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NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 08:25 AM Apr 2016

Hey, Bernie! Quit Your Tea-Partying and Get Serious in N.Y.

Our very own Tea Party has the same formless sense of rage and entitlement as the one on the right, the same disinterest in facts, willful ignorance of hypocrisy and core belief that compromise is the same as treason. Like the one on the right, it has chosen an election as its vehicle, and its campaign tone is set by the same frothing Pharisees who demand purity or political death. And like the angry horde on the right, it’s a hollow husk—its members simply don’t see that campaigning is very different from governing. And what’s worse? Its rank-and-file don’t want to know.

It’s a world in which if you aren’t my best friend, you are my sworn enemy. Where lust for ideology and a cult of personality rule and followers are ignorant of the occasional vicissitudes of governing. Where half-baked rumors are accepted and even cherished, and where the other side’s talking points are ignorantly and gleefully redeployed as friendly fire. It’s a world where Rachel Maddow and Paul Krugman’s liberal cred is derided as insufficient, and where elected officials who have decades-long track records of meaningful progressive policymaking are sneered at as corporate stooges—and where Hollywood starlets explain to Dolores Huerta about what activism REALLY looks like.

And in this bizarre world, a campaign that has no realistic path to victory has changed direction and is speeding along the lowest road of politics. Sen. Bernie Sanders started this campaign as a happy warrior, fighting hard on some of the most valuable issues that we face as a nation. Not the least of those issues is the corrosive force of money in politics. Mr. Sanders was both righteous and right-on to crusade against a system that’s swayed by dollars and in thrall to corporate culture. Yes, yes, and yes again. There is no questioning the foundational values that he’s inserted forcefully into the national debate, and I salute him for it. He’s been right all along in that respect. Yet, I ask: What’s his plan to get the political system out from under Citizens United?


http://observer.com/2016/04/hey-bernie-quit-your-tea-partying-and-get-serious-in-n-y/


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Hey, Bernie! Quit Your Tea-Partying and Get Serious in N.Y. (Original Post) NCTraveler Apr 2016 OP
Hillary bros. frylock Apr 2016 #1
Win. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #3
Tiger's blood. frylock Apr 2016 #4
Cute fuzzy kittens. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #6
Irony. A post about Tea Baggers, when mostly Tea Baggers use Eagle and Flag avatars. TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #16
I don't frequent Tea Bagger sites so am not familiar with their favorite avatars. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #17
They're not just on bagger sites, so you can stop pretending you don't know this. TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #18
Funny you mention projecting. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #19
It is to someone who got called out on it. TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #20
Called out on what? Nt NCTraveler Apr 2016 #21
You present as more Libertarian than you would like to admit or possibly could comprehend. TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #29
Lol. You projection comment has taken on all new meaning. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #35
Bernie Sanders stopped by to question your logic. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #25
You must be very worried 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #28
this is the last straw...welcome to my ignore list. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #2
Take care. I appreciate you giving me the heads up. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #5
Bernie is right about 99% of the time. End of message. nc4bo Apr 2016 #7
Attacking those who speak out against the Oligarchy. What a shock! Skwmom Apr 2016 #8
Turgid. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #9
A bodice-ripping political thriller... Can't wait for the movie. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2016 #36
Look out Bernie Derangement Syndrome is spreading! morningfog Apr 2016 #10
More of the same "Let the adults run things" that has been used for 35 years to... Armstead Apr 2016 #11
That's why Obama uses that term regularly to push garbage like the TPP. JRLeft Apr 2016 #12
More outrageous comparisons. Lies and truth-twisting is all Clinton is offering. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #13
Huh Dem2 Apr 2016 #14
That was excellent. Lucinda Apr 2016 #15
Well, I guess that's our whole primary in a nutshell mdbl Apr 2016 #22
yes, similar things were said about Obama and his supporters in 2008. Vattel Apr 2016 #23
Ridiculous shit to compare Bernie supporters to the Tea Party jfern Apr 2016 #24
Great way to get Bernie supporters to vote for Hillary in November. Vinca Apr 2016 #26
Maybe they want more Indys to exist? hereforthevoting Apr 2016 #27
Many of us thought the party had left us before this election. Now it seems like a sure thing. Vinca Apr 2016 #31
I was pretty sure my views were well enough represented hereforthevoting Apr 2016 #33
Rachel Maddow is following the marching orders.. Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #30
Not bad ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #32
Just more cover and deflection for the corporatists running things. Broward Apr 2016 #34
Tea Party Talk: Chapter One, Ronald Reagan Was A Saint! Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #37
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
17. I don't frequent Tea Bagger sites so am not familiar with their favorite avatars.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:04 PM
Apr 2016

It's laughable to think Tea Baggers own the rights to the majestic Bald Eagle or the American Flag.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
18. They're not just on bagger sites, so you can stop pretending you don't know this.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 10:06 PM
Apr 2016

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It's a certain kind of mentality that tries to project to others that they are somehow more patriotic.


They do it because their words and actions contradict that message.


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TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
29. You present as more Libertarian than you would like to admit or possibly could comprehend.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 08:09 AM
Apr 2016
 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
28. You must be very worried
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 08:06 AM
Apr 2016

Your posts show serious concern. I can always tell when the Hill camp is worried by what you whine about each day. You use a lot of projection.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
9. Turgid.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:09 PM
Apr 2016
frothing Pharisees?

Where lust for ideology and a cult of personality rule and followers are ignorant of the occasional vicissitudes of governing.

speeding along the lowest road of politics'

The author should take up writing bodice ripping "romantic" novels and make a fortune. Rather than attempting write political commentary.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,161 posts)
36. A bodice-ripping political thriller... Can't wait for the movie.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 09:12 AM
Apr 2016

I hope they've signed up Fabio to play Machiavelli.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
11. More of the same "Let the adults run things" that has been used for 35 years to...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:15 PM
Apr 2016

stifle dissent and opposition to the neoloberal corporate agenda.

Same crap that were thrown when people were fighting against financial deregulation, WTO/NAFTA con jobs in the 90's, Iraq War in the 00's....

It's so predictable when anyone challenges the frames that the oligarchs put in place.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
12. That's why Obama uses that term regularly to push garbage like the TPP.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:18 PM
Apr 2016

That phrase means shut the fuck up we know what's best for you.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
13. More outrageous comparisons. Lies and truth-twisting is all Clinton is offering.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:19 PM
Apr 2016

And still her supporters don't understand why her trust numbers are dismal (57% of all voters don't trust her).

Dem2

(8,178 posts)
14. Huh
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:28 PM
Apr 2016

That was rude and I hate to admit this, but there are some nuggets of truth in there.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
15. That was excellent.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:35 PM
Apr 2016

Painful to think that so much negativity and hostility exists on our side of the street too, but we see it every day now.

mdbl

(8,650 posts)
22. Well, I guess that's our whole primary in a nutshell
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 06:23 AM
Apr 2016

and you have to be pretty nutty to just dwell on the few things cited in the OP which tries to sound intelligent and ends with a ridiculous question.

Vinca

(53,986 posts)
26. Great way to get Bernie supporters to vote for Hillary in November.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 08:04 AM
Apr 2016

Nothing says unity like calling leftie voters tea partiers.

Vinca

(53,986 posts)
31. Many of us thought the party had left us before this election. Now it seems like a sure thing.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 08:10 AM
Apr 2016

hereforthevoting

(241 posts)
33. I was pretty sure my views were well enough represented
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 08:13 AM
Apr 2016

Then I get a taste of having virtually 100% policy agreement with a person running and now.... identity crisis. It can't be enough that dems are for choice and marriage for all people. That is already codified law, so let's do get down to the nitty gritty!

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
30. Rachel Maddow is following the marching orders..
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 08:09 AM
Apr 2016

Remember how she was "bashing" Hillary in 2008 together with Olbermann?

Those times have changed, haven't they?

Besides, people are sick and tired of the cronyism in DNC and DLC. People are sick and tired of RW politics and the corruption.

People are sick and tired of knowing that their tax money goes to bail out criminal banks and endless wars instead of investing in the youth (education - but the Hillarybots calls "free stuff we can't afford), infrastructire and healthcare.
Funny how the Hillary camp always finds money to bomb other people but not the money to educate their kids.

Broward

(1,976 posts)
34. Just more cover and deflection for the corporatists running things.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 08:17 AM
Apr 2016

Long live the American oligarchy.

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