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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTWO PRESIDENT CLINTON-dramas in the white house AT THE SAME TIME?
seriously, no joke: what percentage of americans would vote to put TWO PRESIDENT CLINTON-dramas back in the white house AT THE SAME TIME?
i happily voted TWICE for bill clinton, but these are NOT THE SAME CLINTONS!
every other day theres another clinton-drama -- and even if some of the dramas are blown out of proportion by the media, or republicans, or disaffected democrats, et. al., still, the clintons have a shadowy, almost creepy "plausible-denial" mentality which makes them seem more shady than they probably are (and maybe theyre not so bad as human beings, and they also have done many laudable things); but they have a "cover-up" reflex which has corroded any political credibility.
i couldnt care less about the monica lewinsky scandal, and frankly, after all bill's other sex scandals, e.g., gennifer flowers, paula jones, et. al. -- i really dont care about peoples personal lives if it's among consenting adults, and doesnt impair their productivity, or hurt anyone.
but instead of just "coming clean" -- the clintons have become so afraid of being accused of getting caught with their hands in political and personal cookie-jars -- that they delay, divide, and deny, in the hopes of wearing out their perpetual opposition.
it's not that theyre bad people, but they use tactics that make them *seem* guilty about just about everything they touch -- using abstruse rationalizations, rather than simple mea culpas.
the clintons have given much good to american democracy, but each day, things like hillary's high-dollar corporate speech cover-up, (among other self-inflicted dramas) makes the clintons seem more and more psycho-pathologically nixonian.
i believe this country is toxified by the clintons daily dramas and baggage, not because theyve done anything so bad -- but because the system itself has warped and corroded their moral, political, economic psyches and judgment.
over decades,the pragmatism of the clintons has slowly encassed them in a global media bubble of constant suspicion, justified or not
i just believe that two president clinton-dramas back in the white house, would make the current gridlock seem like playtime
the clintons are the symptoms, NOT THE CAUSE -- but nearly everyone agrees that democracy is slowly grinding to a halt
the choice is yours, america
win or lose -- bernie's america -- of economic and cultural equality, rules!
"the ground of liberty is gained by inches"
-- thomas jefferson
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TWO PRESIDENT CLINTON-dramas in the white house AT THE SAME TIME? (Original Post)
4ricksren
Apr 2016
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Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)1. From No Drama Obama to All Drama, All the Time Clintons. No Thanks. nt
Zira
(1,054 posts)2. I voted for them twice too. When they were small time criminals and not world level, like today.
They had me fooled. I didn't realize Hillary was a republican until she became a senator, and it was before Hillary turned into Kissinger.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)3. the CFEE is not at the same level as the BFEE
but they are working hard to get there
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)4. ::::SHUDDER::::