much like Bernie.

Not going to pretend we are living in simple times.

[Bohemianwriter]

67. If you support any of the above...

Then you have more in common with republicans and seek to reward Hillary for said actions, crimes and transgressions.

These are NOT liberal policies and should not be adopted by any democrat.

At least we know you are partially praising her criminal incompetence...

[bettyellen]

69. Crimes? You wish, perhaps. I'm living in the real world with imperfect choices.

Not carrying water for Carl Rove anytime soon either. But you go right ahead.

[Bohemianwriter]

75. Karl Rove all over..

Why don't you explain exactly what she did in that list that has been so great for the country and humanity since you are pushing to reward her for them?

Iraq?
The "Patriot" Act?
Her husband's war on African Americans and the continuation of Reagan's deeply racist and political war on drugs?
Their close ties to Wall Streeet and the Panama Papers?
Her support for the military coup in Honduras?
Killing Gadaffi, creating the refugee crisis neither she nor some European countries refuse to take care of?


Admit it!

Hillary is a republican!

And if you don't think she should be held accountable for this, I can only speculate that you don't want to hold Dick Cheney accountable either.

Wonder why she claims to be trustworthy or transparent when she hold secret highly paid speeches to people she was supposed to legislate.
Perhaps she thinks that Lloyd Blankfein is a better citizen than some black kid in Detroit whose only source of income has been drug dealing since the jobs went overseas and the defunding of education and welfare started to kick in when Bubba started to destroy what FDR, JFK and Jimmy Carter has built. Policywise, Bill Clinton was never a democrat. A dixiecrat perhaps. But never a civil rights democrat like Bernie has been his entire life. Bernie Sanders have something in common with jimmy Carter that neither of the Clinton's have: A few ounces of integrity!

Bill Clinton's policies in this regard, was the beginning of the funneling of black teenagers into the plantation farms, also called "private prisons"...
She certainly seems unwilling to release all the non violent "offenders" from said private prisons.
She certainly does not want to talk about reparations. Neither to the AA community, nor the Native American community.

Don't be shy!

Show us the true face of establishment "democrats" and tell us which one of these she should be rewarded for by having earned your vote!

[bettyellen]

82. I see you have blamed her for the sins of Carter, Reagan, both Bushes as well as her husband and BO.

She really must be all powerful.
Love Sanders plan for reparations too, BTW. Which is just as real as most of what you posted.

[Bohemianwriter]

84. Wonder what you have been smoking...

She supported all these policies, didn't she?

The problem with "superpredators" could have been solve by a stroke of a pen. By ending the war on drugs. Like Carter wanted. Neither Bill or Hillary was interested in that. They went after the weakest in society - minority kids!

Hillary was SoS during Obama. Did she or did she not push for a hawkish policy against Libya and Syria?
Who are the one who laughs about a death that has led to what we have in Europe today? Hillary or Obama?

You certainly seem to want to give Hillary a free pass and the Bushies not. Why are you on the same side of the issue regarding her support for illegal wars, spying on ones own citizens and going after whistleblowers who exposed these crimes?
Why not address her support for those?

So why haven't Hillary addressed Reperations since people claims she gives a damn about African Americans?

Why not talk about that rather than obsessing about Bernie?

[Bohemianwriter]

85. And I can't see that you are capabable of reading, since I gave some pointed questions and pointers.

You avoided all of them. Instead, you sound butthurt and come with a feeble attack that resembles a 5 year olds temper tantrum.

You must be proud of supporting a candidate who has been on the same side of the neocons and neoliberals consistently since 2001!

[Zen Democrat]

41. There were approximately 20,000 people there - at night. Who counted the registered voters?

[PeoViejo]

45. So, some voters are better than others?

How Progressive is that?

Hillary doesn't deserve to be President.


What's next? Only 'Real' Democrats have Civil Rights?

The New 'Jim Crow.'

[choie]

47. "Word?"

Where do you get your information from? I was there and I didn't see anybody taking a poll of the audience. More shit dressed as fact from Clinton supporters.

[TSIAS]

50. HRC: Get off our lawn

I don't think this is a great strategy to win over voters.

[CentralCoaster]

55. WJC: "All hopped up on drugs"

[jfern]

51. Word is that a meteor will hit Hillary in precisely 3 minutes

Making up shit is fun.

[whatchamacallit]

62. Was this word pulled from one's ass?

[MrMickeysMom]

66. Here's a tissue...

[DefenseLawyer]

68. We all benefit when the riff-raff is kept out of the process.

Especially since "interlopers" are forbidden by law to vote in the general election.

[jillan]

70. How sweet of you to ask everyone how old they are! That is so nice!

[lumberjack_jeff]

74. Chah! Hardly any of them were six-figure donors or superdelegates! n/t

[RedCappedBandit]

83. Millenial Bernie rally attendee here. Already voted. nt

[hellofromreddit]

86. That's a terrible thing to celebrate

People who are clearly excited and engaged are the best thing for democracy. But they're on the wrong team, so it's only democracy when they can't vote.

[Joe the Revelator]

89. You do understand it is absolutely impossible to win the GE without these trendy, college aged

independents, right?