RACIALLY CHARGED Joke by Hillary Clinton and Bill de Blasio Earns SCORN Instead of Laughs

[Segami]

In less than three minutes, a comedy routine between Hillary Clinton and Mayor Bill de Blasio of New York managed to cause a storm of controversy over a racially charged joke. It happened on Saturday night when Mrs. Clinton made a surprise visit to the Inner Circle dinner, an annual black-tie event that brings together the city’s press corps, lobbyists and lawmakers. She strode on stage with Mr. de Blasio and Leslie Odom Jr., the actor who plays Aaron Burr in the hit musical “Hamilton.”

“Thanks for the endorsement, Bill,” Mrs. Clinton said to Mr. de Blasio, a former aide to Mrs. Clinton when she was a senator from New York who nonetheless dallied in supporting her. “Took you long enough.”

“Sorry, Hillary,” Mr. de Blasio said. “I was running on C.P. time,” a reference to the stereotype “Colored People Time” that drew some cringes from the audience.

Mr. Odom, who is black and appeared to be in on the joke, interrupted: “That’s not — I don’t like jokes like that, Bill.” Mrs. Clinton jumped in. “Cautious politician time. I’ve been there,” she said.

The joke quickly made its way around social media as both Mrs. Clinton and Senator Bernie Sanders work to woo black voters ahead of the April 19 primary in New York. Both Mr. de Blasio and Mrs. Clinton have a reputation for running late, but the expression struck some as inappropriate.

New York magazine captured the exchange and asked “Does your wife, Chirlane, know about this joke?” referring to Mr. de Blasio’s wife, Chirlane McCray, who is African-American. Salon called the comedy skit “cringe worthy.” A headline in Gawker read “Hillary Clinton Tries to Prove She’s Not Racist with Awkward Joke About ‘Colored People Time.’”

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The joke came just days after Bill Clinton clashed with Black Lives Matter protesters who accused him of advancing policies during his administration that hurt African-American communities. A day later, the former president said he “almost” wanted to apologize to the activists.

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http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/11/hillary-clinton-bill-de-blasio/

[Segami]

1. Yup.....Ask Bill for help Hillary...

[JudyM]

19. Hey, it's sexist to criticize Hillary for going along with a racist "joke" so quit.

[Barack_America]

2. He was just on CNN claiming "CP time" means "cautious politician"

Is that even a thing??

[arcane1]

4. They literally invented it for this absurd skit n/t

[Segami]

7. Bullshit.....actor Leslie Odom Jr. didn't think it meant 'cautious politician'

as well as the crowd reaction. They're trying to walk this comment back......damage control.

You won't be seeing De Blasio at too many functions next to Hillary.....the queen is not impressed.

[grasswire]

55. who was on CNN? nt

[Barack_America]

58. de Blasio.

Actually worse than just apologizing, IMO.

[grasswire]

61. thanks

Must be doing damage control. He was on MSNBC with Tweety, too.

[uponit7771]

3. "when you talk about ghettos traditionally, what you talk about is African-American communities. "

[bvf]

77. That's correct.

[uponit7771]

83. Racist stereotypes are never correct at any time in any context. The context here was poor people

... and not the BS excuse of people grouped together based on religion

[bvf]

84. Maybe if you spent less time

accumulating hidden posts and more time using reference materials to look up the meanings of words that confuse you, we'd all be better off.

Beat this dead horse all you like while you thank your lucky stars for the reply. You clearly don't get many.

[UMTerp01]

5. Much ado about nothing

I'm Black and had no problem with this. I say it about myself sometimes and other people. I have white friends who have said it. This is a case of trying to jump on any and every Bill/Hillary "stumble" or statement to try and undermine the Clinton's support from Black voters. Many of the people trying to hype it up don't give a shit about Black people so long as they can get their vote to Bernie. Next....

[Punkingal]

17. Most of us know who doesn't give a shit about black people, and it isn't Bernie.

[UMTerp01]

23. I didn't say it was Bernie

But this intentional flood of posts about any stumble or bumble as it relates to Black voters from Camp Sanders is so transparent. Its mainly an attempt to undermine Black support for Clinton because I'm sure Camp Sanders can't quite figure out why they don't have the majority votes of the most reliable group of Democratic voters. I'm sick of it. You don't care about "CP time"...you only care about how it can paint Hillary in a bad light and hopefully translate into Black votes. Lets tell the whole truth here.

[notadmblnd]

30. Hillary paints herself in a bad light. Other just point it out.

"Let's tell the whole truth here." Isn't that a recent Bill Clinton quote?

[UMTerp01]

39. So our candidates are guilty because of their associates?

Well then I guess thats why I figured Bernie Sanders wouldn't be my guy when he embraced Mr. Anti-Obama himself Cornel West. There's a lot worse shit we can say about him calling Obama the first "Niggerized" President and Bernie Sanders not saying shit about it than a damn "CP"

[UMTerp01]

42. WTF? Do you not know the story?

It was De Blasio who made the CP joke...a Hillary surrogate. You talk about her painting herself in a bad light when she wasn't even the one who made the joke. Thus, if you are trying to attach Hillary to De Blasio then I guess I have to tie Cornel West to Bernie Sanders. Try to keep up.

[notadmblnd]

45. DeBlasio isn't a bigot. Geez he's married to an African American woman.

The joke was poorly rehearsed and an awkward attempt to pander to POC yet again.

[UMTerp01]

52. That we can agree on...

regarding it being a poorly rehearsed joke but this hyping it up to be some great racially insensitive horror is ignorant and disingenuous.

[grasswire]

59. doesn't really matter what you think unless you are a NY voter.

NYTimes says FAIL.

FAIL.

[notadmblnd]

63. It was just stupid and that's why I said Hillary paints herself in a bad light.

[Punkingal]

48. The whole truth for me is that i do care.

Vote for Hillary, fine. What i hate is the Clintons cynical exploitation of POC for their own gain. And don't tell me I just want the POC vote for Bernie. I just want everyone to be treated the same as I have all my life. I HATE racism.

[Segami]

62. +1

[appalachiablue]

78. Same here. And I despise racists, bigots, sexists and Nazis, not just Illinois ones.

[bjo59]

60. What this post tells me is that the New York Times and other major news outlets

felt this "comedy routine" was strange enough to comment upon. There were three people involved in that skit, not just Bill de Blasio. I'm sure the Hillary Clinton campaign would rather not have had this "cringe worthy" moment reported on by the New York Times, New York magazine, Salon, and Gawker.

[appalachiablue]

76. +2

[NWCorona]

21. The same could be said of this Vatican BS

I'm sure a lot of the people that use the pope to bash Bernie don't give a fuck about the Vatican or the church. Unfortunately it's politics.

I didn't think much about this gaffe either having read only read about it. After actually watching it.... It's pretty bad. I'm still willing to give the mayor the benefit of the doubt but still. And Hillary just stood there and followed the script. And what's up with the brother in cosplay? All kinds of questions.

Bill Clinton gets no pass from me tho

[UMTerp01]

26. Oh I agree. Its nonsense from both sides.

Both sides do it but I'm Blatino and therefore am more sensitive to this brand of bullshit and will call people out on it. I've seen post after post and tweet after tweet from Sanders people criticizing Black voters for supporting Clinton so excuse me if I call bullshit that all the sudden many are caring about "CP" gate as if they give a shit about Black voters.

[hedda_foil]

75. Mr Odom is wearing his costume from Hamilton.

[rhett o rick]

33. It was a deliberate use and not a "stumble". Here is what Black Lives Matter thinks about Hillary.

Here are some important points made by Black Lives Activist Ashley Williams:

“Here's the truth: the Clinton legacy has left our prisons bursting at the seams. Real lives have been destroyed as a result. It is an indisputable fact that millions of Black people were locked up for drug crimes and provided the bodies for the expansion of the prison industry.

The 1994 Crime Bill that she so vigorously defended not only expanded incarceration, but stripped funding for college education from prisoners. The Clinton legacy allowed for policies that prevented anyone convicted of a felony drug offense from receiving food stamps or income assistance. Clinton-led welfare reform fundamentally ripped apart the social safety net.”


“Make no mistake, Hillary Clinton's efforts to push these policies resulted in the continued destruction of Black communities and the swift growth of our mass incarceration crisis.”

[UMTerp01]

43. What in the fresh hell does that have to do with "CP" gate? n/t

[rhett o rick]

47. You can't figure it out? Well some in the AA community don't think very highly of the

Clintons. Bill's recent antics and Hillary's bad joke about CP.

[morningfog]

51. The Clintons have earned the right to say racist things.

[passiveporcupine]

74. While I agree with you to a point

I think we have become a bit too politically correct and take offense at every little thing, I think this was in poor taste. Maybe it was meant to be an ice breaker on the topic of blacks, but there is too much racial tension out there right now and this was very poor timing.

I'm not going to be making an issue of it, and I'm surprised it's hitting the internet in a big wave...I know Hillary supporters will not be affected by it, not even black Hillary supporters.

I think it should just be dropped. I know it wasn't meant to be offensive.

I do wish, however, that to be consistent, Hillary would quit trying to use any off remark or motion from Bernie as a sexist attack, when everyone knows it was never meant that way.

Maybe this is tit for tat.

[Tarc]

6. This coming from Camp Sanders, whose candidate thinks all black people live in ghettos?

[Segami]

10. Try telling that to Bubba who..

"..almost” wanted to apologize to the activists..."

Really?.....

[Tarc]

11. Any shift in the A-A vote so far?

[TM99]

20. Why yes, there was.

Perhaps you heard about her loss in Wisconsin?

[UMTerp01]

28. She still didn't lose Blacks in Wisconsin n/t

[TM99]

29. Look again at the spread

and see how far his numbers have risen.

And after Bill's fuck up with BLM and Clintons racist joke skit with De Blassio, I expect they will rise even more as hers continue to drop.

They did this in 2008. And they are doing it yet again.

[Tarc]

66. You mean the state where the A-A vote was only 10% of the whole, and Hillary won 70% of it?

Remind me again of what your point was?

[TM99]

67. Something obviously

well above your head.

[Tarc]

68. So, you made a mistake and don't see a way to save face

So you obfuscate.

Gotcha.

[TM99]

69. Whoosh, there it goes again!

Michigan uptick --

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/03/09/3758035/bernie-michigan-win/

On February 27th, Hillary Clinton led Bernie Sanders among African-American voters by 52 points.

By March 26th, she led Sanders among African-Americans by just nine points.

And today, Public Policy Polling, a widely respected polling organization, released a poll showing that Sanders leads Clinton among African-American voters in Wisconsin by 11 points.

It’s all part of a dramatic national trend that has seen Clinton’s support among nonwhite voters dwindle to well under a third of what it was just a month ago — not nearly enough support to carry her, as it did throughout the Deep South, to future electoral victories in the Midwest and Northeast.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/hillary-clintons-support-_b_9579544.html

You were saying?

Gotcha Tarc. Try again when you are ready for the big boy's league.

[Tarc]

71. Nice try, but we're talking about alleged fallout from the Di Blasio joke

Is there any?

You can get up from the Thanksgiving fold-out table when you have an answer.

[TM99]

72. It is coming.

Just like the rest of her free-fall with minority voters which already started last month.

Between Bill & BLM, De Blasio, superpredators coming to heel, mi abuela, etc., finally smart people are seeing through the pandering and the lies.

It is not too late, Tarc, join us on the right side of history.

[Tarc]

73. Still swinging and a'missin bro

[Number23]

81. And wrong too. Clinton won the black vote in Wisconsin. Sanders lost it there just as EVERYWHERE

About seven in 10 black voters in Wisconsin, mostly concentrated in Milwaukee, supported Mrs. Clinton. She also outpolled Mr. Sanders among voters over 45. Mr. Sanders won among men, younger voters, independents and white voters. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/06/us/politics/democratic-primary-results.html

He hasn't won the black vote in one single caucus or primary.

[JudyM]

24. On its way... Hopefully sooner rather than later. HillBillies are becoming too careless.

[rhett o rick]

44. It's not carlessness, it's hubris. They think they are entitled and everyone should just accept it.

[appalachiablue]

80. Who you calling HillBillies? Oh, Them.. nevermind, just joshin'.

[Lizzie Poppet]

37. God, you really suck at this.

You'd think with all that corporate money, Princess Weathervane could afford better ratfuckers.

[Tarc]

65. Poor l'il poppet

Sill thinks that manufactured outrage will deliver the nomination to the Bern...

[Lizzie Poppet]

85. You shouldn't try to tell me what I think.

You're spectacularly under-qualified...

[Tarc]

86. Poor l'il poppet

Sill thinks that manufactured outrage will deliver the nomination to the Bern...

[Lizzie Poppet]

87. You struggled in school, didn't you?

Off to Ignore with you...

[Tarc]

88. Finally!

It's always best when the other side blinks first.

[morningfog]

53. Lie.

[appalachiablue]

79. Not me and thousands.

[DCBob]

8. I liked Hillary's response to the Mayor's poor joke: "cautious politician time.”

[chascarrillo]

12. It was scripted. Clinton was in on the "joke." -nt-

[DCBob]

15. Yeah.. I just figured that out.

Dumb joke.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

9. Drag her...

And to posters talking about ghettos, as someone from the ATL, it is implicitly known what is meant when someone says an area of town is ghetto, don't be so obtuse

[krawhitham]

13. How is this on Hillary? Bill de Blasio is the dumb ass here

[Ed Suspicious]

22. It was a prepared skit. You can be sure it didn't take Hilly by surprise.

[cwydro]

14. How many threads will be posted on this?

You guys maybe should get together and just make one big thread.

Just silly.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

18. Don't even go there...

GDP has been spammed with pope stuff ever since Sanders announced he was visiting the Vatican by invitation.

[cwydro]

25. Whatever. Any and all of these threads from both sides are beyond stupid.

All of you need to get a damn life.

None of these threads do anything to change anyone's mind.

Basically just self abuse by supporters of both candidates.

My fault for wading into this cesspool.

[JoePhilly]

46. Until the tissues run out would be my guess.

[peacebird]

16. That "joke" fell SO flat.... It was actually almost painful to watch. Talk about tone deaf.

Who, in 2016 - the year of Black lives Matter - decides that Colored People Time is 'funny'?
Good grief.

[virtualobserver]

31. this was almost as funny as the "jump to conclusions" game in Office Space

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

35. I loved the one guy who yelled "NO" nt

[azmom]

27. Can't believe she went there. Truly in bad taste. Nt

[SHRED]

32. Another unforced error.

[jfern]

34. She's just as racist as 8 years ago

[berni_mccoy]

36. Hillary is TONE DEAF and her racism is showing

[me b zola]

64. I think that this is (one of) her way(s) of giving the Democratic base the middle finger

Of course she knows just how offensive this skit is, but IMO that is why she did it. It is her version of the Trump campaign: 'I'm so powerful that I can do this asshat thing and it will not hurt me at all'.

[FreakinDJ]

38. Hillary - your True Colors are showing

[Onlooker]

40. "If there’s one thing a wildly passionate white Bernie supporter is good at ...."

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/on-de-blasio-and-clintons-cp-time-joke.html

So what’s the response to this been? It’s been reported very little — probably because most political reporters don’t know what “CP time” is. But the #FeelTheBurn crowd is calling it racist, because if there’s one thing a wildly passionate white Bernie supporter is good at, it’s claiming that a pro-Clinton white is a worse white.

[Number23]

82. So not only is this a great big scream fest over nothing, but the whole damn thing was SCRIPTED???!

Oh my Lord, my Lord...

[Broward]

49. Hillary's into racist jokes. Who knew?

[JoePhilly]

50. THIS is what you guys are all worked up about?

Apparently the "movement" can't win on its own merits.

[glaeken777]

54. Cringeworthy

I never thought anything could dethrone the "MC Rove" rap at Bush-era WH roast as the gold standard for tone-deaf, white-boy lameass attempts at humor.

And, friends and neighbors, that is truly a gargantuan accomplishment in and of itself. In the worst way.

Ugh.

[Barack_America]

57. Just awful. And yes, I cringed.

Seems to be the natural reaction to this.

I still just can't figure out why they would ever think this is funny.

[ReasonableToo]

56. Whole thing seems scripted from start to finish - including Odom [end]

[npk]

70. It's "black people time" NOT "colored people time."

Gees spend a week in the South.