No wonder Bernie is getting clobbered.

[arely staircase]

His peeps jump a new shark almost daily as victory gets less and less possible. The money throwing thing is hilarious.

[Goblinmonger]

1. I know. The "she's not speaking at the Vatican" followed by

"she's not meeting the Pope" followed by "she ambushed the Pope to force a meeting" is just so Fonzi jumping a shark.

Oh, wait, nevermind.

[PeaceNikki]

2. Here's how I put it

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=52898

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. Throwing money is an old protest tactic dating back to the '60s.

It has everything to do with protesting greed and excessive wealth and nothing to do with strippers or prostitutes, although there are some who are eager to yell "sexism!" at pretty much everything. In 1967 Abbie Hoffman and others tossed dollar bills onto the floor of the New York Stock Exchange in an act of guerilla theatre. I'm quite sure that's what was going on this time. http://money.cnn.com/2007/07/17/news/funny/abbie_hoffman/index.htm?postversion=2007082314

[WhiteTara]

5. "onto the floor of the New York Stock Exchange"

not at any one stock broker. And funny this wasn't directed at Obama when he raised millions of dollars in 2008 or 2012. Just saying

[JonLeibowitz]

22. What about Sepp Blatter?

[jmg257]

35. You do realize Obama hasn't been identified as being a corporate whore? Even by his own supporters?

Just saying.

[all american girl]

57. Yep, only the woman is one. n/t

[jmg257]

58. Agree - well at least recently identified as one.

Edit : If you think Obama is a corporate whore, you could add that to the discussion.

[all american girl]

59. I don't think either are.

Unfortunately, this is how it's done until we can make real changes. I don't like it either.

[CentralCoaster]

61. To be honest, this was mild.

Another decade or two of this direction and it will be pitchforks and torches.

[whatchamacallit]

4. Clobbered my ass

[wendylaroux]

6. whatever gets you through the day sparky.

oh, and your candidate is corrupt.

[brush]

7. But winning.

[wendylaroux]

15. lol,winning what? what will it do for you? or your kids,or their kids? such a pity.

[brush]

37. Such a pity, huh? Try reading this about Sanders then tell me if you feel the same way about . . .

his campaign.

https://medium.com/@robinalperstein/on-becoming-anti-bernie-ee87943ae699#.c2hx0ru3u

[wendylaroux]

72. Surprise! Author of viral ‘Becoming Anti-Bernie’ piece is corporate lawyer who defends hedge funds

and she is a liar.

more here"

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/surprise-author-of-viral-becoming-anti-bernie-piece-is-corporate-lawyer-who-defends-hedge-funds/

[Fantastic Anarchist]

38. It's like a football game to them.

Not about actual issues that will affect them and their families.

[arcane1]

47. Bush won too. Winning isn't a guaranteed sign of quality.

[mmonk]

8. Yes, let them eat cake. Stupid peasants.

[uponit7771]

10. "peasants" don't throw money at cars... that's the 1% doing shit like that

[mmonk]

17. The dollar is similar to the widow's mite.

Unlike the rich and powerful sipping the champagne at the event.

[jmg257]

68. A WHOLE dollar???

[ChisolmTrailDem]

9. Wall Street throws money at her too...

vimeo.com/163178551

[arely staircase]

14. which is the point the Sanders people were trying to make

But totally fucked it up.

[DCBob]

11. The money throwing was really dumb.

Not sure what "genius" came up with that one.

[Armstead]

18. Young protesters...BFD

I suppose they should have sent out a press release expressing mild discomfort with our corrupt campaign system that would have been promptly ignored.

[DCBob]

31. Sure but this stunt clearly backfired on what was intended.

It wasn't well thought out.

[Armstead]

33. I prefer a campaign that involves actual human beings -- not just slick processed Velveeta

[DCBob]

34. I prefer organized, intelligent, with a laser focus on winning campaigning.

Which is what the Hillary team does very well and which is what we will need to defeat the Republicans.

[Armstead]

39. The inept sanders campaign went from zero recognition to around 40 percent against the...

"laser focused" Corporate Clinton Machine.

Win or lose, that is both impressive....and should be a wake up call to the Democratic Party if it wants to avoid sliding further into irrelevance and decay.

[DCBob]

45. I will admit Sanders has done much better that I had ever imagined.

I would not call Sanders campaign inept but clearly not at the same level as the Clinton's.

This is the year of the insurgent and anti-establishment candidate. The Hillary team was able to fight that off even with all the negative news about the stupid email server thing and constant bashing from both the left and the right.. it is amazing she and her team are now poised to the take the nomination and the White House.

However, I agree what Bernie has done should not be ignored or dismissed. Clearly this represents the future of the party given how many young people he attracted to his message. I hope there is some way we can integrate Bernie's message into the platform to keep most of his followers still interested in being Democrats. That may be a challenge but it needs to be done.

[AgingAmerican]

70. He has been steadily gaining and she has been steadily losing ground

since last Spring. Indeed not on the level of Clinton's.

[beedle]

52. When was the last time you were had an interaction wtih a stripper?

Did you throw $1 bills at her? What year was it when this happened?

The Millennials are probably wondering what the fuck are they talking about? Throwing $1 bills is somehow related to strippers? Since when? Oh, the 19, fucking 80's ... so why did the Hillary campaign, consisting almost entirely of people from the 1980's or before, send out that mailer asking people to throw $1 bills at her if $1 Bills are so damned 'sexist'?

All this exposes is that as usual, Clinton supporters are not only completely unaware of the electorit as it consists in 2016 (and beyond) but also completely self-unaware ... they ask to have $1 bills thrown at Hillary, then whine about sexism when it happens.

What next? Bernie will comment on his broad support, and Hillary fans will call him sexist because he called his supporters a bunch of 'broads'?

Welcome to the 21st century DINOs. 1980's memes are so .. well ... 1980's.

[DCBob]

54. Insulting fellow Democrats with the "DINO" crap is not going to get you anywhere.

The issue with money throwing is simply the optics.. many, if not most, did not get it. It just looked crass, vulgar and nasty.

Welcome to politics in the big leagues.. you are not in Vermont anymore.

[beedle]

55. I repeat ... when was the last time you interacted with a stripper?

Did you throw $1 bills at her? Did anyone? What year was it? Would a person born in the mid 80's, brought up on the Internet understand your reference to $1 bills, or would they think .. what's that old fool talking about ... there's no relationship to $1 bills and strippers, where did they get that dumb idea?

[DCBob]

56. This has nothing to do with me..

The optics were bad... end of story.

[MoonRiver]

12. It was a really stupid stunt, and demonstrated how juvenile the bunch of them are,

even 74 year old Bernie.

[MoonRiver]

44. Completely agree, Jackie!

[Armstead]

13. He's not getting 'clobbered"...Even if he loses it's been a very tight and competitive race

If you're going to criticize, at least have one foot in reality please.

[arely staircase]

16. He doesn't have a prayer of winning the nomination

Stick a fork in him

[ChisolmTrailDem]

19. You support this --->

vimeo.com/163178551

[Armstead]

24. He might lose....But he's gotten around 40 percent of the vote...

Considering that he started from scratch against her Royal Highness's planned coronation by the Democrat Corporate Establishment, that's pretty goddamn good.

It also expressed that a lot of the Democrats support him and what he stands for, and are not happy with Queen Hillary.

[arely staircase]

26. Correct. He has gotten his ass kicked. Around 40 percent is an ass kicking.NT

[Armstead]

30. Whatever...I am glad you are so concerned with nuance and larger meanings of things

That sounds like a well known coke fueled celebrity



http://www.bankrollmob.com/

[arely staircase]

65. A delusional cokehead would think 39 percent in a two way race is a win

win win.

[TCJ70]

36. Yeah, I don't know what the victory lap is about...

...40% is a great run considering he wasn't supposed to win anything but his own state and not break 5%.

Wake up Hillary folks...a good number of your fellow Democrats are on board with him.

[brush]

40. 60% to 40% in a political race is and has always been called a landslide.

[TCJ70]

41. I guess I don't know the standard...

...if you're closer to 50% than not I find it hard to consider it a landslide.

[KingFlorez]

20. Frustration leads to silly stunts

When one is losing all that is left to do is lash out.

[Armstead]

25. Frustration with the candidate who is the epitome of a corrupt system....

Yeah that is FUCKING JUSTIFIED by anyone who gives a shit about the downward slide of the working class and the ascendancy of the oligarchs.

But you wouldn't care a fig about that, it seems, by your dismissive tone.

[brush]

42. Cool it with the hyperbole and read this about Sanders then see if you feel the same way.

https://medium.com/@robinalperstein/on-becoming-anti-bernie-ee87943ae699#.c2hx0ru3u

[Armstead]

46. I've done my own research and have been familiar with Sanders for 20 years

I could counter most of that article but I haven't the time....However I will say (and also in reference to my "hyperbole&quot is that the Clinton campaign and the corrupt establishment it represents want to once again obscure the forest for the trees.

We are reaching a point (if we haven't already) where real solutions to real problems become impossible because the government has been wholly bought and paid for by the Wealthy and Powerful --and the public interest and needs of average people and the disadvantaged have been shut out.

It's called a Oligarchy...It's called Corporate State....and it will not lead to anything good if allowed to continue without a political counterbalance.

[brush]

48. If you haven't the time how do you know what counters what?

[Armstead]

50. I read it....

There are some things that are factually accurate (or at least debatable) others that are dead wrong....But overall it misses the point.

[Orsino]

21. It was a deliberate insult to Clinton...

...to throw such small amounts of money her way.

[Armstead]

27. They should have sent it in to the bundlers

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

49. Bundles of $2700 are hard to throw, and bundles of $353,000 are impossible.

[Buzz Clik]

28. Strange optics at best.

Clownish, for sure.

[indigoth]

29. "clobbered"

LOL

Yeah, right.

While he MAY lose in the end, he's hardly getting "clobbered".

[angrychair]

32. Great candidate

Go ahead and make excuses for this and make sure to sound like an elitist prick when you do.

Clinton stated that a 12 year old child wanted to get raped.

There is no amount of excuses for anyone, criminal defense lawyer or not, doing what she did.

Clinton's own words:
“I have been informed that the complainant is emotionally unstable with a tendency to seek out older men and engage in fantasizing,” Clinton, then named Hillary D. Rodham, wrote in the affidavit (my input: remember, a 12-year old child). “I have also been informed that she has in the past made false accusations about persons, claiming they had attacked her body. Also that she exhibits an unusual stubbornness and temper when she does not get her way.”

That is who you want to vote for???
I will leave you with the description of the attack she choose to defend in this manner.
What happened to that little girl:
"In her interview with The Daily Beast, she recounted the details of her attack in 1975 at age 12 and the consequences it had for both her childhood and adult life. A virgin before the assault, she spent five days afterwards in a coma, months recovering from the beating that accompanied the rape, and over 10 years in therapy. The doctors told her she would probably never be able to have children."

[Doctor_J]

51. Strange that DU's feminists are on board with victim shaming as long as Hillary's doing the shaming

Hopefully if Mrs. Clinton gets the nomination, she can motivate enough pro-rapists to win the GE.

[Blue_Adept]

43. I just rolled my eyes at the whole thing

But that's pretty much how I've felt about many of the stunts this season.

[Blue_In_AK]

53. Clobbered ?

Really? I'd say he's doing pretty darn good considering how far down he was when this all started.

[pressbox69]

60. Bernie is okay but...

I wouldn't trust him with his finger on the remote control button.

[redstateblues]

62. Does Bernie have another Hail Mary ambush up his sleeve?

The last one didn't move the needle

[smiley]

63. I just donated to his camp again.

Thanks for the reminder.

[arely staircase]

66. You can give him all of your money.

Result will be the same.

[smiley]

67. You can try to crush my spirit all you want.

Results will be the same.

[BreakfastClub]

64. It's sad, but some people can only learn by making mistakes for themselves. You

can't help them or save them from themselves.

[Arkana]

69. It doesn't make it true if you say it more, guys.

Sorry to be the one to tell you.

[Vinca]

71. You think Bernie is getting clobbered???

Most famous woman in the world vs. unknown 74 year old Senator from Vermont . . . and it's this close? Hillary should have put this away months ago.