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merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. Advocated for the IWR, didn't back qual rights until 2013, offers a Constitutional
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:05 AM
Apr 2016

amendment on choice, wrote a a flag burning amendment two years in a row, ran a "racially tinged campaign" against a fellow Democrat and the first African American who seemed to have realistic shot at the nomination.....

Maybe that's moderate?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
2. The biggest political tragedy in my lifetime
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:08 AM
Apr 2016

The Clintons and their cronies ruined the two-party system in the US. Leaving us at the mercy of the Corporate Monopolies and Robber Barons and Wall St. Pigs.


Before this, from 1932-1976, the Democratic Party as a whole was far more progressive. The issues and approaches advocated today by Bernie Sanders were considered mainstream Democratic ideas by Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, and Lyndon Johnson, and even many moderate Republicans. It was common to support strict financial regulation, liberal immigration, social services for the poor, and progressive tax policies.
 

The Far Left

(59 posts)
10. Eisenhower would be Progressive by today's standards
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:32 AM
Apr 2016

'President Eisenhower held the first White House Conference on Aging in January of 1961, in which the creation of a program of health care for social security beneficiaries was proposed.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States)#Program_history

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
11. Hell I'd be tempted to vote for an Eisenhower these days -- at least he had integrity
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:50 AM
Apr 2016

if you overlook a few foreign adventures such as Iran

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
3. Moderate? As I understand it from BS supporters, she's to the right of Henry Kissinger, ...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:09 AM
Apr 2016

... more dishonest than Richard Nixon, and has a greater blood lust than Pol Pot. We're now calling her a moderate Republican?

 

The Far Left

(59 posts)
12. Jefferson supported free upper level education
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:45 PM
Apr 2016

Jefferson's views might be to the left of today's voters.

In my view, any society without universal access to upper level education risks becoming autocratic, or a colony of another State, or simply a failed State.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/free-higher-education-is_b_4995667.html

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
8. There's nothing "moderate" about a vote for IRW,
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:19 AM
Apr 2016

an illegal invasion of sovereign nation, resulting in killing and maiming and displacement of millions of human beings.
She was no "moderate" in her advocacy for bombing in Libya, which turned a secular nation with highest HDI in Africa into an ISIS stronghold, pushing terrorists to Europe's doorstep.
And her position on Syria is by no means "moderate" -setting up No-fly zone is the most radical you could do at this point, for it could trigger an all-out war with Russia. Obama has abtained from it, and he hasn't let Turkey have it -thank goodness.
It is far beyond off-the-rail to be taking advice from Henry Kissenger on any foreign policy matter. And perhaps the most erratic thing you could do is to provide arms and military intelligence to Saudi Arabia, which she's already done, making her complicit in the destruction of Yemen that is ongoing right now.
I see only one moderate and sane choice in the democratic- and republican race combined.
She's no moderate.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
13. And yet her Senate voting record is 93% the same as Sanders
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:47 PM
Apr 2016

and she was ranked the 11th most liberal senator during her years in office. But I suppose measurable metrics are less convincing than somebody's say so.

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
14. Goldman Sachs is betting pretty heavy she'll screw us all ...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:53 PM
Apr 2016

you seriously think she cares about your vote as much as she cares about the millions of blood money she's extracted (via Wall Street) from the blood, sweat, and tears of working-class and poor Americans?

She will do whatever benefits the 1%, which she has worked tirelessly through whatever ethically-challenged means necesaasry to join the ranks of. She got hers... and then some. The rest of us are fucked.

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