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ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:47 AM Apr 2016

Wolf Blitzer was the loser last night, he could not/would not control the debate.

Do we really need a button to cut the mics? That would be rude.

How many times did Hillary talk over her time? How many times did she cut into, interrupt Bernie on his time? How many times did the moderators tell her her time was up and to stop, and she did not?
How many times did Bernie have to wave at them, to hold her accountable for not following the rules, again, cutting into his time.

When Bernie had enough, he kept on with his speaking while she began to talk over him, and kept talking. Then Wolfy had to do something, cuz you could not hear two people at once. So when they STOPPED ALL conversation to get the debate back on track....they asked BERNIE to please continue, and for Hillary to allow him to answer.

Hillary was absolutely the rudest she could have been, participating in a contest. She.....was absolutely horrible last night. Fucking awful.

Just my two cents...but all the video shows it, and the spin isn't fixing her image from last night. Internals are bad again this morning, before Bernie spoke at the Vatican. Hillary is a really bad sport, and doesn't follow the rules. But I don't fault her, Wolf Blitzer had a job to do, and he is the one that failed. Did he allow her to continue to break timing rules on purpose? Or is he just that big of a failure?

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Wolf Blitzer was the loser last night, he could not/would not control the debate. (Original Post) ViseGrip Apr 2016 OP
Kick for embarrassment.... ViseGrip Apr 2016 #1
Yes but there are too many debates. It is insane that we have had 9 of them yeoman6987 Apr 2016 #33
Blitzer is a loser every night. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #2
Exactly PJMcK Apr 2016 #6
I know, but he did not enforce the rules, and when Bernie decided to keep ViseGrip Apr 2016 #8
Sanders would not and could not answer what has she done for the banks... that's way more uponit7771 Apr 2016 #3
How about if I answer? The bankruptcy bill?????????????????????? ViseGrip Apr 2016 #5
Nope, not at all ...Clinton explained why she changed her vote and it was practical and it never uponit7771 Apr 2016 #7
she voted for it in 2001...did not become law..she was not there in 2005 angstlessk Apr 2016 #15
There's no proof she would've voted for it in 2005 other than hearsay and the reason Sanders can't.. uponit7771 Apr 2016 #17
It was basically the same bill. I don't think she had angstlessk Apr 2016 #19
No it wasn't, not at all... the rest is speculation uponit7771 Apr 2016 #24
I must concede to you on that point...it seems the alimony/child support angstlessk Apr 2016 #25
:-) uponit7771 Apr 2016 #26
Yep he missed on that one. That was really a softball that should have been a home run. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #11
Clinton never voted for that bill and it was hearsay on her support... that's why he can't uponit7771 Apr 2016 #14
I don't know what else the moderators can do when she just keeps talking over them BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #4
They don't need to do anything, her behavior is there for all to see! ViseGrip Apr 2016 #9
I think her behavior bordered on unhinged notadmblnd Apr 2016 #29
I agree. However, I will give the moderators this as a first. Kittycat Apr 2016 #27
Agreed, they did a much better job of pushing for answers to their questions BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #31
She was once again... imari362 Apr 2016 #10
Nobody in the corporate media is going to cut off Her Majesty. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #12
Indeed, and the mic power has been discussed because it continues. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #13
Hillary's behavior makes it hard for other women running for office. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #16
He woke up a loser today as well. It's just what he is and does. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #18
Then Wolfie should be moderating debates. Hillary rolled right over him. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #21
I don't think he should be moderating them. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #22
suspect that was the cnn game plan oldandhappy Apr 2016 #20
I give kudos to CNN - I think that was the best debate yet. So many topics were jillan Apr 2016 #23
She was an embarassment notadmblnd Apr 2016 #28
She has the Dune defensive shield though. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #30
Yeah, well Wolf corporate media Dem2 Apr 2016 #32
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
33. Yes but there are too many debates. It is insane that we have had 9 of them
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 02:00 PM
Apr 2016

I would say 6 to many since they all say the same thing debate after debate. 3 total in a primary.

PJMcK

(22,032 posts)
6. Exactly
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:56 AM
Apr 2016

Wolf Blitzer is a self-important, pompous prig. He regularly over-hypes his stories and continually fails to ask important follow-up questions in interviews. He's one the the main reason I stopped watching CNN years ago.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
8. I know, but he did not enforce the rules, and when Bernie decided to keep
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:01 PM
Apr 2016

speaking when it was his turn, and neither could be heard, they had to stop it. Then of course, they said Bernie please finish.

Very bad optics for Hillary last night. Again, it's the arrogance that makes her miss the point of what's she's trying to do.

She is losing....

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
3. Sanders would not and could not answer what has she done for the banks... that's way more
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:51 AM
Apr 2016

... important than any control of two people fighting for the presidency

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
5. How about if I answer? The bankruptcy bill??????????????????????
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:53 AM
Apr 2016

ya think? Just cuz he didn't say it....that's your gal.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
7. Nope, not at all ...Clinton explained why she changed her vote and it was practical and it never
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:59 AM
Apr 2016

... became law either.

The rest of it is hearsay from the NYT

Not even close

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
15. she voted for it in 2001...did not become law..she was not there in 2005
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:08 PM
Apr 2016

to vote cause Bill had heart surgery, and it became law...she'd have voted for that too.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
17. There's no proof she would've voted for it in 2005 other than hearsay and the reason Sanders can't..
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:11 PM
Apr 2016

... bring it up is cause its from Warren and she's not taking sides.

If that's all Sanders has to go on is hearsay then that's weak.

On the other hand Sanders did vote to give gun corps immunity after the NRA helped him with his earlier campaigns.

That's a fact he doesn't dispute

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
19. It was basically the same bill. I don't think she had
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:21 PM
Apr 2016

a come to Jesus moment..it was just the timing of Bill's heart surgery that saved he on this issue..

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
25. I must concede to you on that point...it seems the alimony/child support
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 01:02 PM
Apr 2016

part was included in the 2001 bill, but not in the 2005 bill..hey, when I'm wrong (about .00003%) I admit it!

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
11. Yep he missed on that one. That was really a softball that should have been a home run.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:04 PM
Apr 2016

He could have just recited Elizabeth Warren's comment on the Bankruptcy bill. There are a number of other examples as well, but that one is a slam dunk.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
14. Clinton never voted for that bill and it was hearsay on her support... that's why he can't
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:07 PM
Apr 2016

... bring it up.

Sanders has nothing but rhetoric on that account

On the other hand he voted to give gun corps immunity after the NRA helped him with his earlier campaigns..

That even he isn't going to argue with

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
4. I don't know what else the moderators can do when she just keeps talking over them
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:52 AM
Apr 2016

I don't think much of Wolf, and I think even less of Dana Bash, but they did everything short of telling Hillary to shut up and she just kept talking over them for as long as she wanted. After awhile, Bernie decided he had to start doing it too to get a reasonable share of the debate time.

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
27. I agree. However, I will give the moderators this as a first.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 01:05 PM
Apr 2016

I was almost stunned. I only say almost, because they didn't do it for every question (probably because they got worn out, LOL), but they did make them (Hillary far more than Bernie) go back and answer the questions. And they were pretty forceful on it.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
31. Agreed, they did a much better job of pushing for answers to their questions
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 01:16 PM
Apr 2016

And they even let Bernie push Hillary to answer the question on whether or not she favored raising the cap on income that is subject to Social Security taxes. She never gave a direct answer, but they went after multiple times and she made herself look ridiculous with her determination to avoid giving a straight answer.

imari362

(311 posts)
10. She was once again...
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:02 PM
Apr 2016

...being extremely rude, she agrees to the rules of the debates then doesn't even attempt to follow them.

The mods should ask respectfully twice, then cut off the mic of the offender..which is her 99.99% of the time.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
12. Nobody in the corporate media is going to cut off Her Majesty.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:05 PM
Apr 2016

They're not going to risk their seven figure paychecks.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
13. Indeed, and the mic power has been discussed because it continues.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:06 PM
Apr 2016

But....they tried it again. Hillary is Hillary, and even the media never learns!

That's why this IS on Wolfie, the loser.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
16. Hillary's behavior makes it hard for other women running for office.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:10 PM
Apr 2016

I'm hearing this around the races......

jillan

(39,451 posts)
23. I give kudos to CNN - I think that was the best debate yet. So many topics were
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:27 PM
Apr 2016

brought up that never were before.

They actually talked about climate change!

Hillary and Bernie were just battling it out - as they should when the stakes are so high.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
28. She was an embarassment
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 01:07 PM
Apr 2016

I don't know if she thinks being rude and pushy makes her look like a strong leader but I don't think it worked for her. The more she did it, the more I disliked her.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
30. She has the Dune defensive shield though.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 01:15 PM
Apr 2016

But instead of the Holtzman field it uses sexism, so like the Dune one any direct attack does not work, he has to be passive because a single finger-wag could be explosive.

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