Bernie has now apologized for the "whore" remark and ...

[salinsky]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Goblinmonger (a host of the 2016 Postmortem forum).

... acknowledged that it was entirely inappropriate.

Perhaps his supporters here who were so vociferous in defending and rationalizing the comment would like to follow suit.

Who would like to go first?

Not everyone at once, now ....

[Dem2]

1. Link?

[salinsky]

5. https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/720590717706506240

[Dem2]

10. Thank you

He's right, there is no place for language like that.

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/720590717706506240

(easier to follow link in body of post)

[salinsky]

16. Oops ...

... thanks for the pro tip.

[brush]

70. Here ya go.

“Dr. Song’s comment was inappropriate and insensitive. There’s no room for language like that in our political discourse,” Sanders tweeted Thursday.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

22. "Bernie is obviously more gracious than I am"

Let's just say it's "cautious politician" time.

[salinsky]

23. Haha ...

... I see what you did there.

[beam me up scottie]

3. When was someone called a whore? I thought the term was "corporate whores"?

That's been used here for years.

[Dem2]

7. In context, it's much worse than I initially thought

[salinsky]

9. That's really disgusting. nt

[NorthCarolina]

45. It's is CLEAR to any thinking person he was referring to "Corporate Whore".

I associate ALL Third-Way Democrats with the term "Corporate Whores" simply because they are. That's how they make their living. I don't think he revealed anything most folks don't already know.

[salinsky]

47. He referred to Hillary directly twice ...

... and then used the term "corporate Democratic whores".

Really despicable.

Bernie was right to apologize.

You should follow his lead on this.

[revbones]

65. Well, if the shoe fits...

Corporate whore:

One who has sold more than their labor to the corporation; one who has forsaken personal values and constitution for corporate $$; meaning of "whore" belittled when preceded by the word “corporate”; person who will sell their soul for $$.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=corporate+whore

Basically it does apply to Hillary and many Democrats as well as most if not all Republicans...

[Buttons3345]

147. Did you put the shoes on?

Do they fit? Someone forgot to teach you manners! Naughty, naughty!

[NorthCarolina]

73. Personally I don't believe there was any need for him TO apologize.

I firmly believe that Third-Way Democrats are the epitome of "Corporate Whores". Why? Because they are. It's how they make their fortunes.

[Buttons3345]

149. Well it shows he has manners!

More than I can say for his supporters!

[workinclasszero]

63. Why did Bernie apologize for the remark then?

He obviously disagrees with your statement.

[gabeana]

113. Because of people like you or if not you, other Hillary supporters

who will on purpose blow this out of proportion, anything to not talk about issues and make it personal
because your likes want to portray any criticism of Hillary as sexist plays into the victim card goes,

[NorthCarolina]

125. I'm sure you'll have a new outrage tomorrow. Afterall, how hard is it to twist a couple words

to create your new meme du jour.

You folks should head away from DU for a bit and see how these types of silly manufactured memes are playing on sites like twitter. Seems to me your attacks hurt your own candidate far more than they do the candidate you are hoping to attack.

[nichomachus]

108. Almost -- but not quite -- as bad as superpredators. nt

[beam me up scottie]

11. How is that worse than if someone was actually called a whore?

The two terms have completely different meanings, corporate whore isn't a sexist slur.

[Dem2]

14. The statement is beyond defense.

I initially saw out-of-context quotes and actually felt he didn't mean to draw a link to Hillary in the statement.

I was wrong and am pissed off that I was misled into thinking that he didn't mean to imply that Hillary is a "corporate Democratic WHORE".

It's indefensible. Hillary is a woman and you can NEVER link those words. Ever.

Stop.

Quit while you're ahead.

Even Bernie has said:

Dr. Song's comment was inappropriate and insensitive. There's no room for language like that in our political discourse.

Listen to Bernie. Please.

[beam me up scottie]

20. Just knock it off, I won't be bullied or shamed for my opinion.

She wasn't called a gender based slur, go paddle it somewhere else.

It wasn't the best choice of words but it's not the same as calling someone a whore.

[Dem2]

24. I can't stop you from being stubborn

But I can tell you that I think you're

1) wrong and

2) defending something that it is indefensible

[beam me up scottie]

27. And I can tell you that this is just the daily poutrage and it's absurd.

Tomorrow it will be another non-issue to distract people.

It's all rather boring and predictable at this point.

[Dem2]

29. Unfortunately, this one was real

I generally trash all the "poutrage of the day" posts, but this one was witnessed by my kid attending the rally and it left an impression that was disturbing to my kid.

I feel that an apology was necessary in this instance and both parties apologized, thus this was a real honest to goodness screw up on the part of said speaker. I'm ready to move on if you are.

[beam me up scottie]

33. Now it's about harming the children? Really?

[Dem2]

35. OK, now you've gone too far

Sad and pathetic. I suppose you feel like you've never lost an argument.

I can see why.

[beam me up scottie]

36. Once you reach for the "you're wrong because think of the children" argument you've already lost.

[Dem2]

38. Who do you think took that picture?

God damn it, you are not being a nice person.

[beam me up scottie]

40. You're missing the point, the appeal to emotion fallacy is an automatic fail.

Leave your kid out of it, they are irrelevant to whether or not I find the term corporate whore offensive.

[Dem2]

44. Disgusting

It was OFFENSIVE to my kid FFS.

My god.

I'm done with you.

Go ahead, get in your last word.

[beam me up scottie]

46. What's disgusting is your trying to make this about your kid.

It's really a lame attempt to shame me because I wasn't properly horrified by a term that's not the least bit offensive.

[Puglover]

129. Nice (as the kids say)

pwnage.

[beam me up scottie]

140. I really wanted to go further but I was too nice, I see others didn't hold back though.

[Kalidurga]

81. What the hell is your kid doing alone at a rally?

That's fucking insane. What kind of parent lets their kid roam around adults in NY where people fucking cuss all the fucking time?

[Dem2]

85. Lol

Very funny.

[Kalidurga]

90. You brought you child into this

I am assuming your child is old enough to go out alone, but fuck if I know.

[Dem2]

93. Washington Square is essentially NYU

Not sure if you know this.

[Kalidurga]

97. Yeah so

Either your child is old enough to go out alone or not. If your child is old enough to go out alone I guarantee you he has heard a lot of rough language especially if he is on a college campus. Fuck he has probably heard it from his professors.

[frylock]

133. Your kid is enrolled at NYU?

[brush]

80. You need to drop this. You're not coming off well. That comment is indefensible.

[beam me up scottie]

141. I'm not the one dragging kids into it because I'm losing the argument and trying to gin up outrage.

You need to drop it because I don't give a flying fuck about all of this manufactured drama.

I have no pearls to clutch or vapours to get.

[salinsky]

148. I know right? ...

... just how low can they go?

[rhetorical] - don't answer that.

[Silver_Witch]

59. Clutching pearls. Oh ny

You said God damn it!! Taking the good lords name in vain!!!! Oh the shame. The horror. Some one save me from the ugliness.



See how that works!

If you were at the rally and took the picture how could you have taken the statement out of context when you heard it with your own ears. Or am I missing something in your post?

Sorry your child was hurt. Perhaps you should not take a child to an adult event!

[Dem2]

64. They went on their own

Thanks for the 5-year old remarks, however.

Very mature.

[salinsky]

39. That ain't right .... nt

[beam me up scottie]

41. Logical fallacies never are.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

54. You want Sanders to apologize for something he never said because someone the comment was NOT

directed towards heard it?

Just how abstract is guilt suppose to become these days? Because if it is you owe me an apology for lots of things other people said to someone else.

[Dem2]

56. He already disavowed the statement

Dr. Song's comment was inappropriate and insensitive. There's no room for language like that in our political discourse.

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/720590717706506240

That was good enough for me, I'm moving on...

[Nuclear Unicorn]

58. But you brought your child into the discussion without any rationale for doing so.

That's the point I'm making.

[Dem2]

74. That made 2 of us that were disgusted

My kid is a big Bernie fan, it was offensive to them, I think it makes a difference as they were actually at the rally and took that photo, recollecting clearly the offensive remark. It matters to me and it should matter to you.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

79. Then why aren't you offended over all the objectionable things I've been witness to?

Answer -- because you can't be. It's absurd and untenable.

I'm not going to be upset because you say your children were upset.

[Dem2]

82. OK

Nice argument.



You've won.

[Buttons3345]

156. Good thing you aren't running for President!

Bernie apologized because he has manners. If someone supporting him becomes vulgar, then yes he has to say something. Someone who is out there trying to get supporters for their candidate should be sticking to the issues without name calling.

[sus453]

162. Then perhaps you can explain to your kids what

the term, "corporate whore" really means. It would be a good civics lesson. Also, what age were your kids attending that rally.

Also, this is the 21st century - the puritan fear of children hearing language they probably use anyway is outdated. That's not to say you should encourage the use of that language, but people do talk like that. And Hillary is indeed a corporate whore.

[workinclasszero]

71. Bernie has said:

Dr. Song's comment was inappropriate and insensitive. There's no room for language like that in our political discourse.


What part of this don't you understand?

But hey, double-down on this pathetic sexist statement by another clueless 1%er shill of Bernie if you must! I swear Sanders most fervent supporters are his worst enemies!

[beam me up scottie]

143. What part of I'm not outraged do you not understand? I can type it slower if it helps.

It's not sexist and it's not going to make me have a cow.

Was that clear enough?

[workinclasszero]

144. Sure, keep doing damage to Bernie

I won't stop you.

[beam me up scottie]

155. LMAO! Keep digging, this kabuki theater gets more outrageous every minute.

[Buttons3345]

151. Well your opinion of name calling is being a bully!

You need to grow up you bully!

What is a slur?

[beam me up scottie]

152. Not sure if new poster is being sarcastic or just not an it-getter...

[revbones]

66. Again, if the shoe fits...

Corporate whore:

One who has sold more than their labor to the corporation; one who has forsaken personal values and constitution for corporate $$; meaning of "whore" belittled when preceded by the word “corporate”; person who will sell their soul for $$.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=corporate+whore

Basically it does apply to Hillary and many Democrats as well as most if not all Republicans...

[salinsky]

76. The term was "corporate Democratic whores" ...

... and he referred to Hillary twice by name directly preceding vomiting it up.

The shoe fits you quite well ...

... and, the shoe is misogyny.

[revbones]

83. So punctuation has no meaning for you?

Whether you are willing to admit it, you know this is just more juvenile fake outrage a la Karl Rove style. You know he didn't call her a whore. You are intelligent enough to know that, as well as the difference between a "whore" and a "corporate whore".

But if you feel the need to continue the fake outrage, have at it.

[salinsky]

150. In the two sentences leading up to the vile slur ...

... he directly named Hillary twice.

Who the hell do you think he was talking about?

It's not nice to call a lady a "corporate Democratic whore".

Doesn't go over well in polite society.

[noiretextatique]

37. Up is down

I don't think an apology was required

[salinsky]

42. Of course not ...

... that's why Sanders supporters have made such a name for themselves.

[noiretextatique]

50. Oh spare me the sanctimonious bullshit

Take it up with Haitian garment workers.

[beam me up scottie]

43. I understand why Bernie felt he should, he is campaigning.

But as far as the rest of us, pffft.

It's just another way they're trying to claim moral superiority.

[Dragonfli]

48. The term has such a distinctive and well known meaning and used so often it is definable

and defensible. For those of you that rarely talk politics or are simply pretending to be too dumb to know the meaning of the word employed in political context, be assured it is very well known and defined especially by the politically literate.

[font size="4" color="blue"][center]corporate whore[/center][/font]


One who has sold more than their labor to the corporation; one who has forsaken personal values and constitution for corporate $$; meaning of "whore" belittled when preceded by the word “corporate”; person who will sell their soul for $$.
My efforts are not driven by my passion for work, but by my own gluttony, my addition to money. I have become what I once despised—forsaken myself, sacrificed my values at the corporate alter of greed. I am a corporate whore.

[salinsky]

62. First of all, the term he used was "corporate Democratic whores" ...

... and he twice referred to Hillary by name directly preceding the vile slur.

Despicable.

You shouldn't defend such crass behavior.

[Dragonfli]

75. Some corporate whores are Democrats, notable among them Are Bill and Hillary Clinton

I am sorry you are only just noticing this now.
Like Santa Clause not being real, finally learning that some of the corporate political whores are Democrats, and few have been paid so handsomely as Both William Jefferson AND Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Must be as disappointing a moment as the time I was 4 yrs old and caught my parents placing the gifts under the tree when I had expected a meet and great with the Grand Old Elf himself, it hurts, I understand.

[salinsky]

12. It was "corporate Democratic whores" ...

... and he named Hillary directly twice before vomiting the disgusting term.

Despicable.

[beam me up scottie]

15. And?

Most corporate whores are men, it's not a sexist slur.

[salinsky]

18. Keep rationalizing ...

... you're good at it.

And, the diminishment of the Sanders campaign accelerates.

[beam me up scottie]

25. Facts aren't rationalizing, get over it.

I'm sure there are plenty of other people who will share the poutrage and milk it for all it's worth.

[salinsky]

28. The fact is ...

... Dr. Song's comment was inappropriate.

Bernie has acknowledged that fact.

You should do the same for condoning and rationalizing it.

[beam me up scottie]

31. Nope, go peddle it somewhere else, I find corrupt politicians to be offensive.

Words used to describe them not so much.

[revbones]

68. Yeah cuz using a common term that means something other than what your'e outraged about

is much much worse than being on stage in a racist minstrel skit using "CP Time" - that your staff approved the script of...


Oh, the horrors!

[KittyWampus]

69. "here" is the virtual equivalent of the street. Not a political rally for POTUS

[beam me up scottie]

139. And? I'm still not outraged, in fact I'm quite bored by the show. Try harder.

[Demsrule86]

99. Not corporate whore but Democratic whore.

Terrible and Bernie was there and said nothing.

[IamMab]

4. I see comments like "inappropriate" and "insensitive" but no apology. Where is that at?

[peace13]

120. What I learned in kindergarten ....

....Mrs. smith that boy called me stupid. Mrs. Smith's reply...Well are you...Me...no! Mrs.Smith...then what are you worried about. Hmmmmm....If Hill isn't a corporate $hore then, no worries. I think the speaker should have had more guidance but that ship is sailed. Bernie apologized, said it was wrong so now we can all put our big boy pants on and get on with it. Can we please talk about the issues now?

[Bonobo]

6. Bernie is running for office. No downside to apologizing.

I am not and I think "whore" is a fittingly pejorative description of a disgustingly corrupt subsection of politicians.

[northernsouthern]

8. Well check my history and have a slice of humble pie on me.

I said it was like the CPT, it was inappropriate and poorly thought out, but neither sexist or racist in intent. I said that from the start and I even said Shillary was a term that bagged me more. Corporate whore is a term that is very extreme and carries baggage from the use of the word in it, but has a unisex meaning. I think it is too crass a word for use in a public venue, and a very stupid choice for a word used against a group that is struggling to be the first female president (so they do face real sexism) and they also play incredibly dirty so there is no way they would not grab on any loaded word.Did you come out against all of the horrible moves Hillary has done so far on first seeing them?

[salinsky]

30. Good on you ...

... I wish more of your fellow travelers felt the same way.

[frylock]

134. fellow travelers?

"Fellow traveller" is a term, often pejorative, for a person who sympathizes with the beliefs of an organization or cooperates in its activities without maintaining formal membership in that particular group. The term was first used in the early Soviet Union to characterize writers and artists sympathetic to the goals of the Russian Revolution who declined to join the Communist Party.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellow_traveller

[Fumesucker]

13. Saying the words "c*******e w***e" is a far, far worse offense than being one

One is offensive name calling and the other is just bidness.

[rurallib]

117. concise and well stated

[frylock]

135. The CW word.

[Triana]

17. I never defended the comment.

And though I understand Song's message, it was a very poor choice of words.

"candidates beholden to corporations instead of us" might have been a better choice.

[salinsky]

21. Thank you ...

... but unfortunately, it would appear that you are an outlier.

[Dem2]

26. Agreed

He made a mistake. I don't know the guy but we'll assume his apology is sincere.

[NurseJackie]

19. Good. He's the gentleman I hoped he was.

[disillusioned73]

32. Nope..

the shoe still fits, we just have the advantage of not running for president and being able to speak bluntly with truth.. faux outrage is still faux outrage..

[salinsky]

34. Misogyny is very ugly ...

... but because you are not running for president it is your prerogative to be very ugly.

Carry on.

The diminishment of the Sanders campaign continues ...

[Dragonfli]

49. The term has such a distinctive and well known meaning and used so often it is definable

and defensible. For those of you that rarely talk politics or are simply pretending to be too dumb to know the meaning of the word employed in political context, be assured it is very well known and defined especially by the politically literate.

[font size="5" color="blue"][center]corporate whore[/center][/font]


One who has sold more than their labor to the corporation; one who has forsaken personal values and constitution for corporate $$; meaning of "whore" belittled when preceded by the word “corporate”; person who will sell their soul for $$.
My efforts are not driven by my passion for work, but by my own gluttony, my addition to money. I have become what I once despised—forsaken myself, I am a corporate whore.

Some of them are Republicans, some of them are Democrats, but few have so openly sacrificed their values at the corporate alter of greed. As Bill and Hilary Clinton (within our party at least)

[DisgustipatedinCA]

51. No. I retract nothing, and I have nothing to apologize for.

FUCK your guilt by association. I still don't like corporo-political whores.

[salinsky]

98. You would probably feel right at home at a Trump rally ... nt

[DisgustipatedinCA]

102. And you'd feel right at home as a character in 1984. FUCK THAT NOISE.

Stay the fuck under that spreading chestnut tree.

[ibegurpard]

103. I doubt it

But I bet an authoritarian like you would...

[Armstead]

52. Nope. Not Me.

I will agree that it is not appropriate in a political campaign, especially if used directly against a female candidate.

But I am not going to change my view that it is perfectly acceptable and well describes those who sell their political position (or media influence) inappropriately to the highest bidder.

[salinsky]

114. ....

"I will agree that it is not appropriate in a political campaign, especially if used directly against a female candidate."

That's big of you.

[noiretextatique]

53. All of you hypocrites would use that term for an R

And you know it.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

57. Not "would," "have."

[salinsky]

67. Why would we use the term "corporate Democratic whores" to refer to Rs ...

... that doesn't even make any sense.

Try again.

[brush]

87. You inadvertantly just nailed the point — it was inappropriate for dems to call other dems that

Have at it with repugs.

[bkkyosemite]

55. OMG! Are you serious. Some guy makes a comment and you want us to do 15 Hail Mary's and

10 our Fathers....unbelievable. Wasn't it a wonderful diverse and YUUUUUUGGGGEEE rally!

[peace13]

60. If candidates are responsible for every rude comment a supporter utters...

...Hill's got a lot of I'm sorry's right on this forum. She better get busy. People are responsible for the words that come out of their mouths and no one else.

Way to turn an apology into a dagger. Twist away.

[salinsky]

106. "People are responsible for the words that come out of their mouths and no one else."

He was invited by the campaign to speak as a surrogate of and advocate for the candidate.

Bernie was correct to apologize.

It's unfortunate that his followers lack his sound judgement.

[peace13]

118. Not sure the term follower applies to me.

I'm ok with the apology. Why do people use the term follower instead of supporter. Blind follower, as in cult perchance? Just so you know, it's not nice!

[salinsky]

119. Oops ...

... I use the terms "follower" and "supporter" interchangeably.

Maybe, I should rethink that.

Mea Culpa ...

[peace13]

121. : )

[workinclasszero]

61. I also would like to hear the defense of the whore remark from all the Bernie supporters on DU

that thought it was a great thing.

Bernie Sanders himself just said it was wrong so go ahead and tell me where Bernie is wrong on this BS supporters.....

[salinsky]

72. Oh, they're making their case right here ...

... and they think referring to Hillary as a "corporate Democratic whore" is not only defensible ...

... they think it's commendable!

They are who we thought they were.

And, they sure as hell aren't Democrats.

[workinclasszero]

84. "And, they sure as hell aren't Democrats."

Agreed.

Apparently Sanders followers think any democrat that isn't a Bernie acolyte is a "democratic corporate whore"!

[DemocracyDirect]

77. He insulted actual prostitutes.

Corporate sellouts put us all in danger.

[ibegurpard]

78. nope

He doesn't need to apologize for someone else's language nor will I apologize for using the word in a generic sense to apply to politicians who trade access and votes for money and campaign support. No one called Hillary a whore.

[salinsky]

96. He was invited to speak by the Sanders campaign ...

... as a surrogate of and advocate for the candidate.

Bernie was right to apologize.

Too bad his supporters lack his good judgement.

[ibegurpard]

107. Yeah too bad

I'll continue to take responsibility for my own actions. Corporate whores need to be purged from the Democratic Party.

[salinsky]

110. I feel a purge coming ...

... but, you might not like it.

[ibegurpard]

112. From DU?

Unimportant.
On the ground is where it's happening.

[Turin_C3PO]

146. DU doesn't purge if that what you mean.

Once a nominee is chosen, people aren't allowed to advocate or state they're voting for another candidate, but they also don't have to affirm a vote for the nominee. Many progressives just stay silent on the subject until after the election. No big deal. I'm voting for whoever is the nominee but I would never support a "purge".

[katsy]

86. "Corporate whore" Not just "whore"

Totally appropriate remark and accurate description. No apology from me. Fuck no. Most politicians are corporate whores because of the costs involved in reelection. They are corporate whites, shills.

The remark was appropriate. I hope it causes people to really think about the shithole this country could become because of the fucked up agendas forced upon us by these corporate monkeys.... whores. It's what they are.

[salinsky]

92. Why do you keep leaving out a word and ignoring the context? ...

The term was "corporate Democratic whores", and he referred to Hillary directly by name twice before dropping it.

Let's just keep in mind that this slur was used in an interparty political primary.

It is entirely inappropriate and completely unjustifiable.

Thank goodness Bernie has the good judgement and tact that his supporters clearly lack.

[katsy]

115. Ok corporate democratic whore

Same thing as corporate republican whore.

Not sexist. FACIST

They are fucking fascists. M/F/B/W/H/A/other/LGBTQ/athiest/thiest/hypocrit
/human/indy/gop/democrat

However they identify they are fucking corporate whores.

Nothing has infuriated me more than HRC milking this as a gender issue. It is not. It is not now. It was not when the term corporate whore was coined. It is accurate when calling out corporate democratic whores like DWS and when calling out corporate republican whores (like all the GOP).

[Kalidurga]

88. You are under the mistaken impression that Bernie is our boss or our leader.

He is with us not ahead of us with us. He speaks for us, but not instead of us. We aren't going to agree with everything he says and he is going to have his own opinions as well. So fuck this shit. He isn't responsible for everything that comes out of someone else's mouth. If he wants to apologize fine. He can apologize for Hiroshima and Nagasaki too I mean fuck it if we want to keep apologizing for shit we didn't do we might as well apologize for shit that matters where real people got killed and injured for life and lost family. As far as I know in this incident no one was fucking hurt. Except maybe the feelings of some Corporate Whore and her apologists.

[CoffeeCat]

89. There are two universes in this primary

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One universe is online, where people bicker, fight, ruminate and hand wring over every damn thing that happens.

The other universe is real life--where the bigger picture is.

Bernie apologized in the bigger-picture universe. I think it's cool that he did it. This will be settled science in the newspapers and on television--and in the general sense. It's not that big of a deal.

But don't tell that to the faux outragemongers on the Interwebs! They'll continue to foam at the mouth and long after the majority has moved on. Frankly--I've heard the term "corporate whore" repeatedly from DUers of all stripes. It's manufactured controversy, because right now--there is no controversy. Remember, the Clinton campaign is in the "Destroy" phase of their oh-so brilliant, "Destroy, Defeat and Unify" grand plan.

People on DU and on other sites who continue with this faux outrage are doing this in a little online corner of the world. It doesn't matter.

[Bonobo]

116. +1,000 nt

[islandmkl]

91. Bernie just calming the PR...maybe some of those of you who are 'outraged' could explain this:

was it the words 'Democratic corporate whores' that are so offensive to you....

or the context/definition of what that phrase embodies?

it doesn't seem that it could possibly be both...

and if you think it was directed solely at Hillary, here again...words or definition?

if it's just the words, suggest something else that will suffice to portray the definition...

[Autumn]

94. I do not apologize for truth. You can get my apology as soon as hell freezes over and

pigs sprout wings. This is a non-issue, pumped up by Hillary supporters .

[riderinthestorm]

95. Keep it up! Your faux outrage ensures a permanent link to Hillary and "corporate whore"

In every Google search.

[salinsky]

100. Sorry, but this one has legs ...

... calling her "unqualified" was bad enough.

"Corporate democratic whore" should seal the deal.

[riderinthestorm]

101. In your dreams nt

[frylock]

136. The outrage over "unqualified" is even more ridiculous.

You'd think he called her the c-word from the reaction of some people.

[MrWendel]

153. Would it...

have mattered? Is there really a line at this point that people would not vigorously defend?

[frylock]

154. smdh

[MrWendel]

157. Tis...

the season.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

104. I don't think an apology was necessary.

[vintx]

105. I'd never defend it. I'm glad he apologized.

Misogyny is one form of bigotry that most are still blind to. Most of us have a lot of growing to do on this issue.

[salinsky]

111. Good on you ...

... thanks for stepping up.

[Mike Nelson]

109. I'd like know...

...does he disagree with the language or the label?

[sadoldgirl]

122. First of all there is nothing I have to apologize for,

since I called it unacceptable yesterday.

However, has HRC ever apologized for applauding
the remark by M. Albright? I don't think so.

Threatening women, who may not vote for HRC,
with going to Hell is certainly a bigger insult to me.

[salinsky]

124. First of all, thanks for acknowledging that it was unacceptable ...

... but, wow ...

... I don't see any equivalency with Albright's remark at all.

At worst, Albright's remark was dated and off key in our current political discourse.

But, it came from an old school feminist who has been through the gauntlet and fought the battles.

The "corporate Democratic whores" remark was just disgusting.

No comparison.

[artislife]

123. ** off with your fake outrage

I want an apology from H for sending fracking around the globe, children dying because of bombs or regime change antics that she did to be tough as nails.

But that isn't gonna happen, isn't it?

[Puglover]

130. You know what would be

even more pathetic. If the "fake outrage" isn't fake.

Lordie.

[artislife]

131. Spare me, I will get you a fainting couch

and let you have a space for your melodrama.

[Puglover]

132. LOL

I was kidding. God I hope you know that.

[artislife]

159. Now I do...now I see your avatar...

Sometimes, I see red!

[frylock]

137. Probably runs about 50/50.

Someone upthread seems pretty upset that their college-aged kid was exposed to such foul language.

[salinsky]

126. I guess Bernie Bros ...

... aren't big on contrition.

[frylock]

138. This is so rad.

Bernie Bros lol!

[Politicalboi]

127. Nothing wrong was said

It was the truth. People who take money for favors are political corporate whores. It's your problem you associated it with Hillary. Nobody called her a whore. You guys just clutch your pearls and faint.

[salinsky]

128. The term was "corporate Democratic whores" ...

... and he had twice mentioned Hillary by name directly preceding spewing it.

No matter how you want to spin it, it can't be unsaid.

[JackRiddler]

142. Most of the politicians in this country are corporate whores.

I wouldn't have said it in a speech, but it's exactly correct and unobjectionable usage. It describes what they do.

But you did manage to make me waste my time, Mr. Not Actually Alinsky But Thinks He's Learned a Lesson About Word-Coding.

[salinsky]

145. You're welcome ...

... and you're correct.

"Corporate Democratic whores" is not very tactful.

And, when the two sentences preceding the term referred to Hillary directly by name, not very smart nor judicious.

[JackRiddler]

158. Also completely irrelevant to the universe.

I'd rather say something injudicious than pursue pro-Wall Street policies in exchange for legal bribes dressed up as speech fees.

[sus453]

160. Bernie was right to disavow the "corporate whore" remark, but

if the shoe fits . . .

Bernie as a candidate can't use such language, but face it, that's what she is, and we all know it.

[Goblinmonger]

161. Locking

A forum for general discussion of the Democratic presidential primaries. Disruptive meta-discussion is forbidden.