What is Hillary doing today? Why are Clinton supporters so obsessed with the Vatican?

[pantsonfire]

BREAKING NEWS: Sanders not meeting with pope.....like really? What is up?

[DFab420]

1. They just want to point out that the celebrity that HRC is flying to California to meet

will actually be there and will actually be giving her money.

As opposed to silly ol' Bernie who is, as you know, just talking about something very close to his heart in a meeting of world leaders like a fool

[Mike__M]

10. Close to her heart

is what she'll be doing too. So there!

[MADem]

2. Are you a Clinton supporter? Is that why you started a thread on the topic?

Cough.

[pantsonfire]

15. No and no. She is flying to CA to attend a fundraiser. n/t

[MADem]

17. She's in Harlem right now talking about housing. Turn on your TV. nt

[pantsonfire]

24. I don't have a TV, thanks for answering my question finally after just asking me two questions...

....as your response.

[MADem]

28. No need to get shirty. I advised you as I found out, myself.

Sorry it wasn't quick enough for your majesty.


Sheesh--no good deed goes unpunished around here.

[artyteacher]

3. how are we obsessed?

The Bernie Supporters are the 9new posting like crazy like it means anything. Personally, I'm just laughing about it.

[nichomachus]

30. Right

And if it were Hillary who had been invited, the Hillary supporters would be running around shrieking that she had just been canonized by the pope.

[artyteacher]

36. iffy wiffy

Some might. But I'm not Catholic. I'm Wiccan. This Pope is above average but I don't like patriarchal sky God's telling me idiotic BS.

[hobbit709]

4. Jealousy. She'd never be invited to a conference on economic inequality.

[QC]

6. That's not fair!

They might well decide to invite her as a case study.

[quantass]

52. ^^ That's funny. Good point

[Mike__M]

11. That's what the Wall Street speeches were

from a different perspective.

[MADem]

18. Well, technically, neither was Bernie invited to this one--his buddy Jeffrey Sachs arm-twisted to

get him in.

[hobbit709]

20. And the Pope turned down the Clinton Foundation invite.

[MADem]

23. So?

I'll bet that's not the first or last invitation he'll decline in his life, either.

[RufusTFirefly]

38. Bingo!

Bernie's participation in the conference makes him look good and her look bad.

That difficult for Clinton supporters to abide.

[pantsonfire]

48. She's touring housing projects in Harlem, hah, she looks great! n/t

[BernieforPres2016]

5. Bill Press had a good take on it

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/15/politics/bernie-sanders-pope-francis-vatican-visit/index.html

When asked if it was a smart move to take 36 hours to travel out of the country ahead of one of the most important primary elections in the campaign cycle, Weaver took aim at Sanders' opponent, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

"Hillary Clinton has been out of the state on a number of occasions for high-dollar fundraisers," he said. "We think this is a more important reason to leave the campaign trail for the day."

Bill Press, a Sanders support and CNN political commentator, put it more colorfully: "He may be leaving the state to see the Pope Francis. She is leaving the state to see the Pope George Clooney in California ... So both of them are leaving the state.

He also pointed out that Sanders will get "a lot of media attention" on the trip. "I think it's good for him. I think it's a great platform."

[DebbieCDC]

7. "Pope George Clooney"

Not to detract from Mr. Clooney as a talented actor, writer, director, etc., but really -- on the international stage who rates more coverage, him or the Pope?

[BernieforPres2016]

12. In our celebrity obsessed culture?

George Clooney and his wife versus the Pope is probably a close call. This Pope is something of a rock star, so he probably gets a slight edge.

[MADem]

25. Clooney, hands down. nt

[MADem]

19. It's more than 36 hours. He's staying over at Casa Santa Marta--maybe he's hoping he'll

get a dorm room near the Pope! LOL!

[pantsonfire]

26. Case in point......n/t

[MADem]

33. Do you even know what Casa Santa Marta is? nt

[pantsonfire]

35. Your obsession with his vatican trip.....

The Casa Santa Maria is a residence in Rome, Italy that serves English-speaking priests who are sent by their dioceses for graduate level studies in the city.

Perhaps he's resting....is he staying the night?

[MADem]

68. See? You don't know what it is.

Yes, it IS a dormitory....

It's the dormitory where the POPE lives.

He doesn't live in the Papal apartments. He lives in the dorm. It doesn't just serve "English speaking priests" -- it serves any and all religious visitors to Rome, to include lay leaders, nuns, priests, etc. Anyone who has business at the Vatican and CAN'T AFFORD the high prices at the Intercontinental or one of those jazzy hotels on the Via Veneto.

Someone must have made a nice donation to the church to get a spot in there!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domus_Sanctae_Marthae



The Pope's digs!

[pantsonfire]

72. So what your saying is he might meet the pope in private? n/t

[Skwmom]

8. She's busy w/the latest dog and pony show to fool voters (with the help of a Corp Media Puppet)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_and_pony_show

"Dog and pony show" is a colloquial term which has come to mean a highly promoted, often over-staged performance, presentation, or event designed to sway or convince opinion for political, or less often, commercial ends. Typically, the term is used in a pejorative sense to connote disdain, jocular lack of appreciation, or distrust of the message being presented or the efforts undertaken to present it

[apcalc]

9. Who cares about this ?

[pantsonfire]

49. You do? Why comment? n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

13. Two words: Sour Grapes

[Vinca]

14. She's headed off to the $300,000+ a couple fundraiser with the Clooneys.

Quite a contrast in priorities.

[MADem]

21. She's not touring Rome--she just finished giving a speech in Harlem about housing.

Quite a contrast in priorities!!

LOL!

[pantsonfire]

27. Where's she headed next? n/t

[MADem]

37. Hong Kong! I hope she rakes in a fortune! nt

[pantsonfire]

40. If Hong Kong is where the Clooney's live then yeah! n/t

[MADem]

44. No--LA is TOMORROW. Not today. nt

[pantsonfire]

57. The Clooney attended fundraiser is tonight in SF....

For two seats at the head table with Clinton, George Clooney and his wife, attorney Amal Clooney, at an April 15 fundraiser, a couple must contribute or raise a whopping $353,400 — a huge ticket price for a hard-dollar fundraiser.

Then tomorrow in LA (not sure if she's going) there's another fundraiser of the same type.

[Vinca]

54. The Harlem speech was almost beyond belief.

This woman has zero connection to real people living in the real world . . . she could buy the damn housing project she spoke at. For the life of me I don't understand how you people are sucked in by the overwhelming phoniness. I'm almost embarrassed for you.

[JoePhilly]

16. Why are Bernie supporters so obsessed with Hillary.

You guys do almost nothing but talk about her.

I sometimes forget that you guys have a candidate at all.

[pantsonfire]

29. Flip it upside down and reverse it....

[JoePhilly]

31. Anti-Hillary OPs by Bernie folks out number all other OPs by about 5 to 1.

And by a higher rate after Bernie loses a debate.

[pantsonfire]

32. That's natural given the number of Hillary group members vs. Sanders, its 400 to 1000. n/t

[JoePhilly]

43. I'm going to bet that will change after Hillary wins the primary.

Lots of our "new friends" will be heading home.

[MADem]

39. Ain't that the truth.

They just can't help themselves!

[pantsonfire]

42. You are worth 5 Clinton supporters, your tenaciousness is admirable. n/t

[MADem]

50. What tenaciousness? It's not hard to read the paper and watch the news.

There's also this thing called Google. A lot of people here on DU like to ask snarky little questions in an attempt to play "Gotcha" when, if they really just wanted information, they'd go to that Google-y place and get all the info they needed!



I have been a member here since this site opened. I've seen a lot of people come and go. I can pretty much tell who's for real, and who isn't. And, surprise, surprise, there are a lot of people who don't give a shit about DU as a community. I'm not one of them.

[pantsonfire]

62. I'm just pointing out posts from pro-Clinton supports like Brooklynite about the Vatican....

....among others. I mostly post substantive threads like this one.....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511744067

[JoePhilly]

46. You'd think they'd talk more about their "awesome movement."

[MADem]

58. As soon as they find it, I'm guessing they will.

Thus far, though, it's been a series of missteps. What should have been a great rally in Washington Park turned into a sexist name calling hot mess. It's like they can't EVER be positive about their own candidate. They only get a charge when they're throwing names like the "W" word around.

[jillan]

22. What's Hillary doing today? Hiring a criminal attorney - that's what!

http://lawnewz.com/uncategorized/the-longtime-clinton-attorney-now-representing-hillary-in-fbis-criminal-probe/

[grasswire]

41. THAT was very interesting

....except the part where the writer used the word "unpalatable" to describe the Clinton defense that oral sex is not sexual relations.

[brooklynite]

34. Actually, she's vising housing projects in Harlem...

...I understand there may be voters involved.

[pantsonfire]

45. Then onto......n/t

[brooklynite]

47. California! Where there are also voters.

[pantsonfire]

51. And a fundraiser...she's not coming out here for CA, why would she?

The NY primary is in 4 days and she's flying to CA. I'd want to win NY by the largest margin possible if I were her.

[brooklynite]

60. Bernie Sanders is raising funds for exactly -3- House candidates...

...where's the money for State Parties, Senate Races, Governorships, State Legislatures going to come from?

[pantsonfire]

61. He did that because the party turned their backs on them....n/t

[brooklynite]

67. So this is a one man operation?

The Party was mean to him so he's only in this for himself?

[pantsonfire]

70. It's at least a 7 million person operation....n/t

[brooklynite]

71. So you and your Revolution are going to get all Democrats elected without a Party apparatus?

[Politicalboi]

53. She's probably collecting money

Warring around NY. Did I spell that right? Oh well.

[berniepdx420]

55. Because their candidate has very few principles and switches positions regularly... she now supports

$15 minimum wage...

They have to grab on to any perceived attack angle.. because hillary is far from being a Liberal or Progressive.. She is a republican on most issues particularly on war and peace

[Smarmie Doofus]

56. They are seeking forgiveness and absolution?

>>>Why are Clinton supporters so obsessed with the Vatican?>>>>

They're heading to the right place. I wouldn't give it to them.

[HassleCat]

59. Credibility

Bernie's visit to the Vatican gives him some credibility. The Clinton campaign stresses the outsider aspect of Bernie's candidacy, the fact he has not many endorsements, is not connected with respected and established people, and so on. Any association with anyone with any clout undermines the "Bernie is nobody" meme.

[riderinthestorm]

63. Clooney's soiree starts at 7 pm. With a 6 hour flight and time to dress for partying, she's left NY

[pantsonfire]

64. Looking at your sig. line...

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false and by the rulers as useful". Attributed to Seneca the Younger, Roman Philosopher.

Are you conflicted by BS trip to the Vatican?

[riderinthestorm]

65. Absolutely not. Do you believe the Catholic Church is really about religion? nt

[pantsonfire]

66. Yes? I don't think the academic conference he spoke at was religion.

If they're not about religion what are they about? What is religion?

[riderinthestorm]

69. Power. The history of the Catholic Church proves that overwhelmingly

The "immorality " of our global financial inequalities transcends any religion and resides firmly in the universal Golden Rule (do unto others...)