Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:50 AM
whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)
You know how far the party has fallen when the NY Daily News is the democrats' paper of record
Posting silly tabloid quotes as authoritative political wisdom is embarrassingly lame. Just sayin.
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whatchamacallit | Apr 2016 | OP |
geek tragedy | Apr 2016 | #1 | |
TheSarcastinator | Apr 2016 | #3 | |
morningfog | Apr 2016 | #6 | |
geek tragedy | Apr 2016 | #11 | |
jeff47 | Apr 2016 | #19 | |
geek tragedy | Apr 2016 | #20 | |
jeff47 | Apr 2016 | #21 | |
geek tragedy | Apr 2016 | #29 | |
whatchamacallit | Apr 2016 | #8 | |
JoePhilly | Apr 2016 | #2 | |
morningfog | Apr 2016 | #7 | |
TheSarcastinator | Apr 2016 | #9 | |
JoePhilly | Apr 2016 | #13 | |
Bluenorthwest | Apr 2016 | #16 | |
apcalc | Apr 2016 | #28 | |
mcar | Apr 2016 | #40 | |
Renew Deal | Apr 2016 | #4 | |
northernsouthern | Apr 2016 | #15 | |
Renew Deal | Apr 2016 | #18 | |
northernsouthern | Apr 2016 | #30 | |
Renew Deal | Apr 2016 | #32 | |
northernsouthern | Apr 2016 | #36 | |
Renew Deal | Apr 2016 | #38 | |
northernsouthern | Apr 2016 | #39 | |
Renew Deal | Apr 2016 | #41 | |
northernsouthern | Apr 2016 | #42 | |
Renew Deal | Apr 2016 | #43 | |
northernsouthern | Apr 2016 | #44 | |
Renew Deal | Apr 2016 | #45 | |
MineralMan | Apr 2016 | #5 | |
SidDithers | Apr 2016 | #10 | |
geek tragedy | Apr 2016 | #12 | |
Corruption Inc | Apr 2016 | #14 | |
BillZBubb | Apr 2016 | #17 | |
oberliner | Apr 2016 | #22 | |
Fawke Em | Apr 2016 | #26 | |
Avalux | Apr 2016 | #23 | |
Fawke Em | Apr 2016 | #24 | |
Dem2 | Apr 2016 | #25 | |
Depaysement | Apr 2016 | #27 | |
RandySF | Apr 2016 | #31 | |
TheSarcastinator | Apr 2016 | #33 | |
CalvinballPro | Apr 2016 | #34 | |
whatchamacallit | Apr 2016 | #35 | |
ViseGrip | Apr 2016 | #37 | |
Blue_Tires | Apr 2016 | #46 |
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:51 AM
geek tragedy (68,868 posts)
1. who did the NY Times endorse? nt
Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:54 AM
TheSarcastinator (854 posts)
3. well, they endorsed the invasion of Iraq
and allowed Judy Miller to fill their pages with Bush & Clinton-endorsed WMD BS that led the the deaths of hundred of thousands if not millions, so who f*cking cares?
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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:54 AM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
6. Hillary and then NYT called for her to release the transcripts.
Response to morningfog (Reply #6)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:56 AM
geek tragedy (68,868 posts)
11. obviously the transcripts stuff wasn't important enough for them to endorse her
without having seen them
The Times loves process stories. Transcripts are a classic example of a never-ending process story. |
Response to geek tragedy (Reply #11)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:51 AM
jeff47 (26,549 posts)
19. Time flows in one direction.
The endorsement was made before calls for the transcripts started.
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Response to jeff47 (Reply #19)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:52 AM
geek tragedy (68,868 posts)
20. time is a flat circle nt
Response to geek tragedy (Reply #20)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:53 AM
jeff47 (26,549 posts)
21. You're welcome to cite any evidence of that claim. (nt)
Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:55 AM
whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)
8. Well then spam their quotes instead of the NYDN garbage.
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:53 AM
JoePhilly (27,787 posts)
2. What's Joe Scarborugh think about all this?
Bernie fans seem to be turning to the insightful Joe Scabby on a regular basis these days.
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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #2)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:55 AM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
7. I got no use for either of them.
Response to JoePhilly (Reply #2)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:55 AM
TheSarcastinator (854 posts)
9. actually JoScar is firmly in the Clinton Cult
I don't know which reality you're tuned into, but if you believe conservative Joe Scarborough endorses Sanders you need to take your meds.
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Response to TheSarcastinator (Reply #9)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:59 AM
JoePhilly (27,787 posts)
13. Guess you missed this OP ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511720558
And ... http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1716294 And ... http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1703498 With plenty of Bernie supporters praising the Scabby one in each. Meanwhile, last week they threw Maddow under the bus. That's reality. |
Response to JoePhilly (Reply #13)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:28 AM
Bluenorthwest (45,319 posts)
16. I read about 'Morning Joe' from two DUers, both Clinton supporters.
I tuned in to see the show just once, to find out who his sidekicks were. Some DU moderates post about that show almost daily and I have often commented that Joe's ratings are so low that it's a waste of time mulling what he says.....
The Daily News endorsed Mitt Romney over Obama in 2012. Cite them as you wish. They call the President 'Bam' and they say 'Get a Grip, Bam!' and that sort of thing. I do not care for that sort of thing. Do you? Bam? Really? |
Response to TheSarcastinator (Reply #9)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:58 AM
apcalc (4,370 posts)
28. No
He is emphatically NOT for Hillary.
Republican all the way. |
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:54 AM
Renew Deal (80,559 posts)
4. A choice between an accomplished person like Hillary and a "fantasist"
"who’s at passionate war with reality" is a simple choice
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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #4)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:15 AM
northernsouthern (1,511 posts)
15. Wait I need to vote for that person.
A choice between an accomplished person like Hillary
You are saying there is an accomplished person that is like Hillary? So I can vote for a female president but they will be accomplished instead of Johnny Come Lately to the senate as Hillary is? |
Response to northernsouthern (Reply #15)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:40 AM
Renew Deal (80,559 posts)
18. Why are you focused on gender?
Is that all you think about when you see Hillary? Do you see her gender as an accomplishment?
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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #18)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:04 AM
northernsouthern (1,511 posts)
30. No why are you focused on gender?
I implied she had no accomplishments and merely was the last on board of any issue, but you chose to focus on her gender. That was 1/3 of my post that you focused in on. Is that all you think others think about with Hillary? Why would you even imply gender as an accomplishment? You are hung up on her gender. I on the other hand thought you were talking about an accomplished politician that was "like" Hillary as you said it, and I was not sure what the like was...since Bernie is accomplished, but you were against him by the tone of your first post it couldn't have to do with party affiliation, and Hillary is white and has white or graying hair so that is also like Bernie, height is far too specific a detail, but a female politician that could break the glass ceiling would be great, so I guess I figured you were implying that aspect of her...so I figured you were talking about Warren, Turner, Gabbard, etc. I was just wondering which one you were endorsing?
Sorry if I thought you were talking about a female, who was this politician "like" Hillary, but with accomplishments? |
Response to northernsouthern (Reply #30)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:07 AM
Renew Deal (80,559 posts)
32. Your words "So I can vote for a female president"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1720885
You entered gender into the discussion. |
Response to Renew Deal (Reply #32)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:25 PM
northernsouthern (1,511 posts)
36. Why are you so obsessed with her gender?
I said
And you only saw the part not in bold? You zeroed in on her sex? You don't seem to have an issue that you were saying she did not have experience? Why are you so infatuated by it? Plus you still have not told me who this candidate "like" Hillary Clinton was? Why do you keep dodging the question? What are you trying to hide? Is it Cruz you were going to say was like Hillary? |
Response to northernsouthern (Reply #36)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:08 PM
Renew Deal (80,559 posts)
38. You brought it up
why?
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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #38)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:15 PM
northernsouthern (1,511 posts)
39. why?
Why did I bring up that you seem obsessed with Hillary's gender? Because I was not sure if it was a healthy obsession. Also why did you not deny the Cruz line? Are you referring to him instead?
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Response to northernsouthern (Reply #39)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:20 PM
Renew Deal (80,559 posts)
41. No. Why did you bring up gender in the first place.
I said:
A choice between an accomplished person like Hillary and a "fantasist" "who’s at passionate war with reality" is a simple choice You said: You are saying there is an accomplished person that is like Hillary? So I can vote for a female president but they will be accomplished instead of Johnny Come Lately to the senate as Hillary is? Why does her gender stand out to you enough to bring it up? |
Response to Renew Deal (Reply #41)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:29 PM
northernsouthern (1,511 posts)
42. Wait?
You said:
You are right I did not notice that you said the person was like Hillary but accomplished and a fantasist... Is that why you are hinting at Cruz? I am not sure if you are on the correct forum, this is the DNC, the closest we get to republican is the third way. |
Response to northernsouthern (Reply #42)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:32 PM
Renew Deal (80,559 posts)
43. The NY Daily News called Bernie a "fantasist who’s at passionate war with reality"
Response to Renew Deal (Reply #43)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:56 PM
northernsouthern (1,511 posts)
44. Oh, thanks for clarifying that.
The NYDN, they are a well respected newspaper right? A very non-biased source? I have not heard of them yet.
So if I am understanding you correctly you are saying Bernie is the candidate with accomplishments that is also "fantasist" like Hillary? |
Response to Renew Deal (Reply #43)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:13 PM
Renew Deal (80,559 posts)
45. Here is what the NY Daily News said...
On April 19, New York Democrats will have unusual say over the party’s nominee. They have in Clinton a superprepared warrior realist. They have in opponent Bernie Sanders a fantasist who’s at passionate war with reality.
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/vote-hillary-clinton-article-1.2598171 |
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:54 AM
MineralMan (144,947 posts)
5. Who is calling that paper any sort of "paper of record?"
The answer is: Nobody. It is a New York City tabloid. It publishes what it chooses to publish, just like most newspapers.
It endorsed Hillary Clinton. Other papers have done the same. That is their prerogative. Any newspaper can endorse anyone it chooses. The NY Daily News is not, in any way, a "paper of record." The only one using that phrase is you. It is just another newspaper. |
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:55 AM
SidDithers (44,228 posts)
10. Bernie fans seem to like the NY Observer...
you know, the one owned by Trump's son-in-law.
Sid |
Response to SidDithers (Reply #10)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:56 AM
geek tragedy (68,868 posts)
12. and the NY post nt
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Corruption Inc This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:29 AM
BillZBubb (10,650 posts)
17. None of the major papers should be the paper of record for Democrats.
They are all tarnished by the corporate stench.
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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:54 AM
oberliner (58,724 posts)
22. The NY Times has endorsed Hillary
That is really the paper of record for Democrats.
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Response to oberliner (Reply #22)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:57 AM
Fawke Em (11,366 posts)
26. It shouldn't be after Judith Miller.
Frankly, the old gray lady seems to be far more corporate than Dems should like.
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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:54 AM
Avalux (35,015 posts)
23. I was just thinking the same thing - Hillary Inc. loves that tabloid propaganda. n/t
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:54 AM
Fawke Em (11,366 posts)
24. Isn't it just some creepy tabloid?
It was when I was a newspaper reporter, some 13 years ago.
I considered it about the same level as the shock mags with pictures of Bat Boy and alien leaders meeting with the president. |
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:56 AM
Dem2 (8,164 posts)
25. At least it isn't the NY Post
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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:58 AM
Depaysement (1,835 posts)
27. NYDN was owned by the Tribune Co
Longtime Republican paper until the 70s. Now owned by neocon "Democratic" billionaire Mort Zuckerman. This guy makes Dinos look like radical leftists.
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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:09 AM
RandySF (41,399 posts)
31. Maybe Pravda is still in print.
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:10 AM
TheSarcastinator (854 posts)
33. The Clinton Cult Just Cited the WSJ in Another Thread
It's Rupert Murdoch and KKKarl Rove all the way for the Hillaryans.
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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:12 AM
CalvinballPro (1,019 posts)
34. What about how far the Left has fallen when it's citing Joe Scarborough?
Just sayin'. Derp
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Response to CalvinballPro (Reply #34)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:34 AM
whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)
35. You're not left?
Don't answer, we already know. Derp
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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:02 PM
ViseGrip (3,133 posts)
37. this has been hard to watch. along with more war, secret speeches, etc. just dandy!
Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:17 PM
Blue_Tires (55,445 posts)
46. I see Dems here regularly citing Sputnik, RT, InfoWars, Zerohedge, etc.
Please keep telling us how "embarrassingly lame" the Daily News is...
We know damn well you'd be singing a different tune had they endorsed Sanders, so kindly piss off. |