2016 Postmortem
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Defending Attack on Libya, Clinton Blames ObamaAnd Suggests Repeat for Syria
Former secretary of state mounts questionable defense of disastrous intervention in Libya during Democratic debate
by Nadia Prupis, staff writer
April 15, 2016
During a heated Democratic debate in New York on Thursday night, Hillary Clinton sought to both defend and deflect responsibility for her central role in destabilizing Libyaby blaming President Barack Obama.
"The decision was the president's," she said in response to criticism from rival Bernie Sanders over her leadership as then-Secretary of State during the 2011 military intervention to overthrow Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi.
"Did I do due diligence? Did I talk to everybody I could talk to? Did I visit every capitol and then report back to the president? Yes, I did. That's what every secretary of state does," Clinton said. "But at the end of the day, those are the decisions that are made by the president to in any way use American military power, and the president made that decision, and yes, we did try without success because of the Libyans' obstruction to our efforts, but we did try and will continue to try to help the Libyan people."
In a previous debate, Clinton said the president had made "the right decision at the time" and blamed the instability that followed on the Arab Spring and "a lot of other things."
The contrast in perspectives was quickly noted by observers, who also pointed out that Clinton's seeming blame of the president comes after she criticized Sanders for his disapproval of Obama's policies.
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/04/15/defending-attack-libya-clinton-blames-obama-and-suggests-repeat-syria
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Or don't you remember who started the Kenyan conspiracy theories, the Muslim innuendos, and so on? Who ignored his direct order never to consult Blumenthal about Libya?
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts).... stir shit.
They've been doing it since he took office.
artislife
(9,497 posts)I didn't like it much when they would call out Obama on certain things, but they were right on most of them.
And I am still a huge Obama fan. His likability factor is at a 10 and I realize his row to hoe was a much harder row than any other president before him. But we need to stop giving away land to conservative or worse, apathetic ideals.
We are in dire straits and incremental isn't going to work.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)PufPuf23
(8,840 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)What's new?
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)No, you should have been truthful. Too late. You doubled down.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Is that more accurate?
Or kick him down the stairs?
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)...simply because of a simple disagreement.
You should try that approach.
IamMab
(1,359 posts)Obama is the Commander-in-Chief, and the Secretary of State does not get to command troops. Ever. SecState is a Cabinet-level position, meaning that they serve at the discretion of the POTUS and provide advice. Cabinet members do not order the President around, or take action in the President's name without authority.
Please stop acting like the buck stops wherever Clinton is just because she's there. It continues to stop at the Oval Office, where POTUS sits.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)But I wouldn't be trying to sell my kid's Girl Scout Cookies to the Obamas anytime soon if I were Hillary.
DemocracyDirect
(708 posts)... on Libya.
And he was very happy when she convince Obama to go to war.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Then Claim she did nothing but carry out Obama's orders.
QC
(26,371 posts)and hugs him the next, depending on current needs.
Now that the southern primaries are over, we should expect more of the former than the latter.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)She's on her side, no one else's.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)DemocracyDirect
(708 posts)http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/06/23/blumenthal-emails-selected-quotes-from-his-notes-to-hillary-clinton/