2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClinton Is Winning The States That Look Like The Democratic Party
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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-is-winning-the-states-that-look-like-the-democratic-party/In fact, these states are among the most demographically representative of the diverse Obama coalition that Clinton or Sanders will have to rely on in November.
Although it will be a couple of decades before the electorate as a whole is majority-minority, the Democratic vote is already getting there. In 2012, only 55 percent of President Obamas voters were white, according to the national exit poll. Our demographic projections of this Novembers electorate, which account for population growth since 2012, calculate that the white share of the Democratic vote will tick down another percentage point, to 54 percent. The rest of the Democratic vote will be black (24 percent), Hispanic (15 percent), or belong to Asian or other races (7 percent), according to our projections
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The most representative state by this measure is New Jersey. We expect its primary electorate to be about 57 percent white, 26 percent black, 11 percent Hispanic and 6 percent Asian or other, quite close to the national Democratic electorate. New Jersey wont vote until June 7, although Clinton was well ahead when the last poll was released there in February.
After New Jersey comes Illinois, which Clinton won narrowly and then Florida, where Clinton won going away. Then theres New York, which votes Tuesday, and where Clinton is 15 percentage points ahead in our polling average. Virginia, another Southern state, ranks as the next most representative; Clinton won it easily. Then theres Nevada, another Clinton state, before we go back to the South to North Carolina, also won by Clinton. The next group of four states (Maryland, Tennessee, Arkansas and Michigan) are roughly tied and include some further representation for the South, along with, finally, one state (Michigan) that Sanders won.
In other words, Clinton has won or is favored to win almost every state where the turnout demographics strongly resemble those of Democrats as a whole. This shouldnt be surprising Clinton is winning nationally by about 14 percentage points in the popular vote. So if youre in a state thats well-representative of Democrats national demographics, you might expect her to win it by a solid margin too.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)that is all that matters if you want to keep a republican out of our house
IamMab
(1,359 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)What could be more American?
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)op....ya know, if only he had said yes. Sooo American.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Disrespectful to both church and state.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)I know Bernie disagrees with me, as he was very pleased about the popes message
on climate change and greed.
Yet I have my doubts you'd be expressing those same concerns had Clinton
received a yes from the pope she and Bill were hoping for.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)AIPAC speech? I believe I compared her to #43
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)IamMab
(1,359 posts)That's more than any other socialist in history has managed to get their hands on at someone else's expense, that's for sure.
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)It's twoo! It's twoo!
Sid
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Do you really believe that Hillary will win the Southern States (her "firewall"
in the General Election?
She is going to win Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina?...
the ones YOU say "look like" the Democratic Party???!!!!
mythology
(9,527 posts)Oklahoma, Nebraska, Alaska, or Idaho?
But yes the primaries in Alabama, Mississippi etc look a lot more like the larger Democratic party than any of the red states won by Sanders.
Laugh all you want, but you didn't actually do anything to dispute the point.
Gothmog
(179,869 posts)frustrated_lefty
(2,774 posts)Looks more like the confederacy to me.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)PS: referring to black voters in the south as the confederacy is a tone deaf white person thing
frustrated_lefty
(2,774 posts)I spent the first 25-ish years of my life in New Orleans with stints in Tuscaloosa, AL and Chapel Hill, NC, another 12-ish years up and down the west cost, and the past 10 years in Philly, Buffalo, and Pittsburgh. I can tell you Birmingham is NOTHING like Cambridge. Chapel Hill is nothing like Philly, and New Orleans is different but strangely similar to San Francisco.
I know the characteristics I associate with the confederate states. The early states that Hillary won fit that description to a letter. Of course, this NY win proves me wrong or at least off-base.
I can live with being off-base and try to learn from it. Stating that Clinton wins all of the states that look like America, though, is a stretch and parochial.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)uponit7771
(93,532 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)Every single solitary analysis -- especially international ones -- have talked about his inability to convince Democratic voters.
People keep saying he's having trouble with black voters, Hispanic voters, gay voters, women etc. when the real truth is that he is having trouble with most segments of the Dem base.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan or Washington.
I must have been asleep, I guess.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Which was the article's point.
That said, you don't necessarily need to win the entire coalition over, if the parts you do win over vote enough.
Cha
(319,081 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Which states look like that?
pansypoo53219
(23,034 posts)reaganism & tinkle down.