Nurses for Bernie is committing grafitti at New York subways entrances (the green entrances)

[hill2016]

Last edited Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:20 PM - Edit history (1)

Anyone else noticed that? I'll post a picture when I can. It seems pervasive and all over.


http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/dsny/about/laws/posting-and-graffiti-laws.shtml

It is illegal for any person to affix or attach any sticker or decal on a public or private building or structure. There is a rebuttable presumption that the person whose name, telephone number, or any other identifying information appears on any sticker or decal is in violation. Every sticker or decal shall be deemed a separate violation. Anyone found to have violated this provision, in addition to any penalty imposed, shall also be responsible for the cost of the removal of the unauthorized sticker or decal.

Fine: $150–$500

Cool...we can make them pay $150 - 500 per violation since their logo is clearly included. Let me report to the NYPD. I know people who work in City Hall as well. We should also alert the media to get citizens involved to track down each separate violation.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Nurses are terrible people, obviously.

[hill2016]

2. yes if they break the law and are a public nuisance

[gabeana]

36. I know huh

oh the vapors

[KittyWampus]

108. They are a SuperPac, which Bernie swears he doesn't have helping him.

[NWCorona]

3. Any pictures

[Avalux]

4. Pervasive and all over - like Hillary's lies?

Can't wait to see this so-called graffiti.

[chascarrillo]

5. Those superpredators! -nt-

[Codeine]

8. I'm very much a Clinton supporter,

but that was genuinely clever.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. Superpredator nurses with chalk!

Oh, the humanity!

[Fawke Em]

14. Wait - it was chalk?

LOL! I think the NYPD has more important things to do than worry about someone using a washable substance to write something on a wall.

I guess the OP would arrest kids for drawing hop-scotch, scooter lanes and tic-tac-toe on the sidewalk.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

19. Actually, it was the blood of puppies. Those nurses are EVIL!

[840high]

32. Good one.

[KittyWampus]

109. Stop referencing Sanders' vote for the Crime Bill…

Why DOES he attack Clinton over that Crime Bill that he voted for?

Is he dishonest or forgetful?

[TM99]

115. Yeah, fuck women

Sanders should have voted against that bill and the VAWA.

Y'all are pathetic.

[Nanjeanne]

6. I don't know what are worse. Nurses or young people. It's so confusing.

[hill2016]

7. criminals are

[JudyM]

16. Nurses putting up signs are more "criminal" than a woman who takes and gives what certainly appear

to be enormous bribes. Not to mention her other "issues" with the FBI etc.

Because we know you are outraged at crimes that matter.

[dchill]

30. +1,000,001

[KittyWampus]

110. How about candidates who lie about having SuperPacs?

[chascarrillo]

10. Now a call out to the racist NYPD. How surprising. -nt-

[JudyM]

11. Shows your deep heart of compassion for the underpaid, overworked people who are most caring

as professions go. Screw what they think matters, because: Hillary.

[hill2016]

13. why are they breaking the law?

[JudyM]

20. If they are. Maybe because the *media* is not communicating enough about what they believe matters.

[gabeana]

39. I know if you were around when Rosa Parks

refused to give up her seat, you would of been screaming law breaker
now I am just having fun I am positive you agree with what parks did lets calm down here, do not go overboard

[hill2016]

117. Rosa Parks protested on civil rights

I don't see any such issue here. Just a bunch of Bernie supporters who think they have the right to deface public property.

[Bohemianwriter]

118. Apparently...

Only religion and corporations and money is protected by the 1st amendment.

Stickers with a political message in a public space is not.

Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson are rolling in their graves.

History is full of criminals who fought for noble things. The Revolution for instance. I mean, you wouldn't call the Boston Tea Party a laswfull act, would you?
Apparently, stickers in public place is worse than speeding, and as bad as drug dealing since you call the nurse who put it up "criminal".

Oh, the irony!

[gabeana]

119. I don't expect much from a lot of this Hillary crowd on DU

they get the vapors a lot

[jberryhill]

76. You keep using the word "they"

Obviously someone put that there. A person. Not an organization, but an individual human being.

If you know who that human being might be, then by all means report that person.

But the organization is not shown by you or anyone else to have committed a violation.

How many co-conspirators do you reckon it took to pull off this caper?

[Avalux]

99. PROVE THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW OR SHUT THE FUCK UP. n/t

[riderinthestorm]

12. You're really going to ratfink nurses?

Just...wow.

SMH.

[Kittycat]

112. I hope she wears her Hillary shirt

When she shows up in the ER, and explains that she fell trying to rip the stickers off. Oh Noes. Stickers! It will give them all some good laughs for the night when they work their 12 hour shifts, doing double duty for crappy benefits and less pay than they deserve caring for people.

[TeeYiYi]

15. It never would've crossed my mind...

...to go after the other candidate's supporters rather than work to build up my own candidate.

Especially when those supporters are nurses...

TYY

[HughLefty1]

47. It's really sickening..

Establishment antics perfected by the GOP.

[Divernan]

77. If your candidate gives you nothing to work with, go attack nurses!

And that's the perfect, "Clinton tone", i.e., going negative and petty.

[bobbobbins01]

21. The Bernie Bros strike again!

How can anyone support this madness!!!!

[NWCorona]

23. So are you against the nurses in this op?

[NCTraveler]

27. That is right down the road from me. That beach attracts a lot of local artists.

No, not like these shithead vandals, real local artists.

[Autumn]

64. After a nice rain it will be pristine once again. Chalk art is different than fracking

in terms of impact on nature.

[NCTraveler]

65. I find your ability to justify anything to be very impressive. nt.

[Autumn]

68. Are you saying chalk on your pristine beach is more important than fracking that harms

my environment? Rain will wash chalk away, or even a water hose, it won't reduce the harm fracking does. Someone's justifying things but its not me. Chalk on trees has no impact on anything, other than perpetual outrage.

[NCTraveler]

69. I trust it when local law enforcement and the three major local outlets...

who have been to the beach and state that most of it is painted to be accurate.

I have no clue why you are equating it to fracking. I find your belief that nothing can be bad unless it rises to the level of fracking to be laughable.

[Autumn]

71. Now you almost have it. Chalk is approved by Bernie supporters because it washes away, no harm on

the environment. Some Clinton supporters here seem to be just fine with fracking because Hillary.... It's a matter of what really messes up pristine areas and what raises the level of outrage. Outraged over chalk graffiti. Chalk bad.

[NCTraveler]

72. I have no clue what you are talking about now. You are all over the place.

You clearly aren't educated on the vandalism. Not shocked you support painting political slogans on trees at beaches. Not surprised at all.

[Autumn]

75. No, I am clearly discussing chalk graffiti and fracking. You also don't paint with chalk.

I'm surprised you don't know that. You paint with assorted varieties of paint which does not as a rule clean up easily and draw with chalk which washes off easily. Very easily. Simply put chalk drawings on a sidewalk or tree will be easily cleaned from your pristine beach. You are outraged over chalk drawings , I am outraged over the damage fracking does to our environment.

[NCTraveler]

94. Supporting vandalism because of fracking.

One of the best conversations I have had here. I'm beyond impressed.

[Autumn]

100. You like art I like art, I consider it art so I'm good with it. Some like a

chalk drawing that washes away some don't. Kids draw on the sidewalk outside all the time with chalk, I'm adult enough to realize that does no harm. But I'm also impressed that you guys for some time have been reduced to whining about what Bernie supporters do because obviously you can't go against Bernie stand on the issues. But I really do hope for rain to fall on your beach just to sooth your angst over the chalk drawings, once you see it washes away the chalk you'll feel better. Have a nice day, and by that I mean have a nice day.

[nadinbrzezinski]

104. This is relevant

even if in another state

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Jeff-Olson-Man-Tried-for-Chalk-Drawings-Found-Not-Guilty-213878081.html

[TeeYiYi]

122. Wow. Thank you for that, Nadin...

I'm guessing the jurors respected his right to freedom of speech. I'd be curious to read the details of that case. What an excellent, precedent setting decision.

TYY

[nadinbrzezinski]

123. That was exactly what the Jurors said

the DA was not pleased.

[TeeYiYi]

124. Too fucking bad, Mr. 1% wannabe DA...

The people have had it with America's corrupt banking system. Enough is enough!

TYY

[TheCowsCameHome]

34. Did you see the source? More RW-site BULLSHIT

http://drrichswier.com/about-dr-rich-swier/

Why not add links to Hannity, Coulter, Beck and all the other conservative scumbags while you're at it.

They love the help you so eagerly give them.

[NCTraveler]

66. Here you go.

http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/story/bad-bad-bernie-buddies

http://www.bradenton.com/news/local/crime/article70371532.html#storylink=cpy

It was actually on all the local news channels.

[TeeYiYi]

38. Wow, NurseJackie...

...maybe you could lead the brigade to smoke those nurses out and bring these scofflaws to justice!



TYY

[NurseJackie]

40. If I could, I would. They're breaking the law and if caught, they deserve to be punished or fined.

Go, Hillary! We love you!

[me b zola]

58. Breaking the law!!!

[frylock]

114. Raking the Lawn.

[me b zola]

116. LOL, you found a picture of my brother

[Autumn]

63. Hillary needs to go after those chalk makers. Make it to where they can be sued!

http://drrichswier.com/2016/04/05/bernie-sanders-supporters-vandalize-pristine-beach/

Because vandalism that can be cleaned off by dumping a bucket of water on it can not stand!!! How horrible!!!

[NV Whino]

41. Dead horse already beaten

[NurseJackie]

42. Apparently not as dead as you imagine. This illustrates a pattern of behavior.

[TheCowsCameHome]

44. Yes, that woman will die of lung cancer by her 50th birthday

[The Old Lie]

46. One did. :(

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-frieden-md-mph/terrie-hall-a-beautiful-w_b_3954443.html

[Uponthegears]

52. Nice Source Hill

http://drrichswier.com/about-dr-rich-swier/

Are you going to give is a Hallelujah and a link to his Sanger is a Demon page too?

[pinebox]

57. You linked to a website which brags about Rush Limbaugh agreeing with them?

Seriously?

[TheCowsCameHome]

18. Trey Gowdy is on it. Relax, you've done your job.

Snitch

[SFnomad]

26. And here I thought Gowdy was busy with the Colorado Caucus counts n/t

[NCTraveler]

22. Check this out. Right down the road from me.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511670201

[jillan]

24. Nurses are under the bus! Over chalk!

[riderinthestorm]

29. No, they "committed graffiti"1!!1 Its to jail with them. hill2016 is going to personally snitch nt

[Else You Are Mad]

80. Maybe...

We should take a cue from Hillary's favorite middle eastern nation -- Saudia Arabia -- and cut off the hands of those nurses responsible and behead those that run the Union.

The Faux Hilla-rage machine rolls on....

[questionseverything]

83. nurses=mean

bernie so mean and now he has made the nurses mean toooooooo

<<<where are my smelling salts>>>>>


swoonnnnnnn

[CalvinballPro]

25. Probably a bunch of out-of-towners thinking they can do whatever they want.

Supporters of Sanders show their respect for NYC by shitting all over it.

Stay classy, Bros.

[alcibiades_mystery]

28. GRAFFITI IN NEW YORK CITY?????? The horror.

[vintx]

106. Right?

Whoever heard of such a thing!

[Octafish]

31. THIS nurse?

[dchill]

33. wow

that's really unethical.

[Armstead]

35. It would be nice if you cared about Corporate Crime as much as youi want to persecute nurses

Sometimes some posts approach cartoon status

[840high]

37. You are just too much

fun to put on ignore.

[workinclasszero]

43. More dirty tricks for Bernie?

Pathetic.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

45. There has never been any pro-Hillary graffiti anywhere.

Oh, wait...



I do admit this was well-done. But it was still illegal, no?

[Else You Are Mad]

82. Oh ugh...

Nothing to see here, move along. Isn't Sanders going to the Vatican and what about his taxes?!! Or any other non sequitur that Hillary supporters use when they are caught in a contradiction.

[Cheese Sandwich]

48. Jail the nurses! Bullhorn Bill roams free though. Wall street superpredators roam among us.

[Tarc]

50. Wasn't Camp Sanders raising a stick about Hillary campaigning on a subway car the other day?

What's good for the goose...

[Buddyblazon]

49. Bragging about being a rat?

Guess who was the hall monitor in junior high.

[jillan]

51. STILL Waiting for proof.

[TeeYiYi]

54. It's so "pervasive"...

...that it's just taking them a little longer to consolidate all of the bags, boxes and bindles of evidence for toting back to headquarters.

Prepare for all the upcoming image-heavy posts to break the internets.

TYY

[hill2016]

87. i've posted two photos

[TeeYiYi]

91. I'll alert the media. ..nt

TYY

[hill2016]

61. i've posted one

[k8conant]

53. I guess you're expecting us to go to NYC to search for what you're talking about in the OP

Pictures??

[840high]

59. You don't need no stinkin' pictures

nurses are the most destructive people in the world

[hill2016]

62. i've posted one

[jberryhill]

81. Who put it there?

[me b zola]

111. Those hooligan nurses!

Their prestigious nursing careers should be canned for their political activities!
We can't have people Breakin the Law:

[Peace Patriot]

55. Don't worry. NYC will be flooded soon enough by rising ocean tides...

...if the Frakking & Fossil Fuel candidate, Hillary Clinton, or any of her brethren in the clown party makes it to the White House. White House may get flooded, too. It's in a swamp.

No more worries about graffiti!

Couple of worries, though, about where to relocate Wall Street and the White House to.

Rule out coastal states. Rule out frakking states (earthquakes, methane, poisoned water). Rule out states with dead soil (no food). Rule out cities with riot potential (unruly). Rule out Alaska (too hot). Rule out Hawaii (under water). Foreign countries? Got some of those under the thumb, but they, too, will become unlivable with global warming. How about Mars? No graffiti--that's a plus. Bit of a problem with transmission times for investment speculators, which require nanosecond trades. And living in a bubble could get claustrophobic. Who knows what our rulers might do living in a bubble on Mars?

[me b zola]

56. Nice post snitchy McSnitch that no kid ever liked in school

"Ima tell on you!" Yeah, thats been known to win lots of friends and influence even more!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

60. OMG!! Save the children!!

[Kentonio]

67. Brought to you by the poster who once claimed that $250,000 was middle class

And was hardly enough to break even considering the price of nannies and housekeepers.

[Autumn]

70. OMG Now I remember. Those poor people with their problems affording

nannies and housekeepers, private schools and vacations. My heart broke when I read of their struggles to afford those things.

[Kentonio]

90. I salute the good work you do here at DU.

[me b zola]

95. Marking this spot to come back to tell you just how disgusting your post is

[vintx]

105. HOLY SHIT!

[Vinca]

73. Isn't this identical to another post you put up?

How many more of the exact same thing can we expect to see? At least locate a new picture . . . anything.

[hill2016]

86. i've posted a second photo

[SDJay]

96. I Thought So Too,

so I looked. Yep, this is the second thread on this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511722965

This one seems to have worked out better than the first one. So to speak.

[DefenseLawyer]

74. You got any promising.... uh.... leads?

[TubbersUK]

78. Thanks - love it and most apropos :) n/t

[jberryhill]

79. No, they are not - please read your ordinance again...

Obviously, some individual put that sticker there.

I doubt it required much of a conspiracy for that person to put it there.

The ordinance to which you cite refers to a "person". Now, I realize that corporations are people and all that... However, unless you have information suggesting the organization somehow authorized, organized or directed this activity, then it would appear that some individual did indeed put that sticker there.

That individual committed an offense.

But I don't see where you get off saying the entire organization somehow was required in a vast sticker conspiracy.

[hill2016]

89. if we can prove

that one or more people acted in agreement, then it becomes a conspiracy charge?

http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article105.htm

[jberryhill]

98. Your headline accuses the entire organization

But, no, you are not going to add any additional "charge" other than a citation for an infraction.

Even if it took two people to place the sticker, which is certainly questionable, I still don't see how you justify your headline for this thread - in which you accuse an organization of wrongdoing on no basis whatsoever.

The defamation you have committed - since you clearly have no evidence that the organization is responsible - is, in the real world, much more substantial in terms of hypothetical liability than the fine for placing the stickers.

[anigbrowl]

121. That's generally how cities prosecute illegal advertising

Sure, they can't prove the owner of a nightclub or restaurant personally ordered the stickers put there, but it's easy for the city to win a civil judgment under the doctrine of Respondeat Superior and typically Public Works just sends a bill to the originating organization. On the other hand electroal communications are usually given wide latitude. Too wide, if you ask me; 6 months after the last election none of the losing candidates' campaigns have made any effort to clean up the signs placed on utility poles etc. in my neighborhood. Thanks a lot, assholes.

[pantsonfire]

84. You know how to spend your time wisely, my friend, as Groucho Marx....

...once said, "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies."

[HERVEPA]

85. Go suck an egg. And if you get sick, maybe you can find a nurse to help.

[Karmadillo]

92. No intent to harm national security, so I don't think there will be any charges.

[jmg257]

93. I hear rats like cheese...is your fave Cheddar?

[pangaia]

97. GREAT POST, Hill.. One of your best yet..

No. I hadn't noticed it...

BRAVA !!

[Ned_Devine]

101. Is this from The Onion?

[nichomachus]

102. Wow -- terrible. Because that never happens in NYC. Never. Ever.

[democrank]

103. Maybe you could round up a herd of authoritarians

and rid New York (and with luck, the entire country) of these grafitti committers. These nurses MUST be stopped!!!!1!!!1!!!!!!!!11!!

I liked your bold-print fine information ($150-$500)....a real motivator.

Maybe, if we were vigilant, we could punish a pediatric nurse, a couple emergency room nurses and a hospice nurse from a single handful of decals!

USA! USA! USA!

[bigwillq]

107. Did you call the police? (nt)

[floppyboo]

113. THANK YOU HILL2016!!!!!

Best laugh of the moment!!! Can't wait for SNL to get hold of this post! I don't do twitter - can anyone else help out here?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

120. so that is all you are worried about

maybe you should worry about the election

[hughee99]

125. Unbelievable that some people think they can just break the law with impunity!

I'm glad the transit police are on the job. I haven't been this outraged since Bill Clinton was campaigning at a polling place during the MA primary.

By the way, I keep hearing about how Sanders has "no path" to the nomination. If so, why does any of this matter?

[pugetres]

126. Inquiring minds want to know...

What happened when you got around to reporting it to the police and to your people in city hall?

Did the cops take the complaint over the phone? Do they send a team out to the crime scene? I've never called on a bumper sticker before so I don't know what's involved.

But, I have called city hall before with a grievance... twice. Both times I had a resolution within hours of talking to the right person. Hopefully you had the same luck.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

127. You're like ProSense, but less capable.