Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:05 PM

Honestly, how likely is it just anybody can loiter in the papal residence and "ambush" the pope?

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Honestly, how likely is it just anybody can loiter in the papal residence and "ambush" the pope? (Original post)	whatchamacallit	Apr 2016	OP
I love the words they come up with, They must get their talking points from Frank Luntz:)	litlbilly	Apr 2016	#1
nah, it is from his cousin, David Brock.	virtualobserver	Apr 2016	#3
Let them fantacize, it helps heal the butthurt.	beam me up scottie	Apr 2016	#2
They're delusional.	HooptieWagon	Apr 2016	#4
The Pope was obviously gracious enough	Bobbie Jo	Apr 2016	#5
The pope, as one of the most protected humans on the planet, would not have to meet Bernie	whatchamacallit	Apr 2016	#7
That's what I said, read again	Bobbie Jo	Apr 2016	#8
Drive by is a stupid characterization	whatchamacallit	Apr 2016	#9
The Pope is a gracious person	Bobbie Jo	Apr 2016	#13
“This morning as I was leaving, Senator Sanders was there,” Francis said. “He knew I was coming out"	fried eggs	Apr 2016	#18
Pope doesn't live in the residence...	Agschmid	Apr 2016	#6
I think he might	DrDan	Apr 2016	#37
how likely is it that the Pope seeks a meeting with someone and then does not share a single word	DrDan	Apr 2016	#10
Formality or not, the pope did it of his own accord	whatchamacallit	Apr 2016	#11
okee dokee then - he just wanted to physically be in his presence	DrDan	Apr 2016	#12
My understanding is Sanders went to participate in the conference and was hoping to meet the pope	whatchamacallit	Apr 2016	#14
that we agree on	DrDan	Apr 2016	#16
not.fucking.likely.	Hiraeth	Apr 2016	#15
Here's how it happened:	fried eggs	Apr 2016	#17
There is no way the pope's handlers would allow him to be put in an unavoidable situtation	whatchamacallit	Apr 2016	#20
They didn't realize how far Sanders would go to try to get a photo op.	fried eggs	Apr 2016	#22
A photo op with no photo????	karynnj	Apr 2016	#30
"when I came down he introduced himself"... sounds like the popes handlers didn't know Sanders	uponit7771	Apr 2016	#24
"He knew I was coming out at that time, and he had the kindness to greet me."	Avalux	Apr 2016	#21
Everyone, including those of us here in America, knew the pope had an early flight to Greece	fried eggs	Apr 2016	#23
Exactly.	Bobbie Jo	Apr 2016	#31
You are purposefully ingnoring the Pope's words. Are you calling him a liar? n/t	Avalux	Apr 2016	#32
The popes schedule was known... there was no "meeting" Sanders misrepresented the encounter	uponit7771	Apr 2016	#25
What's the lie?	panader0	Apr 2016	#28
I met with a religous leader once...	Matt_R	Apr 2016	#35
These people must think the Swiss Guards - who are an Army, not just police - are easy pickings.	Fawke Em	Apr 2016	#19
Damn! Those guys look .... comical.	Buzz Clik	Apr 2016	#27
The butthurt has infected their brains,...	HooptieWagon	Apr 2016	#29
Judging by recent occurrences: 100% likely.	Buzz Clik	Apr 2016	#26
Here's the real story	Capt. Obvious	Apr 2016	#33
How likely is it that just anybody can loiter in the polls	Downwinder	Apr 2016	#34
Who cares? Stop wasting your time on their BS nonsense. There are many interesting	pdsimdars	Apr 2016	#36
Not worth arguing with them about it	Marrah_G	Apr 2016	#38

Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:06 PM

litlbilly (2,227 posts)

1. I love the words they come up with, They must get their talking points from Frank Luntz:)

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:08 PM

virtualobserver (8,760 posts)

3. nah, it is from his cousin, David Brock.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:06 PM

beam me up scottie (57,349 posts)

2. Let them fantacize, it helps heal the butthurt.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:09 PM

HooptieWagon (17,064 posts)

4. They're delusional.

This is very entertaining.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:12 PM

Bobbie Jo (14,341 posts)

5. The Pope was obviously gracious enough

to accomodate the "drive by."

This was a craven move on the part of the campaign to save face for this whopper:

"You're meeting with the Pope?"

"Yup." On his way out the door at 4am...

C'mon folks, it is what it is.

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Response to Bobbie Jo (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:16 PM

whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)

7. The pope, as one of the most protected humans on the planet, would not have to meet Bernie

if he was not amenable. Give up the unhingery.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #7)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:18 PM

Bobbie Jo (14,341 posts)

8. That's what I said, read again

"The Pope was obviously gracious enough to accomodate the drive by."

What's your point?

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Response to Bobbie Jo (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:22 PM

whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)

9. Drive by is a stupid characterization

Most people don't make a conscious choice to participate in a "drive by". Sorry for your butthurt.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #9)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:27 PM

Bobbie Jo (14,341 posts)

13. The Pope is a gracious person

"Common courtesy." No surprises there.

Yup.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #9)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:41 PM

fried eggs (910 posts)

18. “This morning as I was leaving, Senator Sanders was there,” Francis said. “He knew I was coming out"

Setting aside the creep factor, why did Sanders run to the US media and say he had a "meeting" with the pope. How is that not a flat out lie?

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:13 PM

Agschmid (28,749 posts)

6. Pope doesn't live in the residence...

But either way Sanders didn't do that...

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #6)

Sun Apr 17, 2016, 05:56 PM

DrDan (20,411 posts)

37. I think he might

". . . helped facilitate an audience for Sanders with the Pope at the Casa Santa Marta, the Vatican guesthouse where Francis keeps his residence."

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/bernie-sanders-meets-pope

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:23 PM

DrDan (20,411 posts)

10. how likely is it that the Pope seeks a meeting with someone and then does not share a single word

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Response to DrDan (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:25 PM

whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)

11. Formality or not, the pope did it of his own accord

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #11)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:26 PM

DrDan (20,411 posts)

12. okee dokee then - he just wanted to physically be in his presence

got it

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Response to DrDan (Reply #12)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:28 PM

whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)

14. My understanding is Sanders went to participate in the conference and was hoping to meet the pope

He did both.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #14)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:30 PM

DrDan (20,411 posts)

16. that we agree on

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:30 PM

Hiraeth (4,805 posts)

15. not.fucking.likely.

buncha fucking bananas around here.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:38 PM

fried eggs (910 posts)

17. Here's how it happened:

On the Vermont senator, Francis said he greeted Sanders on Saturday morning as he was leaving the Santa Marta, the hotel within Vatican grounds where the pope lives.

Sanders was staying at the same residence, because that’s where all participants in the Vatican conference he attended on Friday were spending the night. The only exceptions were Presidents Evo Morales of Bolivia and Rafael Correa of Ecuador, who stayed at their country’s embassy in Rome.

“This morning as I was leaving, Senator Sanders was there,” Francis said. “He knew I was coming out at that time, and he had the kindness to greet me.”

“When I came down, he introduced himself, I greeted him with a handshake, and nothing more,” the pope added. “It’s common courtesy, this is called common courtesy.

“If someone thinks that greeting someone is getting involved in politics,” he said, “I recommend that they find a psychiatrist.”

link: http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2016/04/16/pope-francis-calls-sanders-greeting-only-common-courtesy/

This morning, Bernie Sanders told reporters that he had a meeting with the pope, which forced the pope to respond with the facts when he was asked about it. Bernie made it political. He loitered and waited for the pope to exit the hotel they were both in, and introduced himself. Then he ran and told US Media that he had a meeting with the pope. He's a liar.

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Response to fried eggs (Reply #17)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:44 PM

whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)

20. There is no way the pope's handlers would allow him to be put in an unavoidable situtation

Sanders was allowed to be in a location where he could encounter the pope, and the pope was made aware of this fact. The pope made a choice to greet him.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #20)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:48 PM

fried eggs (910 posts)

22. They didn't realize how far Sanders would go to try to get a photo op.

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Response to fried eggs (Reply #22)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:01 PM

karynnj (59,121 posts)

30. A photo op with no photo????

Clearly he could have had Jane or someone else get a photo or even video the whole thing. He didn't.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #20)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:53 PM

uponit7771 (88,372 posts)

24. "when I came down he introduced himself"... sounds like the popes handlers didn't know Sanders

... was there waiting for him at 4am

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Response to fried eggs (Reply #17)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:45 PM

Avalux (35,015 posts)

21. "He knew I was coming out at that time, and he had the kindness to greet me."

This tells me that Bernie was informed when the Pope would be leaving so they could meet.

The Pope thanks Bernie for greeting him.

Yet, this gets all twisted up as if Bernie pushed himself on the Pope.

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Response to Avalux (Reply #21)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:52 PM

fried eggs (910 posts)

23. Everyone, including those of us here in America, knew the pope had an early flight to Greece

It doesn't take rocket science or an invite to know what time the pope would have to leave to get there on time. The pope went out of his way to avoid direct contact with Sanders, but Sanders stalked the exit to force an encounter.

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Response to fried eggs (Reply #23)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 02:07 PM

Bobbie Jo (14,341 posts)