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Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 02:57 PM Apr 2016

OK, I'll Say It. Yes, Big Wall Street Donations Compromise President Obama

In defending herself against the argument that it is inherently problematic for a Democratic Party candidate for President to raise millions of dollars from Wall Street interests; through speaking fees, bundled campaign contributions, and through Super PACS, Hillary Clinton likes to bring up and compare herself to President Obama. "President Obama took more money from Wall Street in the 2008 campaign than anybody ever had,” she says, “and when it came time to stand up to Wall Street, he passed and signed the toughest regulations since the Great Depression, with the Dodd-Frank regulations." True enough, as far as that goes.

For the record, I am sympathetic to President Obama. For one thing, our economy was going under for the proverbial third time when he took office, and Obama saved us from the abyss. For another, in the immortal words of pollsters, I do believe that he cares about “people like me”, folks who are barely getting by. But Barack Obama got himself elected President, in part, by playing ball with a rigged campaign finance system.

Sarah Silverman, comedian extraordinaire, talked about playing ball in a crooked system on an episode of “Real Time with Bill Maher”:

“You know, all the baseball players use steroids... so they can compete. And, that’s how I think of Citizens United. You know, Hillary takes money from banks and big business and Super Pacs. So did Barack Obama. She’s no different than anybody else. She was the best choice, I thought, considering they all do it.

Then someone came along who doesn’t take steroids, who is not for sale” (that someone, of course, was Bernie Sanders).

So there we have the crux of the matter, neatly presented in a baseball metaphor. Big money has become to winning political campaigns what steroids was to winning baseball championships. But the question remains, does it really matter? What about Hilary’s point that Wall Street gave Barack Obama tons of money and he still “signed the toughest regulations since the Great Depression, with the Dodd-Frank regulations"?

Well for starters the Great Recession was, after all, the biggest economic downturn our nation and the world has suffered since the Great Depression. It would have been blatantly irresponsible to have done nothing about the circumstance that caused it. After the latter, our government responded with the since repealed and not yet restored Glass-Steagall Act which prohibited commercial banks from engaging in the investment business, after the failure of nearly 5,000 banks during the Great Depression. It worked pretty darned well until it was repealed under the Clinton Administration in 1999. So how does Dodd-Frank stack up? The Web site bankrate.com actually issued it a report card in December 2015, as part of a report: “Dodd-Frank rules: Late and watered down” wherein it says:

“Enacted in mid-2010, Dodd-Frank was part of the government's response to the 2008 financial crisis and Great Recession. Four years later, the law is still controversial.

Dodd-Frank encompassed 2,300 pages and required 398 new federal rules. Of that total, 231 rules have been finalized, 83 have been proposed and 94 have not yet been proposed, according to law firm Davis Polk & Wardwell.”

Overall they gave Dodd-Frank a grade of “C”, saying in way of summary: “Dodd-Frank has tightened controls on U.S. financial companies, though many of the provisions were watered down or late in coming”. Specifically regarding the often cited Voicker Rule, that limits bank's involvements in hedge funds, private equity funds, and trading in the stock market for their own profit, bankrate.com gave that a grade of “C Minus”, writing: “several major exception have been written into the rule for banks and other financial institutions.”
http://www.bankrate.com/finance/banking/dodd-frank-rules-late-and-watered-down.aspx

Do a Google search for "watered down" "Dodd-Frank", and you will get over 17,000 hits, many of which are quite substantive. While some focus on weaknesses inherent in the original legislation, much of what comes up concerns what has become of it's regulations since original passage. David Primo, a professor of political science and business administration at the University of Rochester, had this pithy observaion.

"If Congress really wanted to deal with the problems in the financial system, it would not have a disjointed regulatory process with competing and unclear jurisdictions," said Primo. "Big banks will be able to maneuver around the complex rules with the aid of very smart lawyers and financial wizards, But I'm concerned that with all these exceptions being put in place for some of the rules, it will be easier for rogue bankers to create problems at the bigger banks."
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100784177

When Professor Primo expressed concern over “all these exceptions being put in place for some of the rules” he was talking about those “398 new federal rules” referenced above that regulate Dodd-Frank, where it was noted “231 rules have been finalized, 83 have been proposed and 94 have not yet been proposed”. Those rules aren't in the domain of Congress, those are in the realm of Obama Administration appointees to draft and oversee. Any Administration that starts out having “friends on Wall Street”, ends up with “friends of Wall Street” in that Administration. Friends refer friends, that's simply how politics works.

I accept the more or less consensus that having Dodd-Frank, even in a watered down version from what was initially touted, is better than not having Dodd-Frank. I also appreciate that a Republican President, unlike Obama, would not have signed Dodd-Frank, warts and all, unless it was watered down even further. What I do not accept however is that a deluge of millions of dollars in special interest funding simply washes off the backs of fine Democratic Presidents, leaving absolutely no trace. To accept that requires more than a suspension of disbelief, it requires placing your brain in cryogenic storage.

Why is it, do you really think, that after the entire world economy was brought down to it's knees, and tens of millions lost their jobs, their homes, and all of their retirement savings, that no high level Wall Street or banking executive went to jail over the underlying fraud involved? There was a legal and political precedent to policing the aftermath of the Great Recession, it happened after the S&L crisis of the 1980s and 1990s, when 1,043 out of the 3,234 savings and loan associations in the United States failed between 1986 and 1995.

Joshua Holland of Moyers & Company, interviewed William K. Black about that. He is a former bank regulator who played an integral role in throwing a number of high-level executives in jail for white-collar crimes during the savings and loan crisis. Read what he has to say about the legal response to that economic crisis compared with the legal aftermath to the Great Recession.

“The savings and loan debacle was one-seventieth the size of the current crisis, both in terms of losses and the amount of fraud. In that crisis, the savings and loan regulators made over 30,000 criminal referrals, and this produced over 1,000 felony convictions in cases designated as “major” by the Department of Justice. But even that understates the degree of prioritization, because we, the regulators, worked very closely with the FBI and the Justice Department to create a list of the top 100 — the 100 worst fraud schemes. They involved roughly 300 savings and loans and 600 individuals, and virtually all of those people were prosecuted. We had a 90 percent conviction rate, which is the greatest success against elite white-collar crime (in terms of prosecution) in history.

In the current crisis, that same agency, the Office of Thrift Supervision, which was supposed to regulate, among others, Countrywide, Washington Mutual and IndyMac — which collectively made hundreds of thousands of fraudulent mortgage loans — made zero criminal referrals. The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, which is supposed to regulate the largest national banks, made zero criminal referrals. The Federal Reserve appears to have made zero criminal referrals; it made three about discrimination. And the FDIC was smart enough to refuse to answer the question, but nobody thinks they made any material number of criminal referrals [either]”

And what are the implications of the lack of any high level criminal prosecutions looking forward? According to Black:

“...The failure to prosecute under any theory of economics and any theory of criminality means that the next crisis is far more likely, and that it’s going to be far larger, because this accounting control fraud recipe is a sure thing that guarantees that you will be made wealthy immediately as the controlling officers, and there will be no risk — zero. Not a single elite banker who caused this crisis is in prison, period. “
http://billmoyers.com/2013/09/17/hundreds-of-wall-street-execs-went-to-prison-during-the-last-fraud-fueled-bank-crisis/

The causes of the Great Recession didn't happen on Obama's watch, but the failure to criminally prosecute a single CEO who made obscene profits while fraudulent housing schemes destroyed the American economy, most certainly did happen on Obama's watch. And that was all after, in the words of Hillary Clinton: "President Obama took more money from Wall Street in the 2008 campaign than anybody ever had,”

Let me make this as clear as I possibly can. I actually like President Obama. I think he has tried to, and in many way has succeeded at, doing a good job for the American people. I assume that Hilly Clinton would try to do the same. But I will not subscribe to the fiction that obscene amounts of campaign donations from America’s most powerful business sectors, corporations, and individuals, have no tangible effect on how political policies and priorities are set and pursued by our political leaders. The only way to avoid what I believe is an inevitable and corrosive effect on our democracy, is to have political leaders who are beholden to the American people, not to America's oligarchy, for the funding they need to run their campaigns. Unfortunately that did not include Barack Obama then, and it does not include Hillary Clinton now.

I'll close by quoting Sarah Silverman again talking about her choice this year, talking about Hillary and why she is backing Bernie: “She was the best choice, I thought, considering they all do it. Then someone came along who doesn’t take steroids, who is not for sale”.

I am proud also to here note that the above quoted William K. Black is now an official economic adviser to Senator Bernie Sanders

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OK, I'll Say It. Yes, Big Wall Street Donations Compromise President Obama (Original Post) Tom Rinaldo Apr 2016 OP
THANK YOU, Tom! elleng Apr 2016 #1
Excellent and thank you!!! nt slipslidingaway Apr 2016 #2
Great post. nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #3
Thanks for your post...K & R TheProgressive Apr 2016 #4
Same here. Wellstone ruled Apr 2016 #6
She keeps touting Dodd-Frank as some big, great piece of legislation dana_b Apr 2016 #5
Thomas Frank on Obama in his book "Listen, Liberal" BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #7
I hadn't seen those passages Tom Rinaldo Apr 2016 #11
It is very good and a quick read. I am about 85 pages in. BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #15
The steroid analogy is near perfect. Hillary supporters have no defense. reformist2 Apr 2016 #8
How sanctimonious of Tom to mention this. Can't he learn to look forward? Scuba Apr 2016 #9
Great OP Tom! KPN Apr 2016 #10
this analysis somehow ignores the fact that banks have influence over members of Congress as well. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #12
Very true. I consciously left it out Tom Rinaldo Apr 2016 #16
the provision you're referencing was put in there by Republicans in the House. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #17
Yes. And it does underscore why controlling Congress too is so important n/t Tom Rinaldo Apr 2016 #18
ironic thing is that the part of Dodd-Frank being repealed there was authored geek tragedy Apr 2016 #19
Wall Street money bought freedom for Wall Street criminals. Plain and simple. Dems to Win Apr 2016 #13
GASP!! *stutter* *stutter* *FAINTS* stillwaiting Apr 2016 #14
Taking The Baseball Analogy A Little Further.... global1 Apr 2016 #20
I can't imagine a situation in which Hortensis Apr 2016 #21
Let's take the milidest possible form for starters Tom Rinaldo Apr 2016 #23
Access? Yes. I've said so here on DU myself, Hortensis Apr 2016 #24
To be clear, I am not agreeing with your premise Tom Rinaldo Apr 2016 #25
Well, it is important not to elect Hortensis Apr 2016 #28
Agreed. It halt's progress. Corporations care about profits, not America. NT Joob Apr 2016 #22
Reality compromised him. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #26
Still looking for the evidence Obama compromised in return for money. upaloopa Apr 2016 #27
Eric Holder, Wall Street Double Agent, Comes in From the Cold (RollingStone - July 8 2015) think Apr 2016 #30
kick nt slipslidingaway Apr 2016 #29
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Same here.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:26 PM
Apr 2016

When one saw how the so called Presidential Transition Team Members were,the die had been cast,and the rest is passages in the Book of History.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
5. She keeps touting Dodd-Frank as some big, great piece of legislation
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:20 PM
Apr 2016

but they haven't done anything with it! WS and the big banks are still out of control and not ONE banker is behind bars because of Dodd-Frank.

Actions, not words!!

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
7. Thomas Frank on Obama in his book "Listen, Liberal"
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:27 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:07 PM - Edit history (1)

<Trying to pinpoint where and when the hope drained out of the Obama movement is something of a parlor game for my disgruntled friends. Some say they lost their faith in Obama even before he took office, when he named the bailout architect Tim Geithner as his choice for Treasury secretary and the deregulation architect Larry Summers as his main economic adviser. A big chunk of the public came to believe the fix was in two months into his first term, when a round of bonuses - not reprimands or indictments, mind you, but bonuses - went out to executives of the financial sinkhole known as AIG.

But all that is mere speculation. Thanks to journalistic science, we can now pinpoint the exact moment when the Obama administration formally renounced any intention of making the big historical turn it had been elected to make: it was the meeting between the new president and a roomful of nervous Wall Street CEOs on March 27, 2009. After warning them about the "pitchforks" of an angry public, Obama reassured the frightened bankers that they could count on him to protect them; that he had no intention of restructuring their industry or changing the economic direction of the nation. "Lots of drama", is how one mogul described the meeting to journalist Ron Suskind, "but at day's end, nothing much changed."

I clung to the hope a little while longer than that - I can remember the exact moment when I finally gave it up - it was the first time I heard the phrase "grand bargain", Barack Obama's pet term for his proposed deficit and tax deal with the Republicans. I a split second I understood the whole thing; that big compromises like this were real to the president, but "change" was not. I had known that Obama had a passion for centrist talk - everyone did. Bipartisan conciliation was the them of Obama's famous keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic convention. It was one of the themes of his 2008 stump speech, when he talked so inspiringly about "the politics of addition, not the politics of division."

What was so shocking about all this was to realize that Obama believed these cliches. Consensus, bipartisanship, the "center": those were the things this admirable and intelligent man was serious about - the kind of stale, empty verbiage favored by Beltway charlatans on the Sunday talk shows. The other things Obama used to say - like when he connected deregulation, corruption, and income inequality in his Cooper Union speech in 2008 - those things were just to reel in the suckers. The suckers being the people who could hear the pillars of their middle-class world snapping. The suckers being the people who could see that the system was crumbling and thought maybe we ought to do something about it.>

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
15. It is very good and a quick read. I am about 85 pages in.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:04 PM
Apr 2016

His thesis is that the Democratic Party really stopped being the party of the poor and the working and middle class a long time ago. He says if the Republican Party can be described as the party of the upper 1%, the Democrat are the party of the upper 10%, what Frank calls the professional class: doctors, lawyers, clergy, engineers, architects, economists, managers, financial planners, computer programmers, etc., a social order defined by test scores and advanced degrees. He says:

<Teachers know what we must learn; architects know what our buildings must look like; economists know what the Federal Reserve's discount rate should be; art critics know what is in good taste and what is in bad. Although we are the subjects of all these diagnoses and prescriptions, the group to which professionals ultimately answer is not the public, but their peers (and of course, their clients). They listen mainly to one another. The professions are autonomous; they are not required to heed voices from below their circle of expertise.>

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
9. How sanctimonious of Tom to mention this. Can't he learn to look forward?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:30 PM
Apr 2016

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sarcasm thing here for those w/o the gene




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KPN

(15,637 posts)
10. Great OP Tom!
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:30 PM
Apr 2016

Anyone who can't agree with Sarahs Silverman'tims explanation of why she is backing Bernie is basically minimizing the issue of corruption in government and elevating other things above it. I frankly don't understand how any Democrat can do that given the urgencies of our times.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. this analysis somehow ignores the fact that banks have influence over members of Congress as well.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:48 PM
Apr 2016

Look, for example at Chris Dodd, who left office to start cashing paychecks as head of the MPAA. Think that guy didn't have bankers whispering in his ear?



Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
16. Very true. I consciously left it out
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:06 PM
Apr 2016

This is a very long OP as it is and it is presented in the context of the Democratic Primary race for the Presidential nomination.

But here is something that I wrote for this along your lines that didn't make the final editorial cut:

Then there is this, posted at billmoyers.com on December 11, 2014:

“What’s in That Huge, Lobbyist-Driven Spending Bill?
(Editor’s note: Thursday evening, the House passed the budget bill by a vote of 219-206. It was passed by the Senate on Saturday evening, 56-40.)

Last Sunday, Rebecca Shabad reported for The Hill that good government groups were “bracing for surprises in the massive government-funding bill” that must be passed this week in order to avoid a government shutdown. K Street lobbyists were drooling over the $1 trillion dollar budget authorization, and saw it as “a final chance… to find a vehicle for their priorities.”

Now we know what some of those “surprises” are.

The provision that’s drawn the most criticism is a measure that would weaken the already watered-down Dodd-Frank financial reforms passed in the wake of the 2008 financial meltdown.

It’s a proposal that, according to The New York Times, was essentially written by lobbyists for Citigroup and targets a central provision of Dodd-Frank that limits taxpayers’ exposure by requiring banks to isolate some of their riskiest bets in business units that aren’t insured by the federal government. The idea was to try to prevent Wall Street from making the kind of reckless trades that fueled the last crisis.”
http://billmoyers.com/2014/12/11/cromnibus/



 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
17. the provision you're referencing was put in there by Republicans in the House.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:11 PM
Apr 2016

It was part of the sh!t sandwich one often has to eat when cutting legislative deals, especially when Republicans control one branch of Congress.


 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
19. ironic thing is that the part of Dodd-Frank being repealed there was authored
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:15 PM
Apr 2016

by one of the worst DINOs in the Senate at the time--Blanche Lincoln.

Or, maybe it's instructive.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
13. Wall Street money bought freedom for Wall Street criminals. Plain and simple.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:48 PM
Apr 2016

Insurance company money bought the death of the public option.

I like Obama as a person, but I'm disappointed in his presidency. He could have used his bully pulpit, but did not. His devotion to Debbie Wasserman-Schultz has led to a moribund Democratic Party nationwide, with many people suffering real harm as a result. His appointment of Tim Geithner and Rahm Emmanuel made clear that progressive ideals would have no place in his presidency, and it has proven true.

It's so disheartening that so many voters can't aspire to better today.

Thanks for the excellent OP.

global1

(25,225 posts)
20. Taking The Baseball Analogy A Little Further....
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:16 PM
Apr 2016

who winds up in the Hall of Fame? Those players that were able to achieve great success in the game without taking steroids. We wind up respecting those players. Those that take the steroids or bet on the game get shunned.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. I can't imagine a situation in which
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:18 PM
Apr 2016

any president of the United States, unable to understand the use and realities of power, would feel that accepting campaign donations would render him purchased, or even obligated. Those Duers who do imagine a very strange world. We're not talking about getting into some congressional district here.

I suspect, however, that this is merely one of many opportunistic attempts to grab on some characteristic of Sanders to imagine him above politics, which is pretty silly, but...hey! Sanders has largely run without big-money donations, an encouraging example, but that's all it is. He is no more free of debt than others are. Which is to say, no major candidate, whose great asset is his or her ability to rise to leadership of America, enters office in debt. Donors, who want a president ideologically sympathetic to their needs, understand that.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
23. Let's take the milidest possible form for starters
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:23 PM
Apr 2016

Money and access. Do you honestly believe, at the very least, that money can't buy access? That those who get to pitch their case to key decision makers (not always the President but also members of the Administration) are much more likely to be those who write large checks to help elect that Administration? But really, so much of this i the iceberg below the water line. Who recruits the people who write the regulations and what lists they get recruited from. No President has time to micro-manage that.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Access? Yes. I've said so here on DU myself,
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:36 PM
Apr 2016

trying to explain. Accepting large donations should purchase the courtesy of taking one's calls or even a meeting if it's enough. But so what? Would you back some evil chemical producer hoping to be able to poison West Virginia merely because you had coffee with him?

Donations are given to help elect a president who shares one's IDEOLOGY that donors pay for. They pay to put in office someone who believes that taking the leash off business is good for America. In other words they pay the way we vote -- for someone who thinks the way we do, who shares our values and goals.

No president could ever be bizarrely clueless enough to imagine he was "purchased." Even in comedy movies, staff is there to explain reality.

That's why most donations are concentrated at far lower levels for far better payoffs.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
25. To be clear, I am not agreeing with your premise
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:42 PM
Apr 2016

Of course no President feels like s/he is owned, but keeping allies on board and support in place is a strategic move and factors into decisions. Only a fool does not take into account potential repercussions when making decisions.And peer groups are a real filter of reality - who one spends time with colors perceptions.And then there are political favors...

But as to access, it is not simply lending ones ear for x minutes on the part of a President or staff member - it means one side gets to make a full presentation of their side of an argument while the other can not gt that level of attention.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. Well, it is important not to elect
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 05:20 PM
Apr 2016

stupid, or effectively stupid, presidents. The fullness of that bag of knowledge is important, and we don't talk about probity nearly enough.

Hillary Clinton has a lifelong history that I agree with of supporting progressive goals meant to serve the people. That history also includes such things as supporting tax benefits to churches that I do not agree with. I depend on clues like that in their history to tell me who people really are, and I ignore catch phrases and sound bites.

Bernie's vote to send Vermont's radioactive waste to a little town in Texas is the kind of clue I pay attention to, as is his decades-long commitment to breaking up big banks.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
30. Eric Holder, Wall Street Double Agent, Comes in From the Cold (RollingStone - July 8 2015)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:01 AM
Apr 2016
Eric Holder, Wall Street Double Agent, Comes in From the Cold (RollingStone - July 8 2015)

BY MATT TAIBBI July 8, 2015

Barack Obama's former top cop cashes in after six years of letting banks run wild

Eric Holder has gone back to work for his old firm, the white-collar defense heavyweight Covington & Burling. The former attorney general decided against going for a judgeship, saying he's not ready for the ivory tower yet. "I want to be a player," he told the National Law Journal, one would have to say ominously.

~Snip~

One is that he failed to win a single conviction in court for any crimes related to the financial crisis. The only trial of any consequence brought by his Justice Department for crimes related to the crisis involved a pair of Bear Stearns nimrods named Ralph Cioffi and Matthew Tannin, who confided in each other via email that the subprime markets were "toast" but told their clients something very different to keep them invested.

~Snip~

Two: Holder famously invented a concept called "collateral consequences," under which the state could pursue non-criminal alternatives for companies if they believed prosecuting them might result in too much "collateral" damage. Britain's HSBC bank, which admitted to massive money laundering violations, and the Swiss bank UBS, which was caught manipulating the Libor interest rate benchmark, were examples of firms that escaped vigorous prosecution because Holder and his lackeys were, ostensibly anyway, concerned about market-altering consequences.

~Snip~

Three: Holder also pioneered the extrajudicial settlement, striking huge deals with companies in which judges did not sign off on the agreements. The arrangement prevented pesky judges like the irksome Jed Rakoff (who voided a pair of settlements he felt were inadequate) from protesting lenient justice....

Read more:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/eric-holder-wall-street-double-agent-comes-in-from-the-cold-20150708?page=2


You can say that doesn't prove anything but the fact is Eric Holder was exactly the kind of person the corrupt banks wanted prosecuting their crimes....
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