Sanders was out in the lobby at 6am!! when he "met" the pope!!! Was he suffering from jetlag or

[hill2016]

lying in wait??

https://www.buzzfeed.com/tamerragriffin/bernie-sanders-says-he-met-with-the-pope

But the two met at 6am at the Vatican City guesthouse, according to NBC News, along with Sanders’ wife, Jane, and his campaign economic advisor, Jeffrey Sachs.

[Hissyspit]

1. Oh, good god.

Give it a rest.

[iAZZZo]

14. yep. they're working time-and-a-half now on min. wage in some foreign land

they need to get some rest.

'morrow is sunday when bernie will capture the young "non-voters" (/s) from reddit r/politics front page once again

[CorporatistNation]

54. EXCELLENT!

Thanks! WE Are on the Right Side of History!

[Barack_America]

21. Right?

I just can't respond to these OPs anymore.

The meeting was clearly planned, but even if it wasn't, why wouldn't someone be up and ready to go by 6am when they have a conference to get to?

[Hissyspit]

67. I believe he needed to be in Philadelphia for the Interfaith rally this evening,

if I'm not mistaken. Both he and the Pope were catching flights, I think.

[TheBlackAdder]

24. Pulling OPs like that out of his/her ass... No wonder why there is some SERIOUS BUTTHURT!

[SusanCalvin]

42. Yep, that's my reaction.

I got tired of some Bernie supporters' over-the-top rah, rah - now I'm getting tired of some Hillary supporters' over-the-top boo hoo.

[JackRiddler]

55. STOP TAKING THE BAIT.

(I do reserve the right to make one more post here, however, because I have a joke ready...)

[berniepdx420]

2. ...

you amazingly funny

[jmg257]

3. Wow - At 74 yrs old? God bless him (again) for getting up that early!

Don't forget: 3x

He WONT meet the Pope He WONT meet the Pope He WONT meet the Pope.

[Loudestlib]

4. These post make you look petty and pitiful. n/t

[QC]

6. Too late to start worrying about that. n/t

[.99center]

5. 6 am?

Just to meet the pope? Absurd, who get's up that early? I thought you guys were claiming 4am?

[Fawke Em]

10. What's even funnier is that they can't count.

He couldn't have been there at 4 a.m. - not humanly possible.

New York to Rome is about 8 to 8.5 hours, non-stop.

He left at 12:30 a.m. (according to a pool reporter's Tweet). That would mean he'd be there at about 8:30 - 9 a.m. EST time, or 2:30- 3 p.m. Rome time.

He was probably just getting there and going to his room when the Pope was leaving for Lebos.

[passiveporcupine]

82. kiddo, you got your days mixed up

Bernie spoke at the conference on Friday. He met the Pope early Saturday morning, as they were both leaving at about the same time. Bernie and Jane were in the lobby or foyer at 6am, with their luggage in their hands, when the Pope came down the stairs on his way out. I think the Sander's were on their way to catch a plane home.

[Fawke Em]

88. Ah, so it wasn't when he arrived, but when he was leaving.

OK.

I'd not seen that anywhere.

Either way, there was no ambush.

On Edit: Thanks for calling me "kiddo." I'm 46.

[passiveporcupine]

89. You're a kiddo to me

I'm 66. And the meeting with the Pope was prearranged, so he never lied about anything. Now they all have to eat their words along with some crow.

[The Old Lie]

7. More sour grapes?

I can see the butthurt from there....

[SoLeftIAmRight]

8. The pope sent word to Sanders

Sanders did the proper thing

Some are so clueless hoe the world works

[NanceGreggs]

27. The Pope "sent word to Sanders"?

Any facts to back up that claim?

[SoLeftIAmRight]

28. lol

yes

you just are not in the loop

[NanceGreggs]

30. Well, apparently ...

... no one is "in the loop" when it comes to the Pope having "sent word" to Bernie.

Maybe that's because it never happened.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

33. if you do not see it it does not exist

for you

for those of us that know - it does

expand your horizons

[NanceGreggs]

40. OK - expand my horizons.

Provide the proof that the Pope "sent word to Sanders".

Of course, we both know you can't - because it never happened.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

41. grasshopper - you are not in the loop

...

[NanceGreggs]

43. In other words ...

... you don't have any facts to support your assertions.

Well, we both knew that from the start - too bad you just can't admit it.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

44. No - NO NO NO - there are no other words - are you having trouble???

you are not in the loop

again - just for you

you are not in the loop

[NanceGreggs]

45. What a shame ...

I am not in the non-existent loop.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

46. if you do not see it - it does not exist for you

see the loop

but you are still not in it

[840high]

62. ....

http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/pope-francis-meets-bernie-sanders-vatican-confirms/#ixzz4633ABBnr

[NanceGreggs]

64. So the Pope didn't deny ...

... having met Bernie (who, for some unknown reason was hanging around in the lobby where he knew the Pope would be).

Wow. That'll undoubtedly win Bernie some delegates, eh?

[840high]

68. a 6am breakfast meeting. I'm through

with you. What has happened to you in such a short time? At one time I enjoyed your posts. 'nite

[Hissyspit]

69. "Sachs said he believed that because the Pope couldn’t meet the conference participants last night,

the Vatican “wanted to find a way to thank the senator for coming and to have this meeting, so in the evening the senator was told that it would be the meeting this morning.”

http://m.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/pope-francis-meets-bernie-sanders-vatican-confirms/#ixzz4633ABBnr

Do you have any evidence this is NOT true?

[NanceGreggs]

70. "Sachs said he believed ..."

Well, that certainly makes it a fact, doesn't it?

[Hissyspit]

73. Why are your characterizations and speculations of an event you did not witness more accurate?

More importantly, why don't you recognize the pettiness of all this? It's just all so ridiculous.

[NanceGreggs]

75. I'm not the one arguing with the Pope's version of events.

He was there. I imagine he would know better than you or I.

[Hissyspit]

76. I'm not either.

This is just so absurd.

[NanceGreggs]

80. What is absurd here ...

... is that this entire event could have been PR gold for Bernie.

But instead, due to his campaign and supporters attempting to inflate the importance of the event, it has been turned into shit.

When asked on The View if he was going to the Vatican to meet the Pope, Bernie could have said, "No, not to meet with the Pope, but to participate in a conference at the Vatican, which I am thrilled to have to the chance to do."

Points to Bernie.

Instead, he answered "yes" to the query about whether he was going to Rome to meet the Pope.

No points for Bernie after all - instead, negative comments about having "lied" abound.

BS's campaign characterizing his participation at the conference as an "invitation from the Pope". It wasn't.

Again, no points for Bernie - instead, negative comments about having lied about who initiated the invitation.

Bernie's last-minute scheduling for a ten-minute speech could have been played as a great coup - instead it was over-inflated into Bernie "giving a major address".

Again, no points for Bernie - instead, negative comments about trying to make his role more important than it was.

Now we have the "Bernie had a personal meeting with the Pope" - and some here spinning that into having
been pre-arranged by the Pontiff. It wasn't.

Again, no points for Bernie - instead, negative comments about having lied about how the "meeting" came about, as it was later shown to be merely the result of Bernie hanging out in the lobby when he knew the Pope would be arriving momentarily.

This could have been a great moment for Bernie - had he and his campaign been honest from the start.

Instead, it has been turned into a PR nightmare, as his campaign tries to explain away their blatant lies and deliberate misinformation.

The end result is that Bernie just "berned" through hundreds of thousands of his donors' dollars - and all he got out of it is a lot of people questioning his credibility.

It shouldn't have gone this way - but it did.

Maybe Bernie should consider suing his own campaign managers/advisors - because they royally fucked-up what could have been PR gold and turned it into shit.

[Hissyspit]

81. Yes, no bad reflection on Clinton supporters, who constantly spun every little development of the

trip as a lie, despite being proven wrong again and again. And literally again.

Of course not.

Pope Stalker? Really?? Christ.

[NanceGreggs]

84. I don't believe ...

... it was a Hillary supporter who told Bernie to answer "yes" when asked if he was going to the vatican to meet the Pope.

I don't think it was an HRC supporter who stated that Bernie was "invited by the Pope".

I don't think it was a Hillary supporter who claimed that the Pope had pre-arranged a "meeting" with Bernie - in fact, the Pope himself said quite the opposite.

These lies have been pouring out of the BS campaign all along. If they hadn't told those lies, this could have been a nice PR moment for Bernie.

[Hissyspit]

86. He met the Pope.

[NanceGreggs]

87. Yes, he did.

He stood in the lobby where he knew the Pope would be passing through, and that's how they "met". It wasn't pre-arranged, it wasn't initiated by the Pope, and it wasn't a five-minute meeting discussing issues - which many here have been claiming all day.

[Hissyspit]

94. There is no contradiction here:

Here’s what Bernie said:

“It was a real honor for my wife and I to spend some time with him,” the senator told The Associated Press on Saturday morning during an interview at a hotel rooftop overlooking St. Peter’s Square. “He is one of the extraordinary figures not only in the world today but in modern world history.”

The meeting occurred at Domus Santa Marta, the pope’s residence. The senator and his wife, Jane, were overnight guests there after attending a conference on Friday at the Vatican on economic inequality and climate change.

“I told him that I was incredibly appreciative of the incredible role that he is playing in this planet in discussing issues about the need for an economy based on morality, not greed,” Sanders told AP.

The meeting occurred before the pontiff departed for a trip to Greece to highlight the refugee crisis.

And here’s what the Pope said:

Pope Francis said his brief encounter Saturday with U.S. presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was a sign of good manners, “nothing more,” and hardly evidence of interfering in American politics.

…”This morning when I left, Sen. Sanders was there. … He knew I was leaving at that time and I had the kindness to greet him and his wife and another couple who were with them,” the pope told reporters traveling back with him to the Vatican.

“When I came down, I greeted them, shook their hands and nothing more. This is good manners. It’s called good manners and not getting mixed up in politics. If anyone thinks that greeting someone means getting involved in politics, they should see a psychiatrist,” the pope said.

Jeffrey Sachs, a Sanders foreign policy adviser, said there were no photographs taken of the pope and Sanders together. Sanders’ spokesman, Michael Briggs, said Francis was “100 percent correct that this was not a political meeting,” thanking the pope’s staff making the arrangements. He said Sanders and his wife “were advised the night before to be ready to meet the pope at 6 a.m.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/attacking-bernie-sanders-over-his-visit-with-the-pope-is-garbage/

It sounds like the vast majority of visits with a Pontiff that I've ever heard about in my lifetime. The "stalker" slander characterization does not deserve respectful consideration.

[ThePhilosopher04]

58. Common sense. Use it. Peace out.

[NanceGreggs]

61. Does being "in the loop" ...

... involve my Captain Midnight decoder ring?

Saying the "Pope sent word to Sanders" without an iota of proof is pretty much the same as saying the Pope sent Hillary a private message endorsing her candidacy - no proof needed.

People can say whatever on the internetz. The fact that some people need to believe "whatever" without facts is obvious.

[ThePhilosopher04]

65. Again, common sense. Everyone knows the Pope and Bernie share common beliefs and values.

and it doesn't take direct, audiovisual proof to have a very good idea how it all went down. I guess the next step by Clintonistas is to accuse Bernie of being a stalker, if that hasn't been done already.

[NanceGreggs]

66. Just because the Pope and BS share some common values ...

... does not mean the Pope "sent word to Bernie" for a private meeting.

If the Pope wanted to meet with Bernie, he is certainly in a position to have arranged one - rather than Bernie hanging out in a lobby where he knew he could have a "chance meeting" with the Pontiff.

This entire episode could have been some good PR for Bernie - if his campaign and his supporters hadn't lied about every aspect of it from the get-go.

[.99center]

83. Already done

"Apparently Sanders' meeting with the Pope was like a groupie stalking a rock star in a hotel lobby"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511755961
"Bernie spent $600,000 of his fans' hard-earned money to stalk the Pope."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107103846
On edit
I didn't catch the sarcasm,was sarcasm right? I knew I've read the stalking memo a few times but holy shit!

Within 24 hrs google shows three pages of people accusing him of stalking on DU.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Bernie+stalking&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com&gws_rd=ssl#q=stalking:democraticunderground.com&tbs=qdr:d

[Hissyspit]

71. Like people saying in the Internets that Sanders was just "hanging out in the lobby where he knew

the Pope would be?"

[NanceGreggs]

72. According to the Pope ...

... that's exactly what happened.

[Hissyspit]

74. I read his interview. It can be characterized a number of ways, so, no, not exactly.

The Sachs version and the Pope version are not necessarily at odds.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. Wasn't he up all night, lurking behind a potted palm?

This obsession gets funnier every day.

[In_The_Wind]

20. ...

[Silver_Witch]

39. Ohh I heard it all wrong...

I heard he was up all night lurking in the Pope's Potty...my bad.

[Buns_of_Fire]

93. I'd heard that he hid under the food cart.

When the Pope came near for his morning orange juice, Bernie reached out and grabbed him by the ankles and wouldn't let go until Francis said "good morning". That, or he dressed up like a chambermaid and hid in the closet.

I'm willing to admit there might have been a mistake in translation.

[HooptieWagon]

11. Still butthurt?

Seek medical attention.

[ucrdem]

12. Coink I'm sure. nt

[cherokeeprogressive]

13. Do the Hillary Fans at Camp Weathervane ever send you PMs...

Telling you to shut the hell up?

[NurseJackie]

15. An encounter ... not an audience with the pope,

... as they'd like us to believe.

BUSTED!

[hobbit709]

19. Fill this out and send it in.

[Kalidurga]

36. Oh hey I found a report filled out by an anon Hillary supporter

[840high]

63. ....

http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/pope-francis-meets-bernie-sanders-vatican-confirms/#ixzz4633ABBnr

[Logical]

16. hill2016, rude as usual. nt

[revbones]

79. I think it's a requirement for using that avatar. nt

[Art_from_Ark]

90. I think hill2016 might actually be a Bernie supporter

Certainly s/he doesn't honestly believe that his/her posts are doing anything to help that person in his/her avatar.

[AgingAmerican]

17. Jealous resentment

[Surya Gayatri]

18. Perhaps one of the Pope's aids rang Bernardo's room to say:

"Be in the lobby in 15 min. His Eminence is leaving for Greece and you may be able to catch his eye as he walks past."

Or, maybe Bernardo just couldn't sleep. Common problem for trans-Atlantic travelers, especially from west to east.

You wake up at the most un-godly hours. He may have been taking a stroll to walk off the insomnia.

[Iliyah]

22. LOL, they were waiting for him and while he tried to leave they came up and greeted him.

Not a 5 minute chat claimed by Jeffrey Sachs, just a greeting and a hand shake. Many Catholics already know this is what happened and are not impressed.

[Surya Gayatri]

25. PR fail! The Pope's in-flight, no-nonsense "clarification"

will be running during the next 24-hour news cycle, non-stop.

[Iliyah]

31. Its 7:47 p.m. here in Los Angeles, what time is it for you?

And Hello!

[Surya Gayatri]

37. Going on 5 a.m. Woke up at 4 a.m. and couldn't get back to sleep.

Decided to visit the bear-baiting pit just for a chuckle. The collective BSer insanity in the lead-up to NY is quite entertaining.

Lots of near-hysteria and nastiness on display.

Oh, well, it's nearly over.



And, now I think I'll be able to fall back to sleep after the soporific rantings of the BSers. See you soon!

[Iliyah]

78. CNN is reporting that the Pope has a different take on the very brief meeting

[Surya Gayatri]

98. Watch this space...

[Peregrine Took]

23. Ah, but they try SO hard to be amusing, snarky, pithy, etc....'sniff.....

its just sad.

Typing thier little fingers to a nubbin' trying SO hard to show off how clever they are.

Kind of cute, really - want so hard to be noticed.

LOOK AT ME - LOOK AT ME!!

[Goblinmonger]

26. They may make an ointment for what ails you.

[rhett o rick]

29. Clinton supports Prisons For Profits and supported cutting welfare. nm

[jfern]

32. The meeting was scheduled at 6am

According to the economist Jeffrey Sachs, who has also been attending the conference which ends today, the courtesy visit was prearranged. “Last night the meeting was scheduled for 6am this morning,” Sachs said in comments to CNA. “They had the chance to talk for several minutes.” No photographs were taken of the encounter.

http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/pope-francis-meets-bernie-sanders-vatican-confirms/#ixzz4633ABBnr

[passiveporcupine]

85. Thanks for posting this

I figured this is how it occurred.

Now the Hill camp will have to give up the current story of the Pope just shaking Bernie's hand, and it couldn't have taken five minutes.

Sachs said in comments to CNA. “They had the chance to talk for several minutes.” No photographs were taken of the encounter.

Will they ever let this ridiculous and disgusting attack on Bernie end?

[oldandhappy]

34. I am fascinated by this obsession.

[Armstead]

35. DU's Papal OCD Syndrome

Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.
Sanders went to the Vatican. How Awful.




Must Know More.
Must Know More.
Must Know More.
Must Know More.
Must Know More.

[sadoldgirl]

49. Serious earth shaking problem:

Who paid for his trip?
Who paid for his trip?
Who paid for his trip?

Must know all of this!
Must know all of this!
Must know all of this

[Silver_Witch]

38. Jealousy so become Hillary Clinton and her Supporters

You know if it were she meeting with the Pope you would become overwhelmed with joy.

[nolawarlock]

47. I wonder if the pope was secretly thinking ...

Get off my lawn! :-D

[DefenseLawyer]

48. A life.

Get one.

[pantsonfire]

50. ....

[HassleCat]

51. I hope this pathetic obsession is not generated by the actual Clinton campaign.

This has gone way, way beyond ridiculous. If we rely on this kind of stuff in the general election, we are toast.

[SusanCalvin]

56. I kinda hope it is. Would prove they are desperate idiots.

I try to be polite, but I'm really getting tired of this garbage.

[brooklynite]

52. How could he be suffering from jet-lag?

Those First Class lie-flat seats on a the chartered Delta 767 are really comfy...

[SusanCalvin]

53. Oh please.

He ambushed the pope in the hall? It was arranged. Give it up.

[jfern]

57. He was told he could meet then

[JackRiddler]

59. This shit is getting worse than JFK bullet trajectories.

("I'll tell you where the shots came from, they came from the Pentagon." - John Judge)

Obsessive lamb!

You know no one cares about your bullshit and the only real humans who respond are just doing it for the fun, right?

[Bjornsdotter]

60. Since the word met is in quotation marks

.....does that mean that he didn't meet the Pope and that the Pope is lying?

[Lordquinton]

77. Is... Is this satire?

I honestly can't tell anymore.

[passiveporcupine]

91. The meeting was prearranged by the Pope,

and he apologized that he could meet the conference on Friday (as originally planned) because he had to get up early for his trip Sat morning. So...he had planned on meeting the conference goers...including Bernie, and Bernie never lied about that.

It's in my post in this thread, with a link to the article. You might want to close your gaping mouth so you don't spew forth any more garbage.

[silvershadow]

92. Early flight back. He was back in NY on the campaign trail within hours! #feelthebern nt

[melman]

95. Why is this kind of trolling permitted?

Is this really the kind of site the admins want? Apparently so.

[Cha]

96. The Pope's Quote.. you be the judge..

AlGiordano ??@AlGiordano
Full context of the Pope's quotes on the plane about his brief encounter with Sanders:http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2016/04/16/pope-francis-calls-sanders-greeting-only-common-courtesy/ …
6:14 AM - 16 Apr 2016
542 542 Retweets 506 506 likes

https://theobamadiary.com/2016/04/16/west-wing-week-21/#comments

[jillan]

97. Hate to burst your fantasies but the meeting was set up the nite before.

“Last night the meeting was scheduled for 6am this morning,

http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/pope-francis-meets-bernie-sanders-vatican-confirms/

[Bjornsdotter]

100. What is that sound I hear?

Oh yeah....crickets.

[2pooped2pop]

99. Just give it a rest. Bernie to Vatican. Hillary not qualified. Your sour grapes is ruining the wh

Whine. Let it go. Breathe.

[redstateblues]

101. The old Hail Mary ambush tactic

I've used that a few times in business. I probably looked as foolish as Bernie did.

[LAS14]

102. Interpret the Pope's words for yourself.

[kstewart33]

103. How does that jibe with the Pope's comments on the plane?

Or is the Pope misinformed?

[longship]

104. Oh dear! What the fuck is wrong with you people?

Is this "Make shit up land?"

What candidate's surrogates think that they have to make shit up to win?

I can think of many GOP candidates that fit the bill.

OH! OH! AND HILLARY CLINTON!

Her surrogates do that, too.

It's sad. You are fucking pathetic!