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Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:05 PM

Honestly, how likely is it just anybody can loiter in the papal residence and "ambush" the pope?

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Reply Honestly, how likely is it just anybody can loiter in the papal residence and "ambush" the pope? (Original post)
whatchamacallit Apr 2016 OP
litlbilly Apr 2016 #1
virtualobserver Apr 2016 #3
beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #2
HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #4
Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #5
whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #7
Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #8
whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #9
Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #13
fried eggs Apr 2016 #18
Agschmid Apr 2016 #6
DrDan Apr 2016 #37
DrDan Apr 2016 #10
whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #11
DrDan Apr 2016 #12
whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #14
DrDan Apr 2016 #16
Hiraeth Apr 2016 #15
fried eggs Apr 2016 #17
whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #20
fried eggs Apr 2016 #22
karynnj Apr 2016 #30
uponit7771 Apr 2016 #24
Avalux Apr 2016 #21
fried eggs Apr 2016 #23
Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #31
Avalux Apr 2016 #32
uponit7771 Apr 2016 #25
panader0 Apr 2016 #28
Matt_R Apr 2016 #35
Fawke Em Apr 2016 #19
Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #27
HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #29
Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #26
Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #33
Downwinder Apr 2016 #34
pdsimdars Apr 2016 #36
Marrah_G Apr 2016 #38

Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:06 PM

1. I love the words they come up with, They must get their talking points from Frank Luntz:)

 

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:08 PM

3. nah, it is from his cousin, David Brock.

 

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:06 PM

2. Let them fantacize, it helps heal the butthurt.


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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:09 PM

4. They're delusional.

 

This is very entertaining.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:12 PM

5. The Pope was obviously gracious enough

to accomodate the "drive by."

This was a craven move on the part of the campaign to save face for this whopper:

"You're meeting with the Pope?"

"Yup." On his way out the door at 4am...

C'mon folks, it is what it is.

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Response to Bobbie Jo (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:16 PM

7. The pope, as one of the most protected humans on the planet, would not have to meet Bernie

if he was not amenable. Give up the unhingery.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #7)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:18 PM

8. That's what I said, read again

"The Pope was obviously gracious enough to accomodate the drive by."

What's your point?

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Response to Bobbie Jo (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:22 PM

9. Drive by is a stupid characterization

Most people don't make a conscious choice to participate in a "drive by". Sorry for your butthurt.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #9)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:27 PM

13. The Pope is a gracious person

"Common courtesy." No surprises there.

Yup.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #9)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:41 PM

18. “This morning as I was leaving, Senator Sanders was there,” Francis said. “He knew I was coming out"

Setting aside the creep factor, why did Sanders run to the US media and say he had a "meeting" with the pope. How is that not a flat out lie?

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:13 PM

6. Pope doesn't live in the residence...

But either way Sanders didn't do that...

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #6)

Sun Apr 17, 2016, 05:56 PM

37. I think he might

". . . helped facilitate an audience for Sanders with the Pope at the Casa Santa Marta, the Vatican guesthouse where Francis keeps his residence."

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/bernie-sanders-meets-pope

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:23 PM

10. how likely is it that the Pope seeks a meeting with someone and then does not share a single word

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Response to DrDan (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:25 PM

11. Formality or not, the pope did it of his own accord

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #11)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:26 PM

12. okee dokee then - he just wanted to physically be in his presence

got it

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Response to DrDan (Reply #12)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:28 PM

14. My understanding is Sanders went to participate in the conference and was hoping to meet the pope

He did both.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #14)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:30 PM

16. that we agree on

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:30 PM

15. not.fucking.likely.

buncha fucking bananas around here.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:38 PM

17. Here's how it happened:

On the Vermont senator, Francis said he greeted Sanders on Saturday morning as he was leaving the Santa Marta, the hotel within Vatican grounds where the pope lives.

Sanders was staying at the same residence, because that’s where all participants in the Vatican conference he attended on Friday were spending the night. The only exceptions were Presidents Evo Morales of Bolivia and Rafael Correa of Ecuador, who stayed at their country’s embassy in Rome.

“This morning as I was leaving, Senator Sanders was there,” Francis said. “He knew I was coming out at that time, and he had the kindness to greet me.”

“When I came down, he introduced himself, I greeted him with a handshake, and nothing more,” the pope added. “It’s common courtesy, this is called common courtesy.


“If someone thinks that greeting someone is getting involved in politics,” he said, “I recommend that they find a psychiatrist.”

link: http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2016/04/16/pope-francis-calls-sanders-greeting-only-common-courtesy/


This morning, Bernie Sanders told reporters that he had a meeting with the pope, which forced the pope to respond with the facts when he was asked about it. Bernie made it political. He loitered and waited for the pope to exit the hotel they were both in, and introduced himself. Then he ran and told US Media that he had a meeting with the pope. He's a liar.

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Response to fried eggs (Reply #17)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:44 PM

20. There is no way the pope's handlers would allow him to be put in an unavoidable situtation

Sanders was allowed to be in a location where he could encounter the pope, and the pope was made aware of this fact. The pope made a choice to greet him.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #20)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:48 PM

22. They didn't realize how far Sanders would go to try to get a photo op.

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Response to fried eggs (Reply #22)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:01 PM

30. A photo op with no photo????

Clearly he could have had Jane or someone else get a photo or even video the whole thing. He didn't.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #20)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:53 PM

24. "when I came down he introduced himself"... sounds like the popes handlers didn't know Sanders

... was there waiting for him at 4am

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Response to fried eggs (Reply #17)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:45 PM

21. "He knew I was coming out at that time, and he had the kindness to greet me."

This tells me that Bernie was informed when the Pope would be leaving so they could meet.

The Pope thanks Bernie for greeting him.

Yet, this gets all twisted up as if Bernie pushed himself on the Pope.

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Response to Avalux (Reply #21)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:52 PM

23. Everyone, including those of us here in America, knew the pope had an early flight to Greece

It doesn't take rocket science or an invite to know what time the pope would have to leave to get there on time. The pope went out of his way to avoid direct contact with Sanders, but Sanders stalked the exit to force an encounter.

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Response to fried eggs (Reply #23)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:07 PM

31. Exactly.

The misrepresentations keep coming.

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Response to fried eggs (Reply #23)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:16 PM

32. You are purposefully ingnoring the Pope's words. Are you calling him a liar? n/t

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Response to Avalux (Reply #21)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:54 PM

25. The popes schedule was known... there was no "meeting" Sanders misrepresented the encounter

... with the pope

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Response to fried eggs (Reply #17)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:58 PM

28. What's the lie?

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Response to fried eggs (Reply #17)

Sun Apr 17, 2016, 05:29 PM

35. I met with a religous leader once...

we greeted each other and shook hands. Its called a MEET and GREET.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:42 PM

19. These people must think the Swiss Guards - who are an Army, not just police - are easy pickings.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #19)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:57 PM

27. Damn! Those guys look .... comical.

 

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #19)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:59 PM

29. The butthurt has infected their brains,...

 

...perhaps due to their close proximity.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:57 PM

26. Judging by recent occurrences: 100% likely.

 

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:24 PM

34. How likely is it that just anybody can loiter in the polls

and "ambush" voters?

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sun Apr 17, 2016, 05:44 PM

36. Who cares? Stop wasting your time on their BS nonsense. There are many interesting

 

`threads about actual issues.
Move on.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sun Apr 17, 2016, 06:06 PM

38. Not worth arguing with them about it

Someone who believes that is no longer reachable.

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