# 2016 Postmortem

Related: About this forum# Have y'all seen this Bernie handshake?!??!!

Can this dude get any cooler?

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#### Biaviians

(167 posts)Thank you for sharing!

#### FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)thanks for replying. Bernie creates LOVE.

#### roguevalley

(40,656 posts)Response to roguevalley (Reply #36)

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#### Avalux

(35,015 posts)It's not a big thing really, but I love it.

#### FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)I was wondering the other night how it must affect a person to see his message resonating with these throngs of citizens every night.

#### Avalux

(35,015 posts)I saw a photo of him and Jane in the car driving the Vatican. Bernie had the biggest, genuine grin on his face. Again, not a big thing, but he rings true in everything he does and I connect with that.

#### pat_k

(9,313 posts)#### demwing

(16,916 posts)#### NWCorona

(8,541 posts)#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### JI7

(89,099 posts)#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)... biggest dog whistle of the campaign

#### JI7

(89,099 posts)This thread wasn't about anything other than the handshake.

#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### roguevalley

(40,656 posts)#### jack_krass

(1,009 posts)an ounce of malice in him, and though what he said didnt sound good in retrospect, I truly dont think he meant any harm with his comments.

True dog whistles are designed to appeal to the absolute worst instinct in the audience. Some examples:

-Hillary talking about hard working southern whites while campaigningm

-Hillary's campaign spreading rumors about Obamas religion and heritage.

-Hillary talking about super predators

#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)... and the rest of statement makes me lean the other way.

Hillary is winning states that look like America in demographics while Sanders not so much and then he minimizes red states HRC one that are mostly the US demographic.

Nah, not giving the guy the benefit of the doubt any longer

#### roguevalley

(40,656 posts)#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### hellofromreddit

(1,182 posts)#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### MaeScott

(878 posts)....."biggest fairy tale I've ever seen"

People in glass houses and all that.

Which Hillary?

#### morningfog

(18,115 posts)#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### morningfog

(18,115 posts)since your racist apologia for Bill Clinton's racist rant.

#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### morningfog

(18,115 posts)#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### morningfog

(18,115 posts)#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### morningfog

(18,115 posts)Calling an African American woman a girl, telling her black lives matter in Africa, telling her she is supporting and defending murderers, defending Hillary calling KIDS super predators and more.

#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### morningfog

(18,115 posts)And your approval of his racist rant paired with your compulsion to repeatedly post an off topic quote from Bernie.

#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### morningfog

(18,115 posts)It's obvious.

#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)It'a racist term, and everyone knows it

#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)saying it. He agreed with them, that's when i woke up to the fact that i had married a bigot. Divorced him a few years later.

#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)... way everyone else was using it at the time didn't mean blacks exclusively

#### Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)Blaming all the crime on 'urban' populations, another of those code words from back then

#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)I did tell you to Google it.

#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)#### hellofromreddit

(1,182 posts)Racist language (and all bigoted language) depends on being imprecise--oversimplifying a group and giving room to let people bleed in their own biases. Bigoted language is meant to drive at people's emotions, not their reasoning--clear definitions would interfere with that. Nobody's bigoted against people exactly 6'1" tall or who have exactly $8 in their wallets--they're bigoted against whole groups they can paint with broad brushes. Lazy Mexicans, violent blacks, racist whites, conniving Jews, etc.

Pretending some racist bullshit line is somehow acceptable because the speaker only means some of "them" is clearly dishonest.

Case in point: "They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

#### vintx

(1,748 posts)#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)... last year stump for him in front of mostly white IA and NH does not

#### beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)Why waste my time? No matter what the subject you always post about ghettos, Cornell West and the 'podium bird' even though they have nothing to do with the topic at hand. It's like watching some sort of bizarre performance art.

#### vintx

(1,748 posts)Black Americans to this day doesn't matter to you,

But guilt by association dues?

Hillary supporters are a trip.

#### Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)#### beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)#### Desert805

(392 posts)but how is what he said untrue and/or offensive?

#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)... aren't poor and even most poor blacks don't live in "ghettos" (context of conversation)

#### Desert805

(392 posts)I don't want to assume you're being dishonest, so I'll just say (again) you're wrong.

#### nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)And this is a JEWISH GETTHO in the Untied States. (In Chicago by the way)

You keep posting this and trying to gaslight me on Jewish history and the United States, ok.

Of course I saw already above that you do not care about any of this for real. So there are words crossing my mind...

#### uponit7771

(90,152 posts)... based on their religion.

That's the Sanders camp excuse to make themselves feel good about his ignorant statement

#### FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)FEEL THE BERN

#### CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)I like the expression on the guy's face, and the little nod.

#### FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)#### vintx

(1,748 posts)Bernie is real.

#### AzDar

(14,023 posts)#### beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)And watching the peanut gallery get their panties in a wad over a handshake in this thread is just the icing on the cake.

#### choie

(4,097 posts)#### senz

(11,945 posts)#### pa28

(6,145 posts)#### FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)#### Tarc

(10,469 posts)The cultural appropriation of a handshake isn't going to win anyone over, kids.