2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFact Checking HABITUAL LIAR Hillary Clinton's FALSE Gun Claim
One of the video clips MSNBC did not want to post online was tonights April 12, 2016 clip of Lawrence ODonnell debunking a portrayal made by the Clinton campaign that Senator Bernie Sanders state of Vermont is one of the leading suppliers of guns [per capita]* flowing into New York. Here is a short write up of parts of the segment by Kristine Marsh | April 12, 2016 | 11:42 PM EDT (video)
Tuesday nights Last Word with Lawrence ODonnell on MSNBC took Hillary Clinton to task for her claims about out-of-state guns being brought into New York to commit crimes.
In a pretty obvious swing at her competitor Bernie Sanders on Monday, she made the claim that Vermont contributed to the most gun violence in New York. ODonnell fact-checked Clinton on this, saying her campaign invented an obscure and useless fact."
cont'
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kristine-marsh/2016/04/12/lawrence-odonnell-fact-checks-clinton-obscure-and-useless-guns
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/04/13/1514583/-Fact-Checking-Clinton-s-Gun-Claim
Segami
(14,923 posts)There is no other explanation.....it's habitual and she loves lying........period!...
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Jitter65
(3,089 posts)"per capita" means. Then she can also point out the incarceration RATE of blacks in Vermont. That ANY weapons used in crimes should be coming in to NY from other states is terrible. And a state as small as VT is sickening.
Segami
(14,923 posts)The state with the most number of guns per 100,000 people was, indeed, Vermont.
Yet that statistic has nothing to do with the claim that Clinton was purposefully attempting to make. In fact, only 55 of 4,585 is approximately 1% of the guns that may have originated from Vermont and ended up in New York
This is Clintons accusation of Vermont/Bernie Sanders:
Most of the guns that are used in crimes and violence and killings in New York come from out of state.
And the state that has the highest per capita number of those guns that end up committing crimes in New York come from Vermont.
..word salad to make one thing seem like another thing.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Every single statement made by Hillary Clinton should come with a warning label attached.
WARNING: Use with caution. Statements made by this candidate have a strong propensity for deceit and/or falsehood.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)okay with it because she is a woman.
Kick in to the DU tip jar?
This week we're running a special pop-up mini fund drive. From Monday through Friday we're going ad-free for all registered members, and we're asking you to kick in to the DU tip jar to support the site and keep us financially healthy.
As a bonus, making a contribution will allow you to leave kudos for another DU member, and at the end of the week we'll recognize the DUers who you think make this community great.