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imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 11:30 AM Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton Throws President Obama Under The Bus!



Defending Attack on Libya, Clinton Blames Obama—And Suggests Repeat for Syria
Former secretary of state mounts questionable defense of disastrous intervention in Libya during Democratic debate
by Nadia Prupis, staff writer
April 15, 2016


During a heated Democratic debate in New York on Thursday night, Hillary Clinton sought to both defend and deflect responsibility for her central role in destabilizing Libya—by blaming President Barack Obama.

"The decision was the president's," she said in response to criticism from rival Bernie Sanders over her leadership as then-Secretary of State during the 2011 military intervention to overthrow Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi.

"Did I do due diligence? Did I talk to everybody I could talk to? Did I visit every capitol and then report back to the president? Yes, I did. That's what every secretary of state does," Clinton said. "But at the end of the day, those are the decisions that are made by the president to in any way use American military power, and the president made that decision, and yes, we did try without success because of the Libyans' obstruction to our efforts, but we did try and will continue to try to help the Libyan people."

In a previous debate, Clinton said the president had made "the right decision at the time" and blamed the instability that followed on the Arab Spring and "a lot of other things."

The contrast in perspectives was quickly noted by observers, who also pointed out that Clinton's seeming blame of the president comes after she criticized Sanders for his disapproval of Obama's policies.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/04/15/defending-attack-libya-clinton-blames-obama-and-suggests-repeat-syria
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Hillary Clinton Throws President Obama Under The Bus! (Original Post) imagine2015 Apr 2016 OP
Again. Apparently, she has a love, hate relationship with Obama. nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #1
tolerate-hate relationship, rather. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #12
CommonDreams hates Obama ... so its no surprise they'd try to ... JoePhilly Apr 2016 #2
Common Dreams has always remained true to Progressive issues artislife Apr 2016 #16
How can the The Self Appointed Guardian of the Legacy do that? Autumn Apr 2016 #3
must have been when the wheels came off. silvershadow Apr 2016 #4
After mentioning Obama over 60 times during the last debate FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #5
Hillary Clinton on Libya. PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #6
The OP title is bullshit. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #7
I'm sorry. Should I have written "Hillary pushed Obama under the bus" rather than threw? imagine2015 Apr 2016 #11
heh heh. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #13
How about Hillary shoved President Obama under the truck? imagine2015 Apr 2016 #19
Face it. We do not throw those we have embraced under the bus... Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #20
A classic symptom of CDS is pretending that Clinton has more power than she actually does. IamMab Apr 2016 #8
But since there's no one who doesn't already know she's a compulsive liar, it's not very surprising. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #9
Emails make it very clear that Sidney Blumenthal was cheerleading Hillary Clinton ... DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #10
The hillarians want it both ways. They list her time as secstate as invaluable executive experience Doctor_J Apr 2016 #14
She throws him under there one day and pulls him out QC Apr 2016 #15
How many times does she need to stab him in the back for people to get that she's not on his side? Hydra Apr 2016 #17
She rolled right over him on Honduras. Downwinder Apr 2016 #18
It's pretty clear from the emails that she was running Libya... DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #21
Couldn't be any clearer from that e-mail. imagine2015 Apr 2016 #22
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
12. tolerate-hate relationship, rather.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 11:42 AM
Apr 2016

Or don't you remember who started the Kenyan conspiracy theories, the Muslim innuendos, and so on? Who ignored his direct order never to consult Blumenthal about Libya?

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
2. CommonDreams hates Obama ... so its no surprise they'd try to ...
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 11:33 AM
Apr 2016

.... stir shit.

They've been doing it since he took office.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
16. Common Dreams has always remained true to Progressive issues
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:08 PM
Apr 2016

I didn't like it much when they would call out Obama on certain things, but they were right on most of them.

And I am still a huge Obama fan. His likability factor is at a 10 and I realize his row to hoe was a much harder row than any other president before him. But we need to stop giving away land to conservative or worse, apathetic ideals.

We are in dire straits and incremental isn't going to work.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
19. How about Hillary shoved President Obama under the truck?
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:21 PM
Apr 2016

Is that more accurate?

Or kick him down the stairs?

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
20. Face it. We do not throw those we have embraced under the bus...
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:23 PM
Apr 2016

...simply because of a simple disagreement.

You should try that approach.

 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
8. A classic symptom of CDS is pretending that Clinton has more power than she actually does.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 11:39 AM
Apr 2016

Obama is the Commander-in-Chief, and the Secretary of State does not get to command troops. Ever. SecState is a Cabinet-level position, meaning that they serve at the discretion of the POTUS and provide advice. Cabinet members do not order the President around, or take action in the President's name without authority.

Please stop acting like the buck stops wherever Clinton is just because she's there. It continues to stop at the Oval Office, where POTUS sits.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
9. But since there's no one who doesn't already know she's a compulsive liar, it's not very surprising.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 11:40 AM
Apr 2016

But I wouldn't be trying to sell my kid's Girl Scout Cookies to the Obamas anytime soon if I were Hillary.

 

DemocracyDirect

(708 posts)
10. Emails make it very clear that Sidney Blumenthal was cheerleading Hillary Clinton ...
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 11:40 AM
Apr 2016

... on Libya.

And he was very happy when she convince Obama to go to war.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
14. The hillarians want it both ways. They list her time as secstate as invaluable executive experience
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:03 PM
Apr 2016

Then Claim she did nothing but carry out Obama's orders.

QC

(26,371 posts)
15. She throws him under there one day and pulls him out
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:04 PM
Apr 2016

and hugs him the next, depending on current needs.

Now that the southern primaries are over, we should expect more of the former than the latter.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
17. How many times does she need to stab him in the back for people to get that she's not on his side?
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:12 PM
Apr 2016

She's on her side, no one else's.

 

DemocracyDirect

(708 posts)
21. It's pretty clear from the emails that she was running Libya...
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:34 PM
Apr 2016
“Just a quick quote. First, brava! This is a historic moment and you will be credited for realizing it. When Qaddafi himself is finally removed, you should of course make a public statement before the cameras whenever you are, even in the driveway of your vacation house. You must go on camera. You must establish yourself in the historical record at this moment. The most important phrase is ‘successful strategy.’”


http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/06/23/blumenthal-emails-selected-quotes-from-his-notes-to-hillary-clinton/
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