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[Ash_F]

1. "Black Lives Matter, CodePink and MoveOn who are more appropriately called repressives."?

I guess I am organizing with the wrong people. You just saved me a bunch of time this year.

[Kalidurga]

2. I prefer safe spaces to unsafe ones. I am probably in the minority on that issue though.

[jillan]

3. Did you seriously just post Dershowitz to DISS BLM? Code Pink? AND MOVEON - which was created for

the Clinton's benefit?
I'm not even going to Alert. I want this to stand so everyone can see it.

[Aerows]

11. I'd say that the H side has descended into madness

but, damn, even Saruman didn't go this far.

[RoccoR5955]

30. These are truly acts of desperation

They KNOW that they are going to lose, so they are letting out all the stops, and smearing the opposition with whatever lies they can make up, or dig up.

[Aerows]

35. It is truly fascinating

Objectively, it is interesting to watch collective insanity.

[artislife]

36. Can't believe you got hidden for crossposting

I just spent 5 hours doing the second part of 4 caucusing for Bernie in WA state. I saw on our side...loads of "repressives".

SMH, this OP is proof that there is a right bent in the party.

[jillan]

65. Agreed about the hide. Esp since where it was posted. Thought that was safe. Sad you saw it at the

the caucus as well.
But thanks for showing up for team Bernie

[appalachiablue]

59. Unbelievable! The country is so FAR RIGHT now, incl. HC, Bernie's platform is Center, slight left.

So let's see, these groups are going to burn down the Reichstag? Na, don't think so. Oh wait, in Vermont years ago Mayor Sanders went off on City Hall I think.....Nutso world, and Dershowitz, pleaaasee...

[delrem]

64. Who has been here 2 weeks, 270 posts, all going for the underbelly?

There seems to be a swarm of them.

Is "Brockspace" a word?
If not, how come it snapped into place in my mind as being a fitting addition to the sub-sector of vocabulary I label 'kinds of schizophrenic sounds'?

Please. Don't answer.

Back to the topic. I think the OP and Dershowitz don't deviate one iota from what Dershowitz is well known to be: extreme right wing.
Hippy punching is reflexive for such as them, hardly more than a nervous twitch. A schizophrenic twitch? A symptom, at any rate.

[Avalux]

4. I'm tired of the demonization of those working for meaningful change.

Dershowitz is just one of many trying desperately to maintain the status quo by doing this.

[Aerows]

5. They would probably like proper grammar and spelling

from the get-go.

(that's an idiom.)

[Warren Stupidity]

6. Dershowitz is a neocon fuck-knob.

[Aerows]

8. (that's another idiom.) n/t

[farleftlib]

44. This from the man who wholeheartedly approved torture

He is a nutjob and his shitting on those groups makes me glad I support all of them.

[kcjohn1]

7. MoveOn, BLM, CodePink - Not to Dershowitz liking

Unbelievable to hear from the likes of him who doesn't think twice about hanging around pedoes like Jeffrey Epstein.

[bobbobbins01]

29. A certain someone's husband also hangs around Epstein.

Birds of a feather.

[appalachiablue]

62. What Alan prefers will be explained if certain candidates win nomination. That will be something..

[bobmartel]

9. How many die before its repression?

Ideas differ but too many die from intolerance, and different views even if it is not repression.

[geek tragedy]

10. Fuck Alan Dershowitz nt

[Blue Meany]

12. Save Spaces from the guy who wanted "torture warrrants?" n/t

[bettyellen]

13. hate this crap. shut up, Dershowitz.... Mr Columbian Bow Tie Asshole.

[SusanCalvin]

14. Good point? Really? nt

[bjo59]

15. What Dershowitz really can't stand is...

any of those college age anti-israel types of which he's pretty sure that some BLM, CodePink, and MoveOn "sorts" are. They just totally chap his hide! He's a buffoon. He's also one of the people who flew on Jeffrey Epstein's "Lolita Express." (Dershowitz may be a real low-life but I'm sure that Hillary Clinton's total support of Netanyahu does warm the cockles of his shriveled up old heart.)

[GreatGazoo]

16. If the strawman does not fit then Dershowitz must quit

What a baseless logic salad that thing was.

[Else You Are Mad]

24. ^this^

[Bonobo]

17. Dershowitz... fuck. So happy not to have him on my side. nt

[Ferd Berfel]

48. Dershowitz the

[ReasonableToo]

18. It's not the Bernie supporters that write "Bernie room" on their OP titles.

To protect their safe space.

[dchill]

19. Dershowitz fail; thread fail.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

20. Eeek!! Far Leftists! Code Pink!! Black Lives Matter!! MoveOn!! Red Bait much?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

21. We don't typically listen to pro torturers points of view here. At least I don't.

[rbrnmw]

22. Fuck Alan Dershowitz

[gabeana]

23. To support your candidate

you seriously post Dershowitz, defaming these ground breaking liberal groups, Code`Pink, BLM, Moveon you know they have been on the right side of history

Dershowitz, you know who did everything in his power and succeeded in getting Norm Finklestein denied tenure, because the man doesn't follow the company line on Israel, Finklestein whose parents were Holocaust survivors

[Else You Are Mad]

25. It finally happened!

Both Hillary and Sanders supports are finally in agreement on DU!!!! Dershowitz is an awful human being.

[Aerows]

40. I believe that you have hit the high note on this thread.

Dershowitz is so low you cannot drag him out of the drain when it is stopped up.

[TMontoya]

26. As I said

I do not like Dershowitz but his point has some truth to it. Sanders supporters certainly do not like outside views invading their bubble, much like tea partiers (to a lesser extent).

[RoccoR5955]

32. Oh?

Is that why so many have been banned from the Clinton "safe zone?" They HATE people who have views outside of their own. Some who have been banned merely because of typos!
Get real, and stop reflecting!

[TMontoya]

38. Difference being

The Hillary group IS safe zone just as the Bernie group.

Maybe I should have put a trigger warning in the title.

[RoccoR5955]

39. So

Why did you just say that Bernie supporters don't like people of opposing views burst their bubble in their safe zone, if the Clinton room is the same way?
Sounds like double standards to me.

[TMontoya]

41. I'm not surprised

It went over your head. There is a time and place for "safe spaces" and colleges for one thing aren't one of those places.

[Aerows]

42. Declaring that people reading your post need a trigger warning?

FAIL.

If you make a post so bad that you shriek "trigger warning", it's you that needs one.

Here, let me say it again.


That makes as much sense as your post.

[angrychair]

37. ROFL

the irony in your statement is a stunning thing to behold. That you use this POS words to support your point is disgusting and bizarre. That you are "ok" with him attacking MoveOn is embarrassing and shameful.

[stone space]

27. I prefer safe spaces to torture warrents. (nt)

[QC]

28. BREAKING NEWS: Right Wing Asshole Doesn't Like Leftists! n/t

[Bread and Circus]

31. Wait...so now it's "ok" to say Black Live Matter" is repressive? And you are linking to it?

And calling it a good point?

And the Hillarian Brigade is not here to curb stomp you and call you a "Third Way Progressive" white elitist cum racist?

My times have changed.

[TMontoya]

33. BLM does their cause no favors

With the stunts they pull. I support their cause however their methods do not gain them very many supporters.

[Jefferson23]

47. Stunts? Is that how you see it...geeze. n/t

[Eric J in MN]

34. Bogus. Bernie Sanders said he's against disrupting rallies.

The people who have disrupted Donald Trump rallies aren't all Sanders supporters.

Alan Dershowitz is smearing Bernie Sanders in NY newspaper before the NY Primary.

[Gregorian]

43. I was going to make a reply,

but with all of the comments, it must have already been said.

It's reverso world. As if Reagan had never existed. Those spoiled Bernie Brats. Hey, I just made that up. I've actually thought about this. What if we get enough activity to own Congress in the near future. That isn't going to go well with those who have had their ways for maybe thousands of years. But for brevity's' sake let's just leave it at half a century. I'm talking about owner/owned society. That makes for a counterproductive society.

[Tarc]

45. Even though the gist is largely right, Alan Dershowitz is a miserable fucking scumbag

in every other aspect of his existence.

[w4rma]

54. No "the gist" is nowhere close to being "largely right", unless you mean largely right-wing. (nt)

[Jefferson23]

46. There he goes, BLM, CodePink and then: Sanders himself has contributed to anti-Israel defamation...

Alan is not a liberal minded man, he has put forth tortured reasoning for torture..hey, get a
warrant! Then it would be fine.


Keep blowing those dog whistles, Alan and twisting Sanders intentions about the Israel/Gaza
conversation.

You should be shunned, Alan..just go away.

[Marr]

49. Didn't take long to throw BLM under the bus.

Confront Hillary on a topic or two, and you're persona non grata.

I guess Team Hillary figures they don't need them anymore, huh?

[XemaSab]

50. Reccing for how ridiculous this is

n/t

[w4rma]

51. A Clinton surrogate says that progressives are not progressives.

Only those who sit down, shut up and accept austerity are "progressive" according to this Clinton surrogate.

Clinton's Third Wayers are a cancer in the Democratic Party.

[stone space]

52. I want a space safe from torture warrents.

I don't feel particularly safe around folks who think that torture is OK.

I'm kind of funny that way.

[notadmblnd]

53. That's amusing

[ChisolmTrailDem]

55. Putting you on ignore. Goodbye. nt

[CharlotteVale]

56. Dershowitz? Seriously? Have you no shame?

[2banon]

57. Bwhaaaaaaa! Oh Dersh.

Too many of them have too little tolerance for views different than their own

.




You're such a hypocrite! Look in the mirror dude, you tried old demagogue.

[reddread]

58. I just threw up a lot

what a burning bag of dogshit from the passenger of what plane, now?

[pat_k]

60. "repressives"? I think Frederick Douglas would have a different view...

...of MoveOn, CodePink, BLM, and Occupy.

"Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are people who want crops without ploughing the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning; they want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. The struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, or it may be both. But it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will."
-- Frederick Douglass

I disapprove of the level of "Hillary vilification" that we are seeing. I think it tends to drown out messages of hope, "dreaming big," and confidence necessary to motivate action and change. Getting angry lights a spark, but I think it takes more than anger to keep people engaged.

However, I completely reject Dershowitz' singling out and condemning MoveOn, CodePink, BLM, and Occupy

These groups have been at the forefront of many efforts I've taken part in over the years. Like lobbying members of congress to reject the Ohio electors on Jan 6th, 2005; lobbying for legislation protecting the integrity of our elections; lobbying senators to filibuster Alito; lobbying to impeach Bush; lobbying for legislation to advance racial and economic justice. I've given monetary support to a number of other projects and efforts these groups have engaged in. I have differences of opinion with the groups on the effectiveness of some of their actions, nevertheless, I am incredibly grateful that they exist.

If Bernie believes some of the actions his supporters are engaged in are counterproductive, I would encourage him to speak out. But Dershowitz is asking him to lump together and condemn a heterogeneous group of passionate and effective activists. Following such advice would be flat wrong.

Regarding Sanders alleged "woeful misrepresentations" of the number killed in Gaza Operation Protective Edge -- that canard was debunked by the Times of Isreal:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/sanders-tells-adl-he-knows-he-got-his-gaza-death-toll-number-wrong/

His campaign, meanwhile, issued a statement saying his words had been “distorted,” asserting that the senator had conflated the number of dead with the number of total casualties, and confirming that he had acknowledged a corrected figure in the course of the interview.

The audio of the conversation shows that Sanders was indeed corrected in the course of the conversation, and provided with the far lower death toll of 2,300, and that he said “okay” in accepting the correction. The transcript of the interview issued by the newspaper had failed to include the senator’s “okay.”

P.S. The the nydn interview didn't just leave out key words, in at least one other place, they left out one AND added a few in.:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511676187


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And, if you want to wash out any bad taste left by Dershowitz' article, here are some more quotes I like:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511744422

[chknltl]

61. He forgot to bitch about the Pope nt

[Iliyah]

63. Why would he?

Many factors makes Democracy work . . one is freedom of speech and the ability to respectfully listen.