2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"She's Baldly Lying": Dana Frank Responds to Hillary Clinton's Defense of Her Role in Honduras Coup
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/4/13/shes_baldly_lying_dana_frank_responds
This interview is a must-read for anyone interested in the facts surrounding Hillary's involvement in this incident.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)The US Embassy and State Dept called it an illegal coup. This is a cold-blooded person who lies with impunity because our fake press never covers these issues. This received no press coverage at the time and very little currently.
vintx
(1,748 posts)These people lie with impunity because $$$ is on the line and our fourth estate crumbled long ago. Or no, that implies a slow decay. It's more like it was systematically destroyed.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)That's why Amy is the best. EVERYONE else has pundits and talking heads and they blow hot air at each other, making up their opinions out of their predisposed philosophies. Amy gets sources at the center of the controversies and experts who KNOW things.
It is so revealing when you hear the truth, as opposed to trying to find which pundit's thought most match with yours.
That is how journalism should be done, present the FACTS and THEN we can form our opinions on what it true and not just make it up.
vintx
(1,748 posts)of keeping the public informed so that we can effectively self-govern.
A real Democrat wouldn't accept this shit.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)vintx
(1,748 posts)It's really sad.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)"The legislature, the national legislature in Honduras and the national judiciary actually followed the law in removing President Zelaya."
It's Hillary.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)the NY Daily News would have crucified him. Hillary says it and there is no response. Just shows how much that rag was determined to attack Bernie. They had to pretend that he had said dumb things (as the NY Times pointed out) and pretend that she didn't.
Broward
(1,976 posts)That at her warmongering.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)"Again" would imply a pause before a resumption. There has never been a pause.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)Uncle Joe
(64,538 posts)Thanks for the thread, vintx.
Wish more people gave a shit.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)And now she lies to cover that up.
jfern
(5,204 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)vintx
(1,748 posts)The thought that she could be our nominee. That people WANT her to be.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Back in 2009:
Hillary Clintons Honduran Disgrace
By Matthew Rothschild
The Progressive, March 5, 2010
Hillary Clinton continues with her hawkish ways, making Obamas foreign policy less distinguishable from Bushs every day.
She just met with Honduran President Pepe Lobo, shes notified Congress that the Obama administration is restoring aid to Honduras, and shes urging Latin American nations to recognize the Lobo government in Tegucigalpa.
The democratic opposition in Honduras boycotted lobos election, since hes allied with the forces that overthrew Manuel Zelaya last June.
But for the longest time, Hillary Clinton stubbornly refused to call the June takeover a coup, even though her boss, the president of the United States, immediately denounced it as such.
SNIP..
Other countries of the region say that they want to wait a while, she said on her Latin American trip. I dont know what theyre waiting for.
CONTINUED...
http://progressive.org/wx030510.html
We've seen the story fleshed out a bit since then.
Hillary Clintons Response To Honduran Coup Was Scrubbed From Her Paperback Memoirs
Critics argue the secretary of states efforts paved the way for the violence still plaguing Honduras.
by Roque Planas
Huffington Post, 03/12/2016
Those who want to know what former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said about Honduras' 2009 coup in her autobiography shouldn't bother with the paperback version.
Clinton's role in the aftermath of Honduran President Manuel Zelaya's ouster has come under greater scrutiny since the March 3 assassination of environmental and indigenous rights activist Berta Cáceres. Critics argue that the U.S. push for new elections in the months after the coup helped legitimize the actions of the Honduran military, destabilize the country and pave the way for the extreme violence that followed. Killings of activists like Cáceres and others have become devastatingly common.
But the account Clinton offered of her response to the coup in her memoir Hard Choices was omitted from last year's paperback edition. In June 2009, Zelaya was overthrown by the Honduran military, ushered out of the presidential palace at gunpoint wearing only his pajamas. Months of protests against the de facto government led by Roberto Micheletti followed. While virtually all Latin American governments condemned the coup and called for Zelaya's restoration, Clinton and the U.S. pushed for elections to bring in a new government -- a position she detailed in the hardcover edition of Hard Choices, published in 2014.
Days after the coup, she wrote, she teamed up with Mexican Foreign Secretary Patricia Espinosa to come up with a response.
"We strategized on a plan to restore order in Honduras and ensure that free and fair elections could be held quickly and legitimately, which would render the question of Zelaya moot and give the Honduran people a chance to choose their own future," Clinton wrote.
But that paragraph -- indeed, the entire two-page discussion of the Honduran coup -- disappeared from the paperback edition. In the paperback version, the chapter on Latin America ends abruptly after a look at the debate over whether Cuba should be included in the Organization of American States.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-honduras-coup-memoirs_us_56e34161e4b0b25c91820a08
Putting the interests of the oligarchs in Honduras ahead of the 99-percent isn't proof of how she'll roll in the USA, just a good indicator.
