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[southerncrone]

1. Sure sounds like it to me.

Never forget: She was a Republican before she claimed to be a Democrat.

[msongs]

3. ya berner's been a democrat for what 6 months orless? nt

[southerncrone]

4. Yet his actions & stances have been extremely Democratic for over 50 yrs. Actions speak louder

than words.

[blue neen]

9. Then why wasn't he a Democrat?

It's a fair enough question. Actions such as not financially supporting down ticket candidates do indeed speak louder than words.

[southerncrone]

11. You'd have to ask him that question. But there are more important ways to support ideas &

candidates than w/money. THIS is one of the main problems in our politics today--too much emphasis on MONEY! Money over people. It really is a sad state of affairs. If you haven't noticed, this is his view of the situation.

The 2-party system creates the polarization of our populous, perhaps that is why he didn't join. I don't know, & would never presume to speak for him on that question. He has supported Democratic candidates over the years. Doubt he supported any Republicans, for instance, Goldwater. Why did Hillary support him? It's a fair question.

[blue neen]

16. There is too much money in politics.

Bernie, however, will have no chance to get any of his ideas and ambitions on board without Democrats in the Senate and House. And, to get Democrats in the Senate and House will require spending money.

If it is his "view of the situation", then why does Bernie spend so much time telling us all how much money he has raised? Record numbers! So, why not help get other Democrat elected as well. The Koch Brothers will be spending millions upon millions against our Democratic candidates. Bernie either wants to help get a lot of other Democrats elected or he doesn't.

I don't know much about 1964 politics. Apparently, neither Bernie or Hillary were Democrats at that time. In fact, in 1976 Bernie ran against the Democratic candidate for Senate, Pat Leahy.

Really sleepy, so if you reply, I'm not ignoring you---just going to bed.

[AgerolanAmerican]

26. Because he saw the truth before the rest of us did

that the Democratic Party has been infested with corporate Horton Hears a Who

[.99center]

29. Lieberman, Iraq war resolution, NAFTA

Patriot act, welfare reform, wall street bail out, LGBT rights , Civil Rights Act. He's always been to the left of the Democratic Party and on the right side of progress. How about those with a D in front of their name voting against LGBT rights, should he support them financially? Maybe he should've joined the party while it was divided on Civil Rights, while he was being arrested for fighting for Civil Rights. Luckily for the party Bernie hasn't dug into the fact that he's been fighting the right wing from both parties all of his life.

[IdaBriggs]

32. Principles over party. I'm good with it.

Nothing personal, but I claimed independent status for decades. I still voted Dem, but publicly identifying as a "Clinton Democrat" was cringe worthy embarrassing back in the 90s because of their constant "gate" crap. Obama finally brought me over formally but it isn't just his policies - I am not embarrassed by him and know NOTHING about his penis.

If Hillary gets the nod, I will switch back to Independent.

[pdsimdars]

38. He has done traditional fundraising for the Democrats every year

But this year he wants to focus on his election since they are giving him no support AND he has started to support specific candidates this year rather than give to the party. And do you blame him? All they have done to him this year is try to bury him.
Learn something before simply parroting talking points.

[merrily]

7. Intentionally missing the point of the OP again?

[delrem]

34. These guys no longer admit the existence of 3rd-way/DLC ideology,

that it has been a factor esp. since Bill Clinton's term as POTUS, which established and entrenched 3rd-way/DLC ideology in all the highest places.

They don't admit to history, which is that 3rd-way/DLC operatives intended to completely reorient the Dem party, to make it identical to Republican orthodoxy w.r.t. economic and foreign policy, while retaining a nominal credibility as defenders of "liberal" social justice concerns, esp. on abortion and a woman's right to choose. They don't admit to the historical record of Bill and Hillary Clinton's political work, they don't take responsibility for the consequences, esp. for all the dead and imprisoned, the impoverished and disenfranchised.

That just isn't their concern.

[Arneoker]

28. What were you when you were 16?

A devotee of an ideology that required you to say even dumber things?

[FarPoint]

39. Give that one up...

Bernie has only claimed to be a Democratic for 10 months ...Elizabeth Warren was a Republican in the 90's.. I think Hillary was still a Virgin when she explored the republican party before identifying herself as a Democrat.

[jfern]

2. She's Joe Liberman with better PR

[NanceGreggs]

5. Given that between the two ...

... only one of them IS a Democrat, that sort of leaves Bernie out of the running for that role, doesn't it?

[timmymoff]

40. She's a democrat?

I am sure I witnessed someone to the right of Rockefeller republicans last night.

[apcalc]

6. Are you kidding me?

She was a Republican in early college, about 45 years ago, realized that party didn't
"Fit" and became a Democrat.

And Sanders? Please.... He is not now and never was a Democrat. He loathes the Democratic party.....

" It would be hypoctitical of me to run as a Democrat because of the things I have said about that party" Bernie Sanders, Socialist Scholars Conference, New York City, April 1990

[merrily]

8. Fact free hit on the only people two seeking the Democratic nomination for POTUS?

If Sanders loathes the Democratic Party, why has he been caucusing with Democrats since he first got to the House? Why has he campaigned for Democrats--and they for him? Why did the head of the DSCC and the head of the DNC call him an asset and refused to support any Democrat against him? Why has he been the nominee of the the Vermont Democratic Party more than once?

He did not belong to the Party until recently because he did not want to be beholden to its big donors and he is not a fan of Third Way. Neither am I. That doesn't mean I am not a Democrat.

Who, in your book, is a Democrat holding office today?

[djean111]

31. He always caucuses with the Dems.

This is a tired old meme, fails miserably - and ya know what? if Hillary personifies the Democratic Party - Third Way, hawk - then I am thinking the Democratic party may have oozed to far to the right for me. A Democratic candidate who is FOR war, the TPP, fracking, Wall Street dominance, cluster bombs - this is not what MY vision of the Democratic Party is or was. Ugh. Shameful, really.

[ReRe]

10. Si, Senor n/t

[N92LB]

12. Wheres the third party

Bernie is an independent by nature. Unfortunately the ruling class have successfully hobbled any significant political action let alone presidential campaign that is not supported by the two party system. That said Hillary's rhetoric and her campaign has greatly resembled some the most disgusting aspects of republicans and neo-conservative politics at large.

[amborin]

13. she has voted with Republicans on many issues that most Dems opposed

[LetThemEatCake]

14. Republican

[Katashi_itto]

15. Republican

[highprincipleswork]

17. Sounds like it to me.

[Raine]

18. Republican nt

[Lone_Wolf]

19. Outside of the issues of abortion and women's rights...

Is there any questions she's a Republican? She's all for Big Business, anti-labor, for military interventions, in fossil fuels back pocket, police militarization and for the prison industry, and so on.

[jfern]

20. Yeah, those are the only issues she's not terrible on

And she has mentioned she'd be open to more abortion restrictions, called it the "unborn child" and said anti abortion people can be feminists, so she's not perfect there either.

[Scuba]

30. Except for her being OK with limitations on abortion and paying her female staff less than males.

[Sky Masterson]

21. Depends on who she is talking to

.

[RiverLover]

22. Yes. Clinton =

Pro-free trade, Pro-War for Profit, Pro-BigOil as shown while SoS.

Pro-BigFinance, as shown by....who pays million$ for speeches on nothingness to a person who wants to regulate them or tax them?

Could go on, but meh, those four are enough. DINO = republican

[bvf]

23. It's clear that, to too many people who should know better,

the capital D is all that matters. Thinking (lack of it, really) like this is what has enabled the party to become pulled so far to the right that Reagan would now be right at home in it.

The ignorant simply look for the shiny sticker to tell them who to vote for. It beats thinking, and if this is how a nation's citizenry is inclined to choose its leaders, it gets what it deserves: More war dead, more income inequality, a crumbling national infrastructure, an increasingly privately operated prison system, jammed with weed smokers and obscenely disproportionate numbers of minorities, etc., etc.

See that "D"? That means it's OK.

The Republican establishment would welcome a Clinton presidency with open arms. Believe it.

[Zira]

24. Republican

[B Calm]

25. Seeing how she was the president of her chapter of Young Republicans in college. . .

[HooptieWagon]

27. She hemmed and hawed about protecting SocSec.

Must be a Republican.

[RiverLover]

33. The Big Banks aren't paying her Big Buck$ for nothing.

Getting their hands on Social Security is the mother lode. They want privatization bad.

[HooptieWagon]

36. Yep, big banks want to loot SS funds.

[Broward]

35. She's a 1980's Republican, a right-winger for sure.

[pdsimdars]

37. People should be judged by what they DO as opposed to what they say.