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VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:32 PM Apr 2016

Sure, I'll concede HRC's a feminist. HOWEVER.

Social issues are not the only puzzle piece in this race. Most of us, we're more than cognizant of all the wrong that Clinton did as SecState. I'm not even getting on the email thing right now, I mean the horrible foreign policy decisions that have undermined at least one nation, and severely screwed over a few others-- how can the servicemen and women of the United States be certain that a Hillary presidency will not send us into ANOTHER meaningless, "flexing our geopolitical genitalia" war like we dealt with(with her vote and the votes of many other so-called democrats for the Iraq AUMF) under the Bush presidency?

How are we supposed to vote for her if we can't trust that we won't be made to meaninglessly shed our blood over "business opportunities" and essentially dragging formerly functional countries kicking and screaming into a failed democracy?

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djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. A feminist would not put more abortion restrictions on the table.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:40 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary is a feminist on behalf of Hillary. That's all. A feminist would never say vote for me because I am a woman. That is not what feminism is about.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
6. Clinton has been on the side of/voice for women and girls thru out the world all her adult life.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:23 PM
Apr 2016

You comment is simply uninformed and ridiculous.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
4. I knew this already, but the question is mostly posed
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:46 PM
Apr 2016

to see if there's a Hillary supporter who can make a decent, logical case for a serviceman voting against their best interests wrt life, limb, and not fighting in wars that are clearly not in defense of the Constitution, as is gone over in our oath.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
5. Her feminism is limited and she does not easily and naturally honor other social issues.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:20 PM
Apr 2016

Her feminism seems strongest when it comes to women/girls like herself: white middle class, and up. We've seen and heard her condescending/disparaging attitudes toward AAs, marriage equality, non-Christians, and the poor.

Add to that her war-mongering vote and actions/words as SOS, her disregard for the environment and support of job-killing, anti-democratic trade agreements, and it becomes difficult to think of HRC as a liberal Democrat.

elana i am

(814 posts)
8. that's right. a warmonger with bad judgement is not a feminist.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:38 PM
Apr 2016

how many women (AND children) in the middle east have her choices affected negatively?

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
9. Hillary is not a feminist.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:41 PM
Apr 2016

She is adept at playing the sex card when it's convenient for her. She attributes criticism of her statements and actions to people who are sexist (misogynistic) and portrays herself as a victim. Bill helps her out too.

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