I'm confused...so did Bernie ambush the Pope or not?

[hill2016]

so many contradictory accounts...

[KittyWampus]

1. Yes, by the Pope's own account. Sanders pulls a Kim Davis and didn't even get a photo.

That is so sad on so many levels.

[NWCorona]

7. The mind is a terrible thing to waste

[Warren Stupidity]

12. And a Butt is a terrible thing to Hurt.

[NWCorona]

19. It's a good thing team Hillary has a cream for that.

[QC]

24. Better order a pallet or two!

[beam me up scottie]

28. LMAO!

[Kelvin Mace]

15. Do you have a source for this claim?

[itsrobert]

2. The Pope says yes

CAMP PINOCCHIO says no.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

16. ^^^another verifiable lie right here^^^ This poster will NEVER back his words; they're not true.

[Bjorn Against]

21. Really? The Pope said Bernie ambushed him?

Please provide a link to a statement from the Pope saying Bernie ambushed him. If you can not provide a link I think we will know who the real Pinocchio is.

[DemocracyDirect]

3. An American meets the Pope while going to speak at a conference in the Vatican.

Oh the horror!

[KittyWampus]

4. And exaggerates it after lying about the whole incident on national tv...

The launches ads trying to make it look like he was endorsed by the Pope.

[DemocracyDirect]

13. Well I know that you are lying.

But that's okay because Hillary.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

20. Another Clinton partisan. Another lie. ^^^ I encourage everyone to check this poster's claims.

This poster has made many untrue accusations that she can in no way back up. How do I know? I've challenged her multiple times; she cannot answer. She cannot iterate the lies she keeps accusing Sanders of telling. Do you respect people who lie to you repeatedly? For my part, I do not.

[revbones]

5. If you think it wasn't planned, you're crazy.

That said, given your username and time joined, you probably have the inside scoop from the Hillary campaign. Is that the case? Just asking.

Anyway:

[jmg257]

6. Hold your breath and say it again..."he won't go, he won't speak, he won't meet with the Pope."

"he won't meet with the Pope.""he won't meet with the Pope.""he won't meet with the Pope."

Maybe tap your heels together 3 times too!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. And the butthurt continues.

[Warren Stupidity]

9. politifact scores your op "partially correct"

The op states "I'm confused" and we find the op entirely correct on that point. However the op goes on to imply that Sanders 'ambushed' the pope, and we find that a ridiculous pile of horseshit.

All in all, given that the op has admitted that the op is generally confused about things, we score this "partially correct".

[Barack_America]

40. .

:ROFL:

[Sky Masterson]

10. No

Next fake outrage please.

[Bjorn Against]

11. Yes, I heard he hid under the table and jumped out and shouted "Boo!" when the Pope walked by

[DisgustipatedinCA]

14. No. There are true, easily verifiable accounts. And there are liars. They're easily distinguished.

We pummeled the hell out of the liars, and we'll do it again and again. You're a propagandist and a very dishonest person. One has only to look at any 3 of your posts--ALL of them show you to be a smear merchant.

[IamMab]

17. Yes. See the quotes from this article.

http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2016/04/16/pope-francis-calls-sanders-greeting-only-common-courtesy/

“This morning as I was leaving, Senator Sanders was there,” Francis said. “He knew I was coming out at that time, and he had the kindness to greet me.”

“When I came down, he introduced himself, I greeted him with a handshake, and nothing more,” the pope added. “It’s common courtesy, this is called common courtesy.

“If someone thinks that greeting someone is getting involved in politics,” he said, “I recommend that they find a psychiatrist.”

[Bjorn Against]

25. So greeting somebody is the same as ambushing them now?

[IamMab]

26. The Pope greeted Sanders, because Sanders ambushed the Pope. As Francis says, "common courtesy."

Just because Sanders has no manners doesn't mean the Pope doesn't.

[Bjorn Against]

27. So when the Pope says "he had the kindness to greet me" you interpret that as a lack of manners?

The Pope specifically said Bernie greeted him out of kindness, for you to interpret that as the Pope saying he was ambushed shows you have zero credibility.

[DrDan]

31. greeted him with a handshake - nothing more - no verbal greeting

[NurseJackie]

18. I think he was waiting for him. I think the Pontiff knew he was in the foyer.

... and as a brief and passing courtesy, he shook his hand, exchanged pleasantries (Hello. Nice to meet you. Hello, nice to meet you too) and the Pontiff with his Papal Entourage headed out the door.

Any other description you hear, or any other words that cleverly imply or suggest that Bernie had a "private audience" with the Pope are questionable.

As more information begins to trickle out, it seems to me that Bernie's summit with the Pope is not as significant has his campaign is making it out to be. (What is significant, however is that the initial reports and descriptions were lacking in the details and accuracy and context that we're not beginning to see. Why is that?)

Go, Hillary! We love you!

Note to Jury: The above statements represent my opinion. No DU rules or terms of service have been violated. It is not against the rules to have an opinion that differs from the Alerter.

[DrDan]

30. may be less than that - Bernie says he greeted the Pope, however, when

being asked about the Pope's reply, he said "You'll have to ask the Pope."

[whatchamacallit]

22. You ambushed yourself

[cherokeeprogressive]

23. Nnnnnnnnnnope.

Next idiotic question?

[DrDan]

29. yep - if the Pope is to be believed - and I think he is

[Bjorn Against]

32. So you agree with the Pope that Bernie greeted him out of kindness

Because that is what the Pope said, the Pope never claimed he was ambushed. Good to know that you agree with the Pope that Bernie acted in kindness.

[DrDan]

33. "kindness"? don't remember that behavior being mentioned with respect to this meeting

but in general, I have no doubt Bernie would be "kind" toward the Pope.

[Bjorn Against]

34. You must not have read the Pope's words then

http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2016/04/16/pope-francis-calls-sanders-greeting-only-common-courtesy/

“This morning as I was leaving, Senator Sanders was there,” Francis said. “He knew I was coming out at that time, and he had the kindness to greet me.”

The Pope specifically said that Bernie greeted him with kindness, there are some liars on this site however that are trying to claim that the Pope said Bernie ambushed him when he said no such thing.

[DrDan]

35. I had not seen that particular quote - I remember "courtesy"

and as I said, I am sure Bernie's greeting was courteous/kind.

I am not sure how they happened to run into each other - not sure any facts have come out about the specifics there.

[Bjorn Against]

36. Who cares what the specifics are? It was clearly not an ambush.

The Pope has very high security around him, his security was clearly OK with Bernie being there to greet him because if they were not they would have never allowed him to be there.

[DrDan]

37. I'll wait for a reliable source, if you don't mind

[Bjorn Against]

39. You mean one of those "reliable sources" that told you that Bernie invited himself to the Vatican?

[DrDan]

41. it certainly won't be any of those who claimed Bernie was the headliner or the ones

that claimed the Pope personally sent the invitation.

We all know how "reliable" they are.

[IdaBriggs]

38. Planned meet-and-greet.

You can pretty much ignore any venom from Brock's newbie shills.

Well, at least Hillary is helping the economy by employing them.

[pat_k]

42. DNTEC!

Do
Not
Feed
The
Energy
Creatures!!

[Hepstyle73]

43. Confused?

I suspect that you will go with whatever you want to believe? Isn't that how this works? It used to be, "The answer lies somewhere in the middle." Now it's, "Whatever suits my confirmation bias"

[reddread]

44. needs help calculating the bonus

[hobbit709]

45. Fill out this form in triplicate and send it in. You're about 3 days behind in outrage.