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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 06:45 PM Apr 2016

Clinton Is Winning The States That Look Like The Democratic Party

Last edited Fri Apr 15, 2016, 08:36 PM - Edit history (1)

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-is-winning-the-states-that-look-like-the-democratic-party/

In addition to being important to the Democratic Party’s electoral present and future, Florida, Virginia, North Carolina and Texas are quite diverse. They’re diverse ideologically — Miami and Austin aren’t exactly “the conservative part of the country” — and they’re diverse racially. They contain not only a substantial number of African-Americans but also Hispanics and, increasingly, Asian-American voters.

In fact, these states are among the most demographically representative of the diverse Obama coalition that Clinton or Sanders will have to rely on in November.

Although it will be a couple of decades before the electorate as a whole is majority-minority, the Democratic vote is already getting there. In 2012, only 55 percent of President Obama’s voters were white, according to the national exit poll. Our demographic projections of this November’s electorate, which account for population growth since 2012, calculate that the white share of the Democratic vote will tick down another percentage point, to 54 percent. The rest of the Democratic vote will be black (24 percent), Hispanic (15 percent), or belong to Asian or other races (7 percent), according to our projections

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The most representative state by this measure is New Jersey. We expect its primary electorate to be about 57 percent white, 26 percent black, 11 percent Hispanic and 6 percent Asian or other, quite close to the national Democratic electorate. New Jersey won’t vote until June 7, although Clinton was well ahead when the last poll was released there in February.

After New Jersey comes Illinois, which Clinton won narrowly — and then Florida, where Clinton won going away. Then there’s New York, which votes Tuesday, and where Clinton is 15 percentage points ahead in our polling average. Virginia, another Southern state, ranks as the next most representative; Clinton won it easily. Then there’s Nevada, another Clinton state, before we go back to the South to North Carolina, also won by Clinton. The next group of four states (Maryland, Tennessee, Arkansas and Michigan) are roughly tied and include some further representation for the South, along with, finally, one state (Michigan) that Sanders won.

In other words, Clinton has won or is favored to win almost every state where the turnout demographics strongly resemble those of Democrats as a whole. This shouldn’t be surprising — Clinton is winning nationally by about 14 percentage points in the popular vote. So if you’re in a state that’s well-representative of Democrats’ national demographics, you might expect her to win it by a solid margin too.
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Clinton Is Winning The States That Look Like The Democratic Party (Original Post) geek tragedy Apr 2016 OP
who can win against any of the republicans in the swing states SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #1
But there was a BIRD, GT. A BIRD! Don't you get it??? nt IamMab Apr 2016 #2
And he has a picture of the pope on his website. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #3
Your candidate courted the Pope for the Clinton Foundation...she would have had that photo Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #4
it's inappropriate to try to involve the Pope in our elections geek tragedy Apr 2016 #7
I agree, technically speaking..I said as much when he was here before our congress. Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #8
I would. Remember my reaction to Clinton's geek tragedy Apr 2016 #9
Fair enough, bud. Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #10
That has to be one of the most ratf***iest moves I've seen yet this campaign. Stealing the Pope? IamMab Apr 2016 #5
The Pope called him Brother... SidDithers Apr 2016 #17
Really? bvar22 Apr 2016 #6
Is Sanders going to win mythology Apr 2016 #16
Nate is correct in his analysis Gothmog Apr 2016 #11
Don't see it. frustrated_lefty Apr 2016 #12
There is much you do not comprehend nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #13
Looking in the mirror again, I see. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #14
Sorry, your dog whistle won't hunt anymore. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #15
Well.... frustrated_lefty Apr 2016 #27
Yeah, states with mostly black progressive voters are "confederate" sounds like dog whistles uponit7771 Apr 2016 #19
yeap uponit7771 Apr 2016 #18
I K&R'd the other one and happy to K&R this one too Number23 Apr 2016 #20
Oh, I did not know that she won sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #21
You must not have read any of the article or excerpt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #22
She did, and they don't demographically look like the Democratic party as a whole Recursion Apr 2016 #25
That makes perfect sense! Cha Apr 2016 #23
Payday loans? Arresting medical marijuana patients? Selling out to those who fucked us? DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #24
I DO NOT CARE. ALL that matters to me is a LANDSLIDE + keep on the path to kill pansypoo53219 Apr 2016 #26
 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
1. who can win against any of the republicans in the swing states
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 06:51 PM
Apr 2016

that is all that matters if you want to keep a republican out of our house

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
4. Your candidate courted the Pope for the Clinton Foundation...she would have had that photo
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 06:56 PM
Apr 2016

op....ya know, if only he had said yes. Sooo American.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
7. it's inappropriate to try to involve the Pope in our elections
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 07:05 PM
Apr 2016

Disrespectful to both church and state.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
8. I agree, technically speaking..I said as much when he was here before our congress.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 07:28 PM
Apr 2016

I know Bernie disagrees with me, as he was very pleased about the popes message
on climate change and greed.

Yet I have my doubts you'd be expressing those same concerns had Clinton
received a yes from the pope she and Bill were hoping for.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. I would. Remember my reaction to Clinton's
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 07:31 PM
Apr 2016

AIPAC speech? I believe I compared her to #43

 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
5. That has to be one of the most ratf***iest moves I've seen yet this campaign. Stealing the Pope?
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 06:57 PM
Apr 2016

That's more than any other socialist in history has managed to get their hands on at someone else's expense, that's for sure.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
6. Really?
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 07:03 PM
Apr 2016

Do you really believe that Hillary will win the Southern States (her "firewall&quot in the General Election?
She is going to win Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina?...
the ones YOU say "look like" the Democratic Party???!!!!

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
16. Is Sanders going to win
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 08:43 PM
Apr 2016

Oklahoma, Nebraska, Alaska, or Idaho?

But yes the primaries in Alabama, Mississippi etc look a lot more like the larger Democratic party than any of the red states won by Sanders.

Laugh all you want, but you didn't actually do anything to dispute the point.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. Sorry, your dog whistle won't hunt anymore.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 08:32 PM
Apr 2016

PS: referring to black voters in the south as the confederacy is a tone deaf white person thing

frustrated_lefty

(2,774 posts)
27. Well....
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:55 AM
Apr 2016

I spent the first 25-ish years of my life in New Orleans with stints in Tuscaloosa, AL and Chapel Hill, NC, another 12-ish years up and down the west cost, and the past 10 years in Philly, Buffalo, and Pittsburgh. I can tell you Birmingham is NOTHING like Cambridge. Chapel Hill is nothing like Philly, and New Orleans is different but strangely similar to San Francisco.

I know the characteristics I associate with the confederate states. The early states that Hillary won fit that description to a letter. Of course, this NY win proves me wrong or at least off-base.

I can live with being off-base and try to learn from it. Stating that Clinton wins all of the states that look like America, though, is a stretch and parochial.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
19. Yeah, states with mostly black progressive voters are "confederate" sounds like dog whistles
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:02 PM
Apr 2016

Number23

(24,544 posts)
20. I K&R'd the other one and happy to K&R this one too
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:37 PM
Apr 2016

Every single solitary analysis -- especially international ones -- have talked about his inability to convince Democratic voters.

People keep saying he's having trouble with black voters, Hispanic voters, gay voters, women etc. when the real truth is that he is having trouble with most segments of the Dem base.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
21. Oh, I did not know that she won
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:42 PM
Apr 2016

Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan or Washington.

I must have been asleep, I guess.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
25. She did, and they don't demographically look like the Democratic party as a whole
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 04:18 AM
Apr 2016

Which was the article's point.

That said, you don't necessarily need to win the entire coalition over, if the parts you do win over vote enough.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
24. Payday loans? Arresting medical marijuana patients? Selling out to those who fucked us?
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:57 AM
Apr 2016

Which states look like that?

pansypoo53219

(23,034 posts)
26. I DO NOT CARE. ALL that matters to me is a LANDSLIDE + keep on the path to kill
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 04:55 AM
Apr 2016

reaganism & tinkle down.

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